Blizzard hates the large and in charge!

[Shockeye]

Yep, you read that right. Blizzard is anti-fat anti-big-boned. If you're 400lbs husky and want to wear a WoW T-shirt, you're SOL. Mythic, it seems, embraces their half-ton big & tall players while Blizzard shuns them.

View the sad tale here.

Today is a sad day to be a lard-ass person with a big heart.

[HaemishM]

That thread makes baby jesus plan the apocalypse.

[Paelos]

Wow, I mean wow.

4X shirts btw are about 13" larger in the chest than a Large (50"). Meaning I'd have to gain at least a foot in mass to wear one. Sorry, but that's not gonna be muscle chief. You're a fatass.

[HaemishM]

HULK WANT WoW T-SHIRT! RAARRARRARARAARAR!!!!!

[personman]

Ah yes, the second of the two last remaining socially acceptable forms of bigotry.

I'm going to get you back for linking that thread.  As soon as my IQ grows back.

[Shockeye]

Ah yes, the second of the two last remaining socially acceptable forms of bigotry.

I'm going to get you back for linking that thread.  As soon as my IQ grows back.

Look, I did my best to be politically correct in my post. I tried hard.

I'm still waiting for my IQ to come back after reading geldon's blog after his newest grief title.

No, I will not link you. I am not that bad of a person.

[Paelos]

Ah yes, the second of the two last remaining socially acceptable forms of bigotry.

I'm going to get you back for linking that thread.  As soon as my IQ grows back.

What's the other one? Hating Bush?

[personman]

Heh.  I'm not at all offended.

I was highly atheletic most of my life.  In my late twenties apnea and hypertension took me from 190lbs to around 250 (for my height and frame 190 was pretty slight). With medication and *very* controlled exercise I'm back to a healthier weight and I'll probably be back to my "ideal" weight in another year.

Why do I say all this?  Because the difference in how I was treated was simply breathtaking.  Even by close friends and family.  It was quite staggering to realize how insecure the great majority of us are that we need a screen to project upon.

I'm hardly a fan of PC.  But I'm real big on character and respect.  Pun intended. :)

What's the other one? Hating Bush?

Sexuality of course.  Hating Bush is a natural reaction, "hate" in its purest most constructive form: controlled anger to enhance an organism's immediate survival.

[Shockeye]

I was highly atheletic most of my life.  In my late twenties apnea and hypertension took me from 190lbs to around 250 (for my height and frame 190 was pretty slight). With medication and *very* controlled exercise I'm back to a healthier weight and I'll probably be back to my "ideal" weight in another year.

Been there, done that.

When I moved out to AZ from MN, I was at a svelte 175, but after getting married and raising two kids, I found myself tipping the scales at 280. It took a lot of work to get back down to 200 and I hope to be back to my less beefy 175 by summer, but we shall see.

If you need a 4X shirt, you're fat and you're getting called on it. If you need two seats on an airplane, you're fat and you're getting called on it.

[Paelos]

If you need a 4X shirt, you're fat and you're getting called on it. If you need two seats on an airplane, you're fat and you're getting called on it.

Agreed, this is not like saying, where are the XL's or why do your seats only fit Calista Flockhart. Needing any shirt above an XXL is warning sign to do something about your health. I would say in the general sense that I hear excuses from about 50% of the fat people I know about genetics or medical problems when the national average of people that are fat regardless of diet, exercise, or personal drive is much much lower.

In other words, you're not fat because mommy and daddy made you that way. The Freudian blame game isn't getting you thinner, take some responsibility for yourself. Hell, if I ever got up to 200 lbs (I'm 5'10") I would know that something was seriously wrong. It's markers like that which keep me focused.

[HaemishM]

Society treats fat people much differently than thin or "normal" people. Look at those shitty commercials for things like cortislim or other shit. "Are you a member of the unhappiest club in the world, the overweight?" If you have not seen that commercial, you should avail yourself of it, because it's demeaning and disgusting. Especially because it makes the implication that fat = unhappy.

I say this as someone who is a buck 25 soaking wet. A buck 30 with shoes on. I have big feet. But I married a "big girl" and she knows what it feels like to be constantly told you can't be fat and attractive.

Of course, 4XX isn't just fat, it's morbidly obese. It is fatty fat fat fat. It is Fatty McPorkSkins Fat.

[Shockeye]

I say this as someone who is a buck 25 soaking wet. A buck 30 with shoes on. I have big feet. But I married a "big girl" and she knows what it feels like to be constantly told you can't be fat and attractive.

Of course, 4XX isn't just fat, it's morbidly obese. It is fatty fat fat fat. It is Fatty McPorkSkins Fat.

It's one thing to be a "big girl" or a "healthy girl" or have "birthing hips" or whatever. That's fine and dandy and there's nothing wrong or unattractive about that.

And as for you Haemish, go eat a cheeseburger. Make it a double.

[personman]

Needing any shirt above an XXL is warning sign to do something about your health.

Perhaps but it's not your call and the public taunts just reflect poor character.  Generally we better demonstrate our strength by what we choose not to do or say rather than giving in to our more venal urges.

Maybe your blog needs a section separating righteous from the self-righteous.  You'll even find scripture to help you with that task.  A couple that come to mind: beams, motes, and eyes.  Those without sin casting stones.

I bet we could find more, and maybe even make it pan-doctrine by dipping into the Upanishads and Kult Komet Komix.  I'd be happy to brainstorm it with you and I'll model for you my 2x Blizzard t-shirt that I can now comfortably wear, less because of "will-power" and more because modern medicine is a beautiful thing.

[sidereal]

Hey, how can you possibly feel good about yourself if you can't diminish other people?  If we can't trash the obese in order to elevate ourselves, what do we have left?  They took minorities and women away from us!

[Signe]

Why did I bother to learn how to read?

[Paelos]

Needing any shirt above an XXL is warning sign to do something about your health.

Perhaps but it's not your call and the public taunts just reflect poor character.  Generally we better demonstrate our strength by what we choose not to do or say rather than giving in to our more venal urges.

Maybe your blog needs a section separating righteous from the self-righteous.  You'll even find scripture to help you with that task.  A couple that come to mind: beams, motes, and eyes.  Those without sin casting stones.

I bet we could find more, and maybe even make it pan-doctrine by dipping into the Upanishads and Kult Komet Komix.  I'd be happy to brainstorm it with you and I'll model for you my 2x Blizzard t-shirt that I can now comfortably wear, less because of "will-power" and more because modern medicine is a beautiful thing.

Nice high and mighty speech. Find me a place where I said we should start stoning fat people with obsenities on the street. No? Oh that's right, because that wasn't my point at all. I said its about health, and taking responsibility for it yourself. I said 4X is too big, which is undeniably true, and that it should be one of the many markers to Americans to say, Hey I might have a problem that can KILL ME.

Note also that it would be pretty damn un-Christian of me to sit there and pretend someone doesn't have a problem when they actually do, AND they can fix it. Not everybody is in your boat of having few options for medical reasons. I'm not going to patronize someone into believing that its not a life-threatening issue, but I'm also not going to try and motivate them by name-calling and ridicule.

[Signe]

Not being a christian, I am free to ignore the physical maladies of strangers.  Being a misanthrope, I am free to ignore the rest of them, too.  

I feel happy.

[Calantus]

Yay, the universal past-time: picking on fat people. There's nothing quite as fun as kicking people who are quite possibly mentally scarred due to years upon years of abuse. All good fun right? Or are we just trying to tell them that they are overweight incase they didn't notice they were fat? Or maybe incase they haven't heard about the health risks even though they'd have to blind and deaf not to know? Well, it's fortunate you were all here to point these out for them.

Jesus. You guys have no fucking clue do you? Do you know what it does to a person when they are villified, ostricised and teased for years? You think "innocent" little comments don't cut to the bone? Fuck. I haven't been fat for years (and incase you want to know a popped disk, eating because I was bored and there was nothign else to do, followed by getting used to inactivity caused it initially... just in time for highschool too, yay) and I still get the urge to beat the crap out of people who make fat "comments".

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Seriously.

[MrHat]

Beefcake.


Now, about WoW....

[Shockeye]

Jesus. You guys have no fucking clue do you? Do you know what it does to a person when they are villified, ostricised and teased for years? You think "innocent" little comments don't cut to the bone? Fuck. I haven't been fat for years (and incase you want to know a popped disk, eating because I was bored and there was nothign else to do, followed by getting used to inactivity caused it initially... just in time for highschool too, yay) and I still get the urge to beat the crap out of people who make fat "comments".

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Seriously.

Therapy.

Seriously.

[toma levine]

I like to find random black people and inform them that they're likely to make less money than white people for their entire lives. They need to know this, for their own good.

[Calantus]

Jesus. You guys have no fucking clue do you? Do you know what it does to a person when they are villified, ostricised and teased for years? You think "innocent" little comments don't cut to the bone? Fuck. I haven't been fat for years (and incase you want to know a popped disk, eating because I was bored and there was nothign else to do, followed by getting used to inactivity caused it initially... just in time for highschool too, yay) and I still get the urge to beat the crap out of people who make fat "comments".

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Seriously.

Therapy.

Seriously.

Why thankyou, I didn't realise that I went right off the handle just then.

[Shockeye]

I like to find random black people and inform them that they're likely to make less money than white people for their entire lives. They need to know this, for their own good.

But do they need 4X shirts? I mean, c'mon now, keep on topic.

[Signe]

Why thankyou, I didn't realise that I went right off the handle just then.

You went right off the handle a while ago.  I just wanted to tell you that.  I thought you should know.

[Azhrarn]

They should probably play it safe and go for 5X.  Or is that L?

<cartman>I'm not a fatass!</cartman>

[schild]

Yay, the universal past-time: picking on fat people.

Get your past-times straight. Even the ridiculously massive pointed and laughed at Napolean Dynamite.

And I'm talking about people in the crowd.

[SuperPopTart]

Ahem, ya know... I am "fat" and moderately (Or so I am told) attractive. Big women are beautiful, and not just when you are drunk :P We can walk upright, walk through Walmart without having to use one of those nifty motorized scooters. We can have sex, run around a jogging track, play video games..

It's amazing what they teach fat people these days! Isn't it?

The point of this whole thing is this:

Everyone has something about them they don't, won't, will never like. I am not sure what the fluck is wrong with some of you not getting this one simple fact:

FAT PEOPLE CAN LOSE WEIGHT

I know that is some sort of amazing and new newsflash to some of you, and that any thought of the feelings of others before you speak is something totally new and unknown, but hey. So the guy wanted a very large T-Shirt. Not like he was asking for a free account, someone to teach him how to build an atomic bomb, planning a murder... stealing a fetus.

His only "crime" was being a big man asking for someone to accomodate him.



Sorry, had to post this and represent "My People". ;-)

[Shockeye]

FAT PEOPLE CAN LOSE WEIGHT

The problem is that some of these people don't want to lose weight. I have no problem with "fat" people who are trying to lose weight and improve their life. Been there, doing that.

This isn't about large people or XL, or even 2X, we're talking 4X. That is bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

[SuperPopTart]

But it isn't your job, nor anyone else's to tell them to lose weight. Can they? Absolutely? But you do not know nor have any personal knowledge of their medical history, what they have/and or are doing that has caused them to be as big as they are. So telling them to lose weight is not something you need to be doing. In a virtual world this shouldn't even be an issue, or a matter and isn't until someone decides to make it so.

Telling someone who cannot lose weight by normal means, or simply isn't ready, doesn't have the mental/emotional/physical/social tools TO lose the weight falls on deaf ears and makes those already scarred and saddened by what society has thrown at them because of the image of perfection that it itself has is hurtful, disgraceful and disgusting.

As for me, I'm big. I'm not trying to lose the weight nor do I care to. And when I do it'll be my decision, not become some complete moron who I don't know decided to take it upon his or herself and tell me it's time.

I'm not a minion.

[Shockeye]

what society has thrown at them because of the image of perfection

This has nothing to do with the stupid idea of perfection. This has to do with health.

[NiX]

We can have sex, run around a jogging track, play video games..

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

Seriously, I have to say the people who are obscenely overweight are in trouble. It is childish to make "comments", but to say "That's not healthy" isn't a crime. It's not healthy. That's a fact. I can't help but be reminded of shit like "Super Size Me" and that lawsuit with the mother suing McDonalds for her kids becoming overweight. It's the ones that blame everyone else for why they can't lose the weight. Sooner or later they'll have to realize bitching doesn't cause weight loss.

[Shockeye]

As for me, I'm big. I'm not trying to lose the weight nor do I care to. And when I do it'll be my decision, not become some complete moron who I don't know decided to take it upon his or herself and tell me it's time.

You aren't morbidly obese.

[SuperPopTart]

But it isn't your health. It is his health. You don't pay his medical bills, you aren't his family or his doctor, he doesn't answer to you (And realize I mean you in a very general term, not directed at you personally, shockeye) and he is responsible for his own person. The choices HE makes affects him and asking a company to be considerate of the sizes of different people isn't a crime.

[Shockeye]

But it isn't your health. It is his health. You don't pay his medical bills, you aren't his family or his doctor, he doesn't answer to you (And realize I mean you in a very general term, not directed at you personally, shockeye) and he is responsible for his own person. The choices HE makes affects him and asking a company to be considerate of the sizes of different people isn't a crime.

Actually it could be affecting me. My wife told me our health plan covers gastric bypass surgery. It also turns out a number of people in her office got the surgery without ever trying to lose any weight. They decided to take the easy way out and not dedicate themselves to being healthy on their own. Our medical insurance costs keep going up. Idiots like that cost me money. They take no responsibility for their own weight instead letting medicine do it for them.

[schild]

Alright. Look.

XXXXL is goddamnedably huge. If we started selling T-Shirts, you can be damned sure we wouldn't go over XL. We MAY go to XXL if there isn't a price increase. But XXXXL? That's got to be less than .1 of 1% of the entire gaming populace. Gamer Sizes range between Large and doubleXL.

Now, as for the super fat guy who sits around playing MMORPGs....screw his fat ass. I don't care about his health or if his family drove him to fatness. He made a spectacle from himself, and getting made fun of on a family site like this is the least of his worries.

People make fun of supernerds more than fat people. You're missing the forest for the trees. Though some of the forest may be really FAT. FAT. FAT.

That said, I'm 6'/250, with a beer gut. Joe met me, he can vouch for me being more large than fat. I know the difference. I know I could lose a good 25-50 lbs and still be larger than the normal guy. Wide shoulders, chest, big guido build. Oh well. But I'm at 250 and wear an XL from most places and a large from some. Once I can't fit into my 3-button jacket that didn't come from a Big & Tall store, I'll know I've crossed that line.

I have almost no elastic in my wardrobe. But I get made fun of more for being a dork than being fat.

I've rambled a bit here. But my point is, don't feel sympathy for the fat guy. He knows what he can do and he brought what we're making fun of on himself.