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Reply #70 on: January 15, 2010, 10:35:32 AM

Too much on the line -- more than these two people -- for this to be anything resembling ethical if it's all a ploy to improve ratings.

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Reply #71 on: January 15, 2010, 10:54:35 AM

Then it's an epic conspiracy...

Jimmy Kimmel on Leno was awesome. I don't believe Jimmy Kimmel will ever appear on Leno again.


[Asked by Leno what the best prank he ever pulled was] "The best prank I ever pulled was I told a guy that—five years from now—I'm gonna give you my show. And then when the five years came, I gave it to him, and then I took it back almost instantly."

[Asked by Leno if he ever orders anything off of the TV] "Like NBC ordered your show off the TV?"

[Asked by Leno what the record is for number of lap dances he's received in one night] "Strippers, I don't like in general. Because you have this phony relationship with them for money, similar to that of when you and Conan were on The Tonight Show together, passing the torch... you know what I'm saying."

[Asked by Leno what he hasn't yet hosted, but would like to] "Oh, this is a trick, right? Where you get me to host The Tonight Show and then take it back from me?"

[Asked why he came on to do the segment] "Listen, Jay, Conan and I have children—all you have to take care of is cars. I mean, we have lives to lead here. You've got $800 million, for God's sakes—leave our shows alone."
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Reply #72 on: January 15, 2010, 11:09:15 AM

Hahaha, the Daily Show Jon Olivar spoof is awesome.

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Reply #73 on: January 15, 2010, 11:12:55 AM

Jesus christ, I couldn't even watch that whole kimmel question segment. Don't get me wrong I dislike jay a lot now because of this but sometimes jimmy is just brutal.

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Reply #74 on: January 15, 2010, 11:28:12 AM

But he's right.

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Reply #75 on: January 15, 2010, 11:37:40 AM

ok, just watched the whole kimmel segment, all of it accurate but oh god, savage.  This needs to be recorded to show people how you brutalize someone through public speaking.

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Reply #76 on: January 15, 2010, 11:56:05 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34880947/ns/entertainment-access_hollywood/

more more more!

NBC is solely responsible for this clusterfuck - Conan really needs to nail them on this and shut the door. I guess my only remaining questions is: if Leno was so great, why did his show at 10 self destruct and take with it all the shows around it? Oh that's right... its Conan's fault.

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Reply #77 on: January 15, 2010, 03:43:50 PM

ok, just watched the whole kimmel segment, all of it accurate but oh god, savage.  This needs to be recorded to show people how you brutalize someone through public speaking.
This is the segment, for the people who don't feel like digging. It was brutal and delicious.

Edit: Oh, you probably mean the one on HIS show. Sorry. That clip is still brutal. And delicious. You can watch the others on the same youtube channel.
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Reply #78 on: January 15, 2010, 06:06:18 PM

It's all done now, though, right?  $30M and Conan disappears.  I already forgot who he is.

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Reply #79 on: January 15, 2010, 06:30:44 PM

In all honesty, I think the last Tonight Show I watched was the Carson's goodbye. I suspect this dispute in public is a lot more entertaining than any of these shows are.

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Reply #80 on: January 15, 2010, 06:45:01 PM


This clip contains content from Jimmy Kimmel live, who has decided to block it in your country.

Fuck sake.

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Reply #81 on: January 15, 2010, 09:35:15 PM


This clip contains content from Jimmy Kimmel live, who has decided to block it in your country.

Fuck sake.

It's Conan's fault.

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Reply #82 on: January 16, 2010, 12:00:33 PM

Well, balls a-plenty from Kimmell there. He didn't back off one whit as the awkwardness increased.
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Reply #83 on: January 17, 2010, 05:19:28 AM

After dating Silverman for years, I don't think anything really fazes him anymore.

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Reply #84 on: January 17, 2010, 09:36:15 AM


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Reply #85 on: January 17, 2010, 04:34:35 PM

I've always enjoyed Ferguson as a funny guy but his classy criticism of Limbaugh increased my esteem for him.

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Reply #86 on: January 17, 2010, 05:20:29 PM

I can't believe this was totally not planned at all!!!  awesome, for real

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Reply #87 on: January 17, 2010, 05:24:54 PM

So it's looking like Conan gets 40 mil and can go work for anyone right away.
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Reply #88 on: January 17, 2010, 08:33:49 PM

I've always enjoyed Ferguson as a funny guy but his classy criticism of Limbaugh increased my esteem for him.

He's easily the best of the late night guys, IMO.
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Reply #89 on: January 18, 2010, 01:41:48 AM

So it's looking like Conan gets 40 mil and can go work for anyone right away.

He gets the full payout only if he is out of a job for 2.5 years (the time left on his contract). If he gets a new show on another network, they can stop paying him.

A pretty insightful analysis of the situation from Mark Evanier:
http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2010_01_17.html#018381
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Reply #90 on: January 19, 2010, 09:48:48 AM

I'd read that if he gets another job, NBC continues to pay him minus whatever the new paycheck is until the contract expires.


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Reply #91 on: January 20, 2010, 01:22:26 AM

The most accurate and understandable explanation of the whole Conan/Leno late night mess you can ever find on the interwebs!

I believe the turning point of the whole mess was when Hulkconan fought back against the Superchin-Leno and Letterman used the folding chair on Captain NBC....

PS: Is that supposed to be Kimmel launching meatballs at the end?
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Reply #92 on: January 22, 2010, 02:51:24 PM

The most accurate and understandable explanation of the whole Conan/Leno late night mess you can ever find on the interwebs!

I believe the turning point of the whole mess was when Hulkconan fought back against the Superchin-Leno and Letterman used the folding chair on Captain NBC....

PS: Is that supposed to be Kimmel launching meatballs at the end?

Conan actually had this clip on his show this week. I've been watching this week because he's actually really funny at the moment. I think it's the atittude of "fuck it" he's giving off. He just seems to be going wild and not much caring about things like being called down to the boss's office if he crosses a line.

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Reply #93 on: January 22, 2010, 03:26:39 PM

The most accurate and understandable explanation of the whole Conan/Leno late night mess you can ever find on the interwebs!

I believe the turning point of the whole mess was when Hulkconan fought back against the Superchin-Leno and Letterman used the folding chair on Captain NBC....

PS: Is that supposed to be Kimmel launching meatballs at the end?

Conan actually had this clip on his show this week. I've been watching this week because he's actually really funny at the moment. I think it's the atittude of "fuck it" he's giving off. He just seems to be going wild and not much caring about things like being called down to the boss's office if he crosses a line.
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Reply #94 on: January 22, 2010, 03:33:46 PM

The most accurate and understandable explanation of the whole Conan/Leno late night mess you can ever find on the interwebs!

I believe the turning point of the whole mess was when Hulkconan fought back against the Superchin-Leno and Letterman used the folding chair on Captain NBC....

PS: Is that supposed to be Kimmel launching meatballs at the end?

Conan actually had this clip on his show this week. I've been watching this week because he's actually really funny at the moment. I think it's the atittude of "fuck it" he's giving off. He just seems to be going wild and not much caring about things like being called down to the boss's office if he crosses a line.

If he'd been like this for the last 7 months there wouldn't have even been a question of him staying and Leno going.  I now believe Conan was hosting the Tonight Show with too much reverence.  He was scared of tarnishing the image and so wasn't pushing the boundaries like he should have been from the start.

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Reply #95 on: January 22, 2010, 03:43:01 PM


Conan actually had this clip on his show this week. I've been watching this week because he's actually really funny at the moment. I think it's the atittude of "fuck it" he's giving off. He just seems to be going wild and not much caring about things like being called down to the boss's office if he crosses a line.
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If he'd been like this for the last 7 months there wouldn't have even been a question of him staying and Leno going.  I now believe Conan was hosting the Tonight Show with too much reverence.  He was scared of tarnishing the image and so wasn't pushing the boundaries like he should have been from the start.

I wonder how much of this was him and how much was NBC going "your antics were fine late at night, but this is the Tonight Show so you have to tone it down!"

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Reply #96 on: January 22, 2010, 09:58:04 PM

Well, I watched the final episode. It was pretty good though I wasn't expecting Conan to get serious and actually choke up during his little speech towards the end.

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Reply #97 on: January 22, 2010, 10:02:56 PM

Final episode didn't disappoint. He can work in 7 months and seems to be interested in keeping his current staff.  I wonder where he lands.  It seems like either Fox or cable.

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Highlights:
-Neil Young (who got super old when I wasn't looking)
-Beck standing off to the side playing like he was just part of the backup band during Will Ferrell's rendition of Free Bird
-Conan's final speech
-Jimmy Fallon singing "It's So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday" with the Roots' backup actually making him sound good
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Reply #98 on: January 23, 2010, 03:18:39 PM

Just the fact that the last ten minutes were dedicated to freebird, which fit the mood incredibly well...was awesome.

The entire last episode however was just solid, sure he choked up a little but didn't lose it. The comedy was spot on too....honestly if jay leno sucks for the next 7 months and they brought conan back, that would be awesome.

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Reply #99 on: January 23, 2010, 04:53:55 PM

I wonder how much of this was him and how much was NBC going "your antics were fine late at night, but this is the Tonight Show so you have to tone it down!"

I suspect the latter. As it was my dad stopped watching the Tonight Show, "cuz he just does weird stuff."
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Reply #100 on: January 24, 2010, 03:11:38 AM

Finally getting around to watching the last 2 episodes of Conan, amazing.
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Reply #101 on: January 24, 2010, 03:55:07 AM

aye great stuff indeed.  Freebird was a little long, though.
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Reply #102 on: January 24, 2010, 07:51:05 AM

Fuck you, Leno. Nothing you've ever done could possibly trump this.



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Reply #103 on: January 24, 2010, 07:51:24 AM

Oh, wait. This is the right one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FU2l-XU5cg


Edit: Still probably true, though.
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Reply #104 on: January 25, 2010, 12:57:58 PM

Okay. You know what? This has REALLY gone too far.

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By JOE QUEENAN

Cultural historians are desperately seeking a precedent to the Jay Leno-Conan O'Brien fiasco. They are looking in the wrong places. True, Pat Sajak, Chevy Chase and Joan Rivers all got axed from late-night talk shows after shockingly brief stints at the helm, but none of them got $32.5 million to take a hike. And none of them got replaced by the person they had replaced. And none of them pouted about getting canned for general incompetence while millions of their countrymen—who had not actually failed at their jobs—were unable to find work.

No, the most appropriate parallel to the debacle that has humiliated NBC took place in central Europe in the late 1930s. It happened at Munich.

Jay Leno, much like Adolf Hitler...

I stopped reading RIGHT THERE. I have absolutely no idea what the fuck the rest of the article says.

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