OMFG!!! 16 Hour Maintanance window!!!

[Righ]

Every time I see an elf hunter I just groan.  I just wish I could speak to offer some sort of sarcastic put down that might enter into their mind just how unorginal and homogenous their entire breed is.

/em thinks that night elf hunters are more populous than cockroaches, and less useful to the environment.

That's right, you can tell the Alliance anything you like with just an /em prefix. Last night I had another elf spit on me in Booty Bay, so I just typed:

/em is shocked at how small elf penises are.

The elf responded with a bunch of gibberish in (common). I laughed at it.

[Calantus]

To be honest it's gotten to where I kick elf hunters from a party at the drop of a hat. They bring nothing I can't get elsewhere, they can be completely dropped without replacement and the group not feel too much pain from it, and they don't understand the words "I SAID WARRIOR PULLS RETARD". It's amazing how different dwarf and elf hunters are on the majority, really.

I'm so sick of saying "NO" when I see the dumbfuck elf hunter run up and mark a guy he's decided to shoot. As if he gets to decide the fucking target, and he gets to be the special boy that doesn't have to focus fire. Not to mention that if I didn't say "NO" they'd usually follow it up by pulling too. Usually if that happens when I'm a paladin I don't heal them, then tell them that I'm not making extra work for myself just because they're special. Then I kick their dead ass out of the group.

Elf rogues are almost as bad, but they actually do something useful when they aren't retards.

Also, the next druid (elf, of course) who expects the (retribution specced) paladin to play main healer gets an insta-kick. Insta. You can be a cat/bear for a little while if you must, but you better be purple by the time someone needs healing.

/end tangent

[Righ]

Sounds like you've met hunters that haven't learned the class. Let them pull. They probably don't know how to lose aggro. It's the least of your problems. When they cannot control pets or running mobs in a crowded area, that's when you'll feel the special hate that is reserved for the most jackass hunters.

Anyhow, you brought it on yourself by playing Alliance. I only envy you not having to hear "roleplaying" trolls.

[Calantus]

I always get the warrior to pull if he has a ranged weapon (ie. he's not a complete retard) unless I know the other person pulling. I'd much rather a rogue sapping to pull early on, but you can't always rely on them not to be fucktards (the next time I have to remind a rogue he has distract the 2nd time he fails to sneak up, knees will be broken). It's much easier to have the warrior pull in an emergency pickup because there's less ways for him to stuff it up (never once seen a hunter pull effectively... never. I don't think the players have it in them).

I actually don't mind too much most of the time, I rarely have flat-out bad pickups and when I do I leave. I just get annoyed that most places I have to do with 3-4 people because I either cbf'd getting randoms or I have to kick a retard or 2. Plus I had a simply horrid group go throgh gnomeregan just before that post. Worst part is that I had gotten the only thing I came there for (Manual Crowd Pummeler) early on (I took them the back way, 'cause I didn't trust them not to wipe and quit... which they didn't thanks only to the warlock and his soul gemming of the priest) and it would have been classless to leave them after that. Plus my warrior was the only tank if you don't count the hunter's cat. Which I don't.

Incidently I have to agree with those in another thread that recommended I stick with bandaids, they are definately quite useful.

[ahoythematey]

Actually, the custom /emote function displays as some canned responce to the enemy side, something like "Whatshisname makes a series of stranges gestures."

[Dren]

Heh, I'm surprised how many people didn't know about /em.

I used it the other day when I had to put up with a Horde Rogue killing  a low lvl (I mean really low, like lvl 10 area) Quest NPC over and over.  I couldn't hand in my quest for the new toon I was rolling.

When he appeared and did it again, I emoted "You are a joke."

That made him stop.....well maybe it was the lvl ?? alliance guy that was now waiting for him to appear again after I told him he was there.

Naw, it had to be my witty insult.

[DarkDryad]

Sounds like you've met hunters that haven't learned the class. Let them pull. They probably don't know how to lose aggro. It's the least of your problems. When they cannot control pets or running mobs in a crowded area, that's when you'll feel the special hate that is reserved for the most jackass hunters.

Anyhow, you brought it on yourself by playing Alliance. I only envy you not having to hear "roleplaying" trolls.

Exactly! I aint ashamed to admit I have a DE Hunter BUT I know how to play one. Pets NEVAR are out when going into populated areas, Hunters are ranged support chars, and  marking shouldnt be done untill the critter is pulled and engaged if then.. depends on critter lvl and stuff.
Try not to down a whole race/class because most people who play them are tards k.

[Calantus]

Yeah I know. That's why I said I kick at the drop of a hat, instead of not letting them join at all. :P

[Paelos]

I was doing the Tides quest in Stranglethorn and I decided to try and do it solo. When I got there, three other guys were trying to do it, and they invited me. I joined thinking it would be quicker. Then I realized these chuckleheads had no breathing potions and were constantly dying trying to get to the bottom. I got to the mob, activated it, literally barely killed it on my own while yelling at them to help me, and told them to come loot it. One of them bitched about me killing the mob while he was dead, which he had already done three times in my 10 minutes there.

I just disbanded and walked away as they shouted at me for not helping. No words, no rage, i let my boots do the talking.

[MrHat]

I was in SM a while back w/ my rogue.

The group was rogue/mage/priest/warrior/hunter.

If you've ever been in the Scarlet Monestary you know that most pull are three humanoids.

How we did it was we had the hunter mark one of them.  This would let us all know which one would be the one to be attacked.  Then I would sneak up and sap.  When I sapped (didn't have improved yet) I would come out of stealth and have 2 humanoids beat on me -- not good for a rogue.  Well, the warrior would already be taunting the marked one and the mage polymorphing the remainder.

It made very short work of SM.

Granted, every hunter I've grouped with since hasn't been as useful, but I'm just saying, the potential is there.

[Calantus]

Again, yeah, I do know the potential is there. But I now require a hunter to prove himself to me before he can even think of pulling or having an independant thought. A few times I've joined up with a group of 4 friends who lack a tank, and both their hunters (NE - they're all NE) are pretty good (they also showed me the joy of frost traps). Doesn't mean I'll let some random hunter think he can pull though.

I'm also getting to the point where I'm very short on paladins too. It seems that roughly 1/2 of all paladins seem to think they are invincible, or have no idea what being a team member means or their roll in it. Last week I had to tell a paladin to heal himself 3 times because the fool was flashing red and I prefer not to heal fellow paladins unless they need it in a non-self-inflicted kind of way. And I'm always telling paladins to get back.

Rogues are creeping up on the list too. They think stealth + high damage means they are uber or something.

Most other classes are surprisingly good almost all the time. Though that only leaves warriors, priests, mages, and druids (while I bitched about them before, on further reflection it was just 1 or 2 colouring my view).

[AcidCat]

Every time I see an elf hunter I just groan.  I just wish I could speak to offer some sort of sarcastic put down that might enter into their mind just how unorginal and homogenous their entire breed is.  

Really though, if someone wants to be NE Hunter, should they not play what they want simply because it's popular?

Eh, the whole race elitism thing is tired. I've never noticed people playing any given race to be any better or worse on average than any other race.

[Paelos]

I'm a warrior, I've saved people's asses with my instas more than once. Especially my challenging shout/retaliation combo. Get all the mobs on me and get auto hits for 15 secs. Couple that with my beserker whirlwind and if anybody in my group still goes down, I walk.

[DarkDryad]

Meh I just took NE for the dex  and quickness plusses. Id just assume be a human or other hunter but they dont get the good bonuses for hunter NE get.

[Threash]

Night elf is the obvious choice for rogues, they get higher base agi (granted at high levels this means very little), they get a bonus to dodge and stealth which is like 2 free talents for rogues.  I don't see the appeal of night elf hunters though, none of their bonus really help them out at all and dwarves get +5 to guns which is at least mildly helpfull.

[Rasix]

Dirty, dirty elf lovers.

Really though, if someone wants to be NE Hunter, should they not play what they want simply because it's popular?

Of they should play what they want. When anyone asks me what they should play or what "the group needs", I just tell them to do what they want.  Of course, if they wanted to be an elf and group with me on a consistent basis, I'd tell them to find another race (of course, I'd never be alliance in a million years, so it's a moot point).  Really, racial stats mean crap in this game.  So you can either pick the effeminate, pointy eared, blue, anime inspired poopsters or you can pick a dwarf (they've got a gun bonus).

Just take a mental journey with me here.  You're 15, you like to draw ligers, swords, and cool Doom 3 inspired art in your notebook during freshman english.  You've been on IM since you were 10, so your typing resembles something that most intelligent people would need a ring from a cracker jack box to decode.  You love anime, it's TEH COOLEST.  And you just saw those Lord of the Rings movies; they should really make a some books based on that, or perhaps even a manga! And OMG, the guys that made Diablo 2, just made a game where you can be an ELF online.  But what's cooler than being an elf, being an elf with a gun! And a pet tiger!  RAWRRRR.

All, yes, the NE alliance hunter.  I'm just glad I can't hear them speak.

Just for reference, I really never group with hunters.  Being a shaman/shaman/mage team, all we want are meatshield and maybe another healer.  Plus we don't want people rolling on mail :)

[WayAbvPar]

Just take a mental journey with me here. You're 15, you like to draw ligers, swords, and cool Doom 3 inspired art in your notebook during freshman english. You've been on IM since you were 10, so your typing resembles something that most intelligent people would need a ring from a cracker jack box to decode. You love anime, it's TEH COOLEST. And you just saw those Lord of the Rings movies; they should really make a some books based on that, or perhaps even a manga! And OMG, the guys that made Diablo 2, just made a game where you can be an ELF online. But what's cooler than being an elf, being an elf with a gun! And a pet tiger! RAWRRRR.

Add in a few extremely disparaging remarks about Drizz't, and this is art.

[Jayce]

You're 15, you like to draw ligers, swords, and cool Doom 3 inspired art in your notebook during freshman english.  

[Signe]

No one will every take you seriously if you have floppy ears.

[DarkDryad]

The dodge bonus comes in quite handy when using a bow  as the critter is usually in your ass after the 4th ot 5th hit and at low levels no hit = good. Ill probably roll up a dwarf later on but Im just poking around learning the game. Hell how many different versions of Dark Dryad did I have in CoH like 5 hehe

[MrHat]

Speaking of the 16 hour downtime,

The jones is strong in this one.

Edit: I'm going to make truffles!

[Delf]

Earthen ring was up for a while, but laggy as hell if you did anything that touches an item. Much worse than I've experienced in the past few weeks. And then I tried to skin a boar and got booted back to an unending "downloading character info" screen.

Screw it, I'm going to go to work.

[AcidCat]

No one will every take you seriously if you have floppy ears.

You may laugh at my floppy ears, but you will fear my Angry Sea Cow form!!!

[Signe]

You don't scare me.  I had sea cow on a stick for tea today.

[MrHat]

Point - Signe.

[AcidCat]

That unfortunate sea cow obviously just wasn't angry enough.

Someday I'll actually kill someone in Angry Sea Cow form ... then ... then you'll understand the horror.

Actually, I think that's my new goal. How embarrasing would it be to be killed by a berserk manatee? Maybe as embarrasing as the time that Troll killed me with a fishing rod?

[Paelos]

Signe adds a healthy level of insanity to my day. I appreciate that.

[SurfD]

Maybe as embarrasing as the time that Troll killed me with a fishing rod?

Dont diss that fishing rod man, have you seen the stats on that thing!

[MrHat]

Haha, ya, I've been using that fishing pole since L27.  Got it off the AH for like 60s, no one ever searches for fishing poles.

I've only ever killed 4 guys with it, but was crazy funny.

[Sky]

The hunter should /always/ be pulling. I don't know what kind of hunters you folks have been dealing with, if they can't pull or control their pets. That's like a priest who can't heal properly.

I don't play that weakass alliance crap, though. Orc hunter all the way.

[Sable Blaze]

Hunters are dps and pets are chew toys in instances. Considering the problems warriors tend to have with rage generation and the problems healing aggro cause, they need to learn some self-discipline in instances unless they want to consistantly be a greasespot on the dungeon floor.

I grew tired of fighitng morons for aggro in my mid-20s. If you insist on being an idiot about it, you'll get what you deserve: repair costs. XP groups are one thing, most classes are tough enough to take some hits. In instances there's not nearly so much room for this sort of foolishness.

[Fargull]

Warriors bloom late.  My prime is a 39th Troll Warrior on Spinebreaker.  I found in the teens and through the 20's that holding Aggro was a pain and the ass.  Hell, the whole class plays different than any other tank class I have played.  Now I can control aggro and the only class I have any issues in pulling aggro from (when and if I need too... ) is the shaman.  Of course, if I am going to let another class absorb some of the damage it will be the shaman, even if they are the primary healer in addition.  Of course, I group with 4-7 individuals on a constant basis, so we have become a good fighting unit, mainly from the PvP.  As of now, I have zero complaints with the PvP system that Blizzard has in place, though it is lacking a motivation outside of questing in contested areas.

[chinslim]

Hunters are dps and pets are chew toys in instances.

Not necessarily.  I play a priest in a regular group of 5 with a hunter and shaman as our tanks.  Hunter pets have AC somewhere between mail and leather, and can decently hold an add as long as I pay attention to its health.  A hunter pet holding aggro is still better than me getting aggro!

[Pineapple]

Not necessarily.  I play a priest in a regular group of 5 with a hunter and shaman as our tanks.  Hunter pets have AC somewhere between mail and leather, and can decently hold an add as long as I pay attention to its health.  A hunter pet holding aggro is still better than me getting aggro!

My pet is boosted in it's hp and AC.

It regularly out taunts the tanks, and tanks better then most tanks.

I can heal it, and it can hold adds if we get jumped by any.

Think of hunters as a tank creature with a pet archer/healer that can pretty much take care of itself. Oh and it can boost the range power of anything attacking the target. Oh and the archer/healer "pet" can melee pretty good too. Still dont want one in your group?

[El Gallo]

A lot of hunters are used to near-invincible solo play and don't want to learn how to be good group members.  Think Everquest necromancers.  A well-played grouping necromancer was an amazing asset to the group.  However, most pick up necros you got thought "grouping" meant "I solo stuff next to you guys" at best and "I DoT mezzed mobs at will" at worst.

Almost anyone can out-taunt a warrior, that is what makes the warrior class worth playing and group play something more than a trivial exercize in "everyone go full burn every pull."  Aggro control is a group effort.  One tard can mess up the whole thing.