Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[Nightblade]

Wow, we got a whole other clan come play with us this afternoon. Essentially, they were so organized that if you weren't on their team, you got beat. Handily. Not complaining, since they did nothing wrong other than being organized. I suspect they are all on Vent or something, because battles that should last 20 minutes were lasting 10.

Yes, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a clan going to a random server and just beating randoms horribly.

No wait, that's actually called pubstomping (or clan stacking), and is very douche bag-ish behavior.

If these people are actually interested in having a real game, they'd divide up their clan between the two pub teams.

[schild]

No wait, that's actually called pubstomping (or clan stacking), and is very douche bag-ish behavior.

If these people are actually interested in having a real game, they'd divide up their clan between the two pub teams.

Pubstomping isn't douchebaggish behavior. Sure, it's a little annoying to the loser, but it's just a fact of online gaming - sometimes I like rolling into a pubbie game with one or two other people and just wrecking face. It happens. It makes the other team wish they were better and really, the demoralization in action is just amazing. Now, pubstomping and being a jerk about it is douchebaggish.

[Nightblade]

No wait, that's actually called pubstomping (or clan stacking), and is very douche bag-ish behavior.

If these people are actually interested in having a real game, they'd divide up their clan between the two pub teams.

Pubstomping isn't douchebaggish behavior. Sure, it's a little annoying to the loser, but it's just a fact of online gaming - sometimes I like rolling into a pubbie game with one or two other people and just wrecking face. It happens. It makes the other team wish they were better and really, the demoralization in action is just amazing. Now, pubstomping and being a jerk about it is douchebaggish.

You're talking about two or three people, maybe playing with a few friends for fun - he's talking about an entire clan just coming to some server to beat randoms who stand no chance against them. Suddenly the server empties out and they all wring their cheetos stained hands together, snickering at the spectacle... I made that last part up; but you get what I mean.

[Engels]

I presume that clans are simply meant to stay together on their own server, rather than going to another? Sorry, bit new to 'clan' ethics here. Oh, and schild, they were being douches about it. Lots 'cry more newb' comments. I didn't see that as anything out of the ordinary. Its is an FPS on the internet. Its like asking for racial sensitivity at a Klan rally.

I'm not sure of the status of hacks in this game either, but I saw some weird behavior by some players (zooming about at super fast speeds) that seemed a bit off...We may want to reconsider turning PB back on.

[Nightblade]

I presume that clans are simply meant to stay together on their own server, rather than going to another? Sorry, bit new to 'clan' ethics here. Oh, and schild, they were being douches about it. Lots 'cry more newb' comments. I didn't see that as anything out of the ordinary. Its is an FPS on the internet. Its like asking for racial sensitivity at a Klan rally.

I'm not sure of the status of hacks in this game either, but I saw some weird behavior by some players (zooming about at super fast speeds) that seemed a bit off...We may want to reconsider turning PB back on.

Its kind of hard to tell who's cheating and who's not in this game. Earlier today I watched a medic go 74/9. I was screwing around with an assault setup I never played; but never really seemed to die, even when I knifed him while he was sitting in a tight corner reloading. He mysteriously vanished after the game was over.

[squirrel]

Dunno what to say here. I am the 'other' in this argument, the useless pubbie who gets WTFPWNT. over and over again. I don't really have an issue with it either. I mean, it's not important. It's an FPS. I dunno, if a clan takes over the server and BBQs everyone, either kill em or leave. So far it's fun for me and I suck at it.

Caveat: I also play EVE.

[Engels]

Someone mentioned that sniping is easier on a PS3. Not to be a PC whiner, but are they mixing console and pc populations with a built in imbalance like that? I've had medics snipe me with an M40 when certain shot snipes of mine utterly missed. Or are the weapons one gets later on so much more powerful?

[tgr]

No wait, that's actually called pubstomping (or clan stacking), and is very douche bag-ish behavior.

If these people are actually interested in having a real game, they'd divide up their clan between the two pub teams.

Complaints about blobbing, in a PVP game? Unheard of.

[schild]

I presume that clans are simply meant to stay together on their own server, rather than going to another? Sorry, bit new to 'clan' ethics here. Oh, and schild, they were being douches about it. Lots 'cry more newb' comments. I didn't see that as anything out of the ordinary. Its is an FPS on the internet. Its like asking for racial sensitivity at a Klan rally.

"Cry more newb" is generally a response to crying. Don't like it, leave the server. Staying around, and getting beat up (and complaining about it) is just a dumb way to handle it.

[Azazel]

Yeah it's douchey, but as said - just leave the server and join another one. Easy fix, and also my solution to team-stacking.

[Xuri]

When do you think it will allow multiple game types in the rotation? I am sick to death of the 5 Conquest maps (especially the one where my retarded team always gets camped into its starting spot  ).

I've stopped playing conquest-maps altogether - I now play exclusively on servers using Rush-mode and all maps rotation, since I feel Rush fits the game better: Advance forward on enemy locations, defend until the buildings literally fall down on top of you, fall back to the next defensive locations, etc. :P

[Malakili]

When do you think it will allow multiple game types in the rotation? I am sick to death of the 5 Conquest maps (especially the one where my retarded team always gets camped into its starting spot  ).

I've stopped playing conquest-maps altogether - I now play exclusively on servers using Rush-mode and all maps rotation, since I feel Rush fits the game better: Advance forward on enemy locations, defend until the buildings literally fall down on top of you, fall back to the next defensive locations, etc. :P

I find myself liking Rush more too, which is the opposite of what I expected.  Battlefield is known for its bigger, chaotic maps, and I thought I would like that style here.  Unfortunately, it seems like people are just as happy to "ninja" around capping stuff behind enemy lines as they are to actually fight over stuff, and the game really shines in combat, which Rush seems to focus much more. 

[Modern Angel]

Same. I've always loved Conquest and the first time I played Rush I didn't "get it" but now I'm almost all Rush, all the time. It leads to some really, really intense fights sometimes. I was on a server with some friends where we had just a brutal, 15 minute long close quarters fight over a point. It was really intense.

[Engels]

Yeah it's douchey, but as said - just leave the server and join another one. Easy fix, and also my solution to team-stacking.

Well, this is what I ended up doing, of course. Sad to have to leave your own clan's server because its an unplayable mess.

[fuser]

I've been going back and adding more people to streaming admin list but it's really sucky way to admin it. Either you get the rcon password and have to use a 3rd party client to control the server. Or you get access with @commands which are only usable when the client is running on a dedicated pc.

[Malakili]

For a variety of reasons I dropped out of the clan I am in, so I'll be playing on Bat Country a lot more now instead of just occasionally like before.  I've put the f13 tag on, so I'm [f13] Zhenya

[WayAbvPar]

Was stuck on a team full of retard snipers yesterday. My entire squad was spawning on each other on Sniper Rock and just sitting their while our tickets bled. After encouraging them to move the fuck up and help at least 5 times, I kicked all of them 

As for the clan invading the server- I don't mind as long as they keep about equal numbers on each side. If they start stacking I am going to tell them to go start their own server, because I am not paying for them to be able to all play together and rape n00bs. Fuck that.

[fuser]

Patch out today v522174

[Jimbo]

You all griping about the M60 should really watch out for the XM8 LMG, it is a beast!

I still can't use the M1 Garanda, wish they would fix that!

Been fun on the server, any chance we can get reserved slots?

[taolurker]

Patch not going live today, it failed QA?

[fuser]

Been fun on the server, any chance we can get reserved slots?

Reserved slots are broken, if you setup one the server never uses it 

[HaemishM]

Treating DICE shooters like MMOG's is a good thing - i.e. wait 6 months to purchase it when they've unfucked the server software, the cheats have been mostly fixed, and the price has gone down.

Waltzing into a shooter that's been running 6 months is a great way to get curb stomped by the hardcore that will be the only player base remaining after such a time.

You say that like you think I expect NOT to be curbstomped in an FPS. It doesn't matter if it's day 1 or day 1000, I'm not that good. Hell, I didn't play BF2 until over 2 years after release and I'm STILL loving it when I play. Sucking is not a hindrance to my enjoyment.

[Malakili]

Sucking is not a hindrance to my enjoyment.

I wish I had this skill.

[Khaldun]

I picked it up, so let the suck commence.

[Nebu]

Sucking is not a hindrance to my enjoyment.

I agree with this 100% with regard to FPS.  As long as I can get a couple of kill shots and contribute to the scenario, I don't mind being the weakest link.  It always encourages me to practice more.

[Engels]

I tend to suck bad for the first few months of any twitch game. Then I get merely 'decent'. But I tell myself I am having a learning experience!

One thing I do like about BF2 is that with the engie, you can repair vehicles and feel marginally useful and with the sniper, you can be a spotter and also feel somewhat useful.

I'm not going to sweat my kill count till I have some levels and unlocks on me. It appears that many of these starter weapons aren't particularly powerful so I'm not going to be too hard on myself when I see I'm getting a 60% accuracy rating on my sniper shots, but only 1 or two kills.

[Nightblade]

I presume that clans are simply meant to stay together on their own server, rather than going to another? Sorry, bit new to 'clan' ethics here. Oh, and schild, they were being douches about it. Lots 'cry more newb' comments. I didn't see that as anything out of the ordinary. Its is an FPS on the internet. Its like asking for racial sensitivity at a Klan rally.

"Cry more newb" is generally a response to crying. Don't like it, leave the server. Staying around, and getting beat up (and complaining about it) is just a dumb way to handle it.

Of course you leave if you don't like it; that doesn't make it any less annoying. That's why servers die so quickly in this game; one side gets outnumbered, leaves; the winning side- losing its opposition also leaves.

Auto balance would go a long way; though it wouldn't have solved this particular brand of griefing.

[Malakili]

Auto balance would go a long way; though it wouldn't have solved this particular brand of griefing.

It probably would actually help a lot, as the losing team tends to have the quitters, and then there is a decent chance the clan will have some of its players auto switched.

[WayAbvPar]

Was stuck on a team full of retard snipers yesterday. My entire squad was spawning on each other on Sniper Rock and just sitting their while our tickets bled. After encouraging them to move the fuck up and help at least 5 times, I kicked all of them 

Update- had another squad full of fuckheads doing this again. This time I turned on friendly fire, warned them time after time, and then started dropping C4 in their laps, wandering away, and touching it off. Then repeated it again after they set up again. Eventually they got the message.

[Jimbo]

Update on Veteran:
They gave the M1 Garanda to my Xbox360 account!  Bastards!

So reserve slots and auto balance would be nice to have, plus like a little message that says, "don't quit yet, auto-balance after every match", would be nice.

The demo/beta didn't do the game justice, both PC & Xbox360 have great graphics, decent controls (I miss the wheel that says, spot, ammo, heal, & squad/commander interaction), the weapon unlocks are fun, battles are fast and furious, vehicles are great (I still can't fly!), & the same buggieness of DICE is out (servers, balance, etc...).

I don't understand why snipers think the should only camp, the pistol, c4, and all the other stuff they can do means they should be running and gunning with the rest of there squad.

[Pennilenko]

I play exclusively rush hardcore mode, until they fix the damage model or change it. I do check the bat country server first though to see how many of us are on there. I play there if there is more than one of us on. I really like this game and I seem to be an average player that really doesn't get affected by the steamroller clan groups. I also have no problem team killing the shit out some retards on my team to get the point across that they need to be more active.

[Strazos]

So apparently the shotgun attachment to assault rifles is not too bad. I seem to actually have better luck with it than the 40mm grenade launcher...and I like to tell myself it takes more skill to sneak up on people than just sit on ammo and spam nades.

[Nightblade]

So apparently the shotgun attachment to assault rifles is not too bad. I seem to actually have better luck with it than the 40mm grenade launcher...and I like to tell myself it takes more skill to sneak up on people than just sit on ammo and spam nades.

Speaking of shotguns, has anyone tried the Pump Action + Magnum Ammo + Slugs combo? It's great fun... when it feels like working.

When you sneak behind enemy lines, one shot kill three people and C4 a light tank; you're right as rain.

When you ambush some guy reloading, unload a shell point blank a crouching, stationary engineer; only to somehow miss and get knifed; you yell at your screen. Having to right click before firing really hampers the already limited application of shotguns.

[Azazel]

I don't understand why snipers think the should only camp, the pistol, c4, and all the other stuff they can do means they should be running and gunning with the rest of there squad.

Heh, I've been enjoying the hell out of the recon class lately, since I forgot about the sniper aspect completely:

Dense Map, Ghille suit, Semi-auto shotgun, extended mag, extra ammo, proximity detector and C4. Game on! 

[rrazcueta]

I sniped a helicopter pilot yesterday. I think I'm hooked.