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Furiously
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I'm thinking that might be the most massive patch ever.
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Merusk
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I have just learned there are mods for this game. Wtf, how did I miss this previously? Goddamnit.
Any recommendations?
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veredus
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« Last Edit: March 13, 2012, 07:06:06 PM by veredus »
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Gets
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I use:
OverTargetMarkers ContoursMod ZoomOut mod Hitskins mod (clowncar tanks) Reload timer ServerSideCursor mod Reduced foliage (decreases frames per second, so not that great)
What is cool about OverTargetMarkers is the "Blow up!" marker making it easy to see someone getting ammoracked. But you can do a lot of customization with mods, including making your HUD look like you're playing MechWarrior.
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Tmon
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WoT has been slowly adding functionality from some of the more popular mods, the next patch will incorporate the hit points and bar display from over the target mod. They also changed the way mods were applied with the 7.1.1 patch that went out yesterday. They now have a mod folder, were you put the mods so that they won't get overwritten every upgrade. Not sure how it works since my new PC hasn't arrived and none of the working pcs I own can run the game. I'm pretty minimalist concerning mods, I used OTM and the reload countdown timer. Here's a link to the OTM and the Countdown timer with instructions for making them work in 7.1.1 http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/74727-070-overtargetmarkers-and-crosshairs-with-timer-reloading/
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« Last Edit: March 14, 2012, 06:38:55 AM by Tmon »
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Nebu
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I'm pretty impressed with the game and the development team. WoT has become my game-to-play-when-I'm-tired-of-my-main-timesink. I'm enjoying SWTOR still, but drop by WoT when I want a quality pvp fix.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Started having the odd game of this again, after not playing for a few months.
Fuck me but it's hard to get XP now! Winning a match with 5 kills and getting 800 xp for it? Ouch.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Mortriden
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XP is now almost completely based on damage dealt to the enemy team. There are some interesting "assist" type stuff; such as if you are the tank that has spotted an enemy tank on the radar and a teammate damages them, you get a portion of the experience for the damage as well (I don't think it detracts from the teammate, kind of you get a "bonus" for spotting the enemy when it is damaged).
You get a very, very small bonus for delivering the killing blow to an enemy tank.
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It's like calling shenanigans. But you say "jihad" instead. - Llava They are out there, but they are bi-products of funny families. If you know funny old people, see if they have daughters. -Paelos Yes my seed is that strong. I literally clap my hands and women are with child. -Paelos
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disKret
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XP is now almost completely based on damage dealt to the enemy team. There are some interesting "assist" type stuff; such as if you are the tank that has spotted an enemy tank on the radar and a teammate damages them, you get a portion of the experience for the damage as well (I don't think it detracts from the teammate, kind of you get a "bonus" for spotting the enemy when it is damaged).
You get a very, very small bonus for delivering the killing blow to an enemy tank.
It was always like that.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Yeah, I know that's how it works, and I'm fairly sure that the difference now is because of the changes to penetration and that whole armour normalisation thing. It feels like I'm bouncing a lot more shots than I used to.
It's a shame because it makes it feel even more grindy than it did before. Although I'm sure the reasoning behind it is to push more people into buying gold ammo.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Merusk
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More like it's to get people to buy gold to pay for premium, where your xp is doubled. Fuck that noise, I'll grind away forever in Tier VI knowing I'll never see a tier VII tank other than the Type-59 I bought because it was going away.
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Amarr HM
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Any mention of when the physics engine is being introduced? I may return to try that out.
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I'm going to escape, come back, wipe this place off the face of the Earth, obliterate it and you with it.
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Engels
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Anyone else, other than Abagadro and I using the stats mod? Its pretty nifty; it gives you player ratings within each match. It lists percentage of battles won, number of battles played and some soft of 'efficiency' rating. So someone can have a high battle won ratio, but low efficiency rating, which suggests that although they are often grouped with great players, they themselves may be so-so. Or they use tactics that aren't particularly calculable and obtain better results.
The players are then coded red, orange, green and purple. Purple players are the superlatives, either due to over 60% victory rates or high efficiency rating, or both.
Its of interest to note that in my relatively new experience with the mod on, its easy to predict battle outcomes if there's a significant disparity in player quality. I know, shocking.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
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Nebu
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Anyone else, other than Abagadro and I using the stats mod? Its pretty nifty; it gives you player ratings within each match. It lists percentage of battles won, number of battles played and some soft of 'efficiency' rating. So someone can have a high battle won ratio, but low efficiency rating, which suggests that although they are often grouped with great players, they themselves may be so-so. Or they use tactics that aren't particularly calculable and obtain better results.
I may never play again. It's depressing to know that there's a mod that places a big "NEBU SUCKS" tag over my head.
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"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
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Engels
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Many players are in the 'average' category. You wouldn't necessarily stick out like a sore thumb. They don't have an 'abysmal' color code.
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« Last Edit: March 26, 2012, 12:59:56 PM by Engels »
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Nebu
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I don't want to be average. I'm a special snowflake, god damnit!
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"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
- Mark Twain
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Abagadro
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It's pretty predictive from my rough experience. If I had a bug about it you could write down the ratio of green/orange/red per team and the result and likely graph it out. I would bet it would show a pretty significant correlation.
On the one hand it is a bummer to load in and see that your team is shit, but on the other hand it reduces your expectations so you aren't that stressed as you watch your team evaporate.
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angry.bob
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You don't really need a mod to tell if your team is crap, it just gives you about 30 seconds of warning. Anytime a round starts and half the teams heads off to "capture" a hill I know we're fucked. Same goes for all the ights and mediums dying in less than a minute. Also, when MM gives us a T30, a T-54, and 2 pershings while the other team gets a Maus, an E-75, and 2 IS-4's.
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Abagadro
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I'll take a skilled T-54 over a crappy Maus any day and twice on sunday.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Tmon
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Cool. Still not used to the last couple of new maps, Swamp & Fjords, but I've barely played since they were released. I've not been using the mod that shows your efficiency, but I've been watching my own using the webpage, and it's made me play much more carefully in an effort to increase it. I've gone from ~880 to just over 910 in a couple of weeks, so I guess having that info available is making me a better player... Had a funny match yesterday. Was in my T29 and most of the rest of my team died in very short order. Ended up with me and a Slugger left against almost all of the other team. Long story short I ended up with 7 kills, Boelter Medal and 2 other medals.... and one of my team mates who'd died in the first 60 seconds but stayed to watch called me a noob for not winning the match.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Ginaz
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Cool. Still not used to the last couple of new maps, Swamp & Fjords, but I've barely played since they were released. I've not been using the mod that shows your efficiency, but I've been watching my own using the webpage, and it's made me play much more carefully in an effort to increase it. I've gone from ~880 to just over 910 in a couple of weeks, so I guess having that info available is making me a better player... Had a funny match yesterday. Was in my T29 and most of the rest of my team died in very short order. Ended up with me and a Slugger left against almost all of the other team. Long story short I ended up with 7 kills, Boelter Medal and 2 other medals.... and one of my team mates who'd died in the first 60 seconds but stayed to watch called me a noob for not winning the match. I was in my Wolverine last night (tier 3-5 match) and all but 2 of my teamates were gone against 8 of the other team left. We ended up winning with the last 2 guys on my team getting 1 kill each and me killing the rest. I ended up with 8 kills total, almost all of the damage done by me. The Wolverine is a beast in that type of match because of the high rate of fire and being able to pen everything tier 5 and under. Even KVs melt will away pretty quickly.
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Tmon
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M10 is one of my favorite tanks in the game, I'm really looking forward to the m18, I drove one on the test server and it's like an m10 on speed.
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Furiously
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I'm excited to watch my garage explode with tanks tomorrow.
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Tmon
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I've heard mixed reviews for the new US heavies, since they come with garage slots I won't be in a hurry to sell them off even if they suck. I did run some games in the t30 on test and it is much better as a tier 9 td than it is a tier ten heavy.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Yeah I was hoping to have reached one or more of those high tier US heavies in time for this patch, but not playing for several months put that plan out the window.
And I'm heading towards Wolverine myself atm. About 9k left to get on the T40, which is a strange little tank.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Tmon
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Once you get it maxed the T40 can be a lot of fun, the bad news on your wolverine grind is that as part of 7.2 they modified xp costs on a bunch of vehicles {the changes are listed here http://worldoftanks.com/en/release_notes ) and the wolverine got bumped up to 14430.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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That's only an extra 2000 xp though, like 4-5 games, no biggy.
Bit more annoying is the nerf to profitability of most tier 6+ tanks. +25% repair costs for the M4A3E2 and E8? Ouch.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Had a chance to play a bit now.
I love the increase of the daily double to a daily triple. I like the indicator on the tank selector to show which tanks have completed their daily triple - no more using Primary/Secondary as an aide memoir! I like the new "Demount" button more than the last iteration but less than the one before that.
The new skills are of no interest to me at all so far - none of them are better than Camoflage or Repair and none of my tank crews have got both of those to 100% yet.
Only had 1 game on each of the new maps so far but at first glance they seem awesome. Lots of cover but some open areas too, no stupid marshy areas or vast open hills to promote excessive camping, feels like they'll be a lot of fun.
Built-in over-target markers, no need to mod that any more, I like. Also nicely customisable.
Not got any of the new tanks, can't comment on them.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Ginaz
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I've heard mixed reviews for the new US heavies, since they come with garage slots I won't be in a hurry to sell them off even if they suck. I did run some games in the t30 on test and it is much better as a tier 9 td than it is a tier ten heavy.
I played around a bit with the new US T9 that replaces the T-34 and it wasn't too bad but it was hard to tell if it was significantly better than the T-34. It looks cooler, imo, if that means anything. I'm just glad the grind to get the T-34 is going to net me another T8 prem. tank and I get the new tank as well. The new US TDs are a little underwhelming mostly because they are so fragile. The Hellcat can be penned and destroyed by T2-3 tanks and probably even T1s. Its fast as hell and has a decent gun but I don't know if that will be enough to make up for its weak armour.
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Tmon
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The new premium looks like it earns as well if not slightly better than the Lowe. In four games I grossed 226k credits in the t34 vs 165k in Lowe, both tanks went 2 and 2.
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Abagadro
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The new Italian map is pretty cool. Has more verticality than any other map.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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veredus
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Fully upgraded Hellcat is a ton of fun. As for the new heavies, in my very limited experience playing both of them, (about 5 or 6 battles in each) I'm split on them. I actually like the M103 better then the T34. It does bounce a little bit more overall and it's a lot more maneuverable. Can't hull down with it like the T34 but it moves so much better that it's not needed as much. On the fence with the T110 mostly due to the gun. All the same advantages as the M103 over the T34 but a 400 damage gun on a tier 10 really kind of blows and your high rate of fire doesn't mean dick in most situations.
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Brolan
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Had a chance to play a bit now.
I love the increase of the daily double to a daily triple. I like the indicator on the tank selector to show which tanks have completed their daily triple - no more using Primary/Secondary as an aide memoir! ...
You realize they always had a red star in the upper right corner to designate which tanks still had their bonus, right?
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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You realize they always had a red star in the upper right corner to designate which tanks still had their bonus, right?
No. Haha.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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