PS3

[KallDrexx]

Eh the only reason I get annoyed is because haven't been playing consoles much.  So out of the last 5 times I've gamed on it in the past 1.5 months it's frozen twice. 

[Draegan]

My brand new PS3 ha sound issues some times where I end up having to reboot it.

[schild]

well blah.  Looks like PS3s still have freezing issues.  My PS3 completely froze while playing Dragon Age last night.

Still? When did they ever have freezing issues that it would require the word "still?" Are you sure you aren't playing on a 360?

Seriously though, out of thousands and thousands of hours of gaming on both of my PS3s, I can count on one hand how many times they've frozen. And it's generally due to the game.

[KallDrexx]

Still? When did they ever have freezing issues that it would require the word "still?" Are you sure you aren't playing on a 360?

Seriously though, out of thousands and thousands of hours of gaming on both of my PS3s, I can count on one hand how many times they've frozen. And it's generally due to the game.

Erm if you look a few pages back there are a couple of people talking about freezing in the latest firmware.  That's the only reason I used the word "still", and even posted this.

[schild]

Hm. Mine didn't, but during that clock "debacle" I didn't turn mine on, I just waited for the date to roll over.

[Yegolev]

I'm willing to blame software to a degree, but if it happens in multiple games then it's HW+FW.  I have a 60GB release PS3, though, so I can't be much help.  Maybe people who wanted a cheaper PS3 got exactly what they asked for.

[Rasix]

Mine's frozen once.  Happened in Uncharted 2 during the tank scene, where there was a lot of terrain being deformed by a shell blast. 360 has frozen a couple times (Mass Effect), but I don't play it a lot.  Wii, I don't think has frozen ever, but it doesn't actually have to try hard either.

[HaemishM]

At the risk of being labeled a fanboi, I can't think of any console I have had that hasn't frozen.  Except maybe the Wii.

You weren't playing the right games on your Wii then. Or the wrong ones. Far Cry not only froze on me, the freeze totally boofooed my save game. That was a blessing in disguise because it meant I didn't have to play Far Cry for the Wii anymore.

[Azazel]

Why are you playing games like that on the Wii?

[Rasix]

Why are you playing games like that on the Wii?

He chose.. poorly.

[Pennilenko]

I finally get the wife to okay a PS3 after spending thousands of dollars on higher end matching PCs, and there is a damn artificial shortage.

[Velorath]

It's not artificial, it's just poor planning.  I'm pretty sure Sony would love to have ps3's on the shelf right now.

[Ghambit]

I finally get the wife to okay a PS3 after spending thousands of dollars on higher end matching PCs, and there is a damn artificial shortage.

Plenty of broke people on Ebay/Craigslist trying to dump their consoles.  Typically for the price of a new one you can get all the controllers, cables, bigger HDD, and a plethora of games.
Normally I wouldnt recommend doing this for a console, but for the PS3 I think it's fine.  Xbox??  not so much.

[Yegolev]

I replaced my 60GB disk with a 320GB 7200RPM one.  Was easy enough, just took a while.  Now I can download that Dragon Age expansion.

[fuser]

The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the “Install Other OS” feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.21 system software update.

Little early for an April 1st joke?

Oh and if you don't update you won't get any PSN features and any bluray discs that require the firmware 

[Quinton]

Sounds an awful lot like:
1. oops there's a bug or potential bug in the hypervisor
2. fixing bugs is HARD
3. let's just remove the other os feature to reduce the risk, instead

Kinda weak, really.  Either their security is really bad (such that they can't secure the hypervisor against an untrusted client OS, kinda defeating the entire point of it), or they're too lazy to really fix it and are hoping nobody finds a local exploit to run untrusted code under their GameOS (which then could be used to attack the hypervisor, which apparently is not being fixed).

Glad I picked up a ps3 slim now -- I'll use that for gaming and hang onto the older 60GB release model should I ever find the time for more linux-on-ps3 hacking.

[Kageh]

I don't like the sound of disabling Linux either, but my Linux experience at launch was "Yay me, got it working, what now?" and I never went back to it. Did you guys use it for anything useful on the PS3?

P.S. Don't think this is going to hurt the PS3 compute cluster users much since they probably aren't forced to upgrade.

[Trippy]

The PS3 hypervisor was hacked a few months ago. This is presumably part of Sony's response to that hack.

http://rdist.root.org/2010/01/27/how-the-ps3-hypervisor-was-hacked/

[rrazcueta]

I don't like the sound of disabling Linux either, but my Linux experience at launch was "Yay me, got it working, what now?" and I never went back to it. Did you guys use it for anything useful on the PS3?

P.S. Don't think this is going to hurt the PS3 compute cluster users much since they probably aren't forced to upgrade.

Linux isn't really that great on PS3.

If you're good with Linux you can get it optimized pretty well to run stuff like SNES emulators, but...  why. I wonder what happens to people already with Linux partitions? Does it just not work anymore?

[Kageh]

Yes, seems the partition is not accessible anymore afterwards, says so under the link fuser posted.

[fuser]

The PS3 hypervisor was hacked a few months ago. This is presumably part of Sony's response to that hack.

http://rdist.root.org/2010/01/27/how-the-ps3-hypervisor-was-hacked/

Seem's like they are spooked and want to cut it off now. The percentage of ps3's is probably low where other os is totally removed from slims and never an option to access it. The "fat" stock has got to be gone and totally out of production.

I wonder what happens to people already with Linux partitions? Does it just not work anymore?

Data's gone with no way to access it again post update. Well besides removing the hard drive and using a PC to mount the partitions.

[Yegolev]

I can see the logic in not supporting a product that has been replaced.  I didn't use it, I run linux on a PC like a normal person.

[schild]

Without RSX access, Linux on the PS3 was stupid anyway. Keeping pirates out by shutting off access seems like a fine solution.

[BitWarrior]

Include more codec support (MKV, ISO, IMG, Flac, OGG, etc), samba shares and create an app marketplace, and pretty much any and all reasons to have linux installed are gone (for the normal public).

[Mrbloodworth]

Well, except for Linux nerds, they really don't need a reason to install it on any machine, they seem to like the process. 

[fuser]

Anyone running a router with dnsmasq feel free to add the following line (and yes that's my http server):

address=/fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/74.207.232.74

[ffc]

Anyone running a router with dnsmasq feel free to add the following line (and yes that's my http server):

address=/fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/74.207.232.74

I'm running Tomato and I found the dnsmasq entry field but what happens when I enter your line?

[fuser]

I'm running Tomato and I found the dnsmasq entry field but what happens when I enter your line?

When a PS3 first attempts a connection to the internet it sends a http request to fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net to pull the file /update/ps3/list/us/ps3-updatelist.txt The update list defines what the current PS3 firmware is, in this case 3.21. In order to avoid the 3.21 update people are running proxy servers to replace the file but this is quite cumbersome.

The dnsmasq changes the dns entry so when you attempt to retrieve the normal PS3 update file it will switch to a non Sony server. The non Sony server will respond saying 3.15 is the latest firmware and currently you can still log on the PSN and have full features. It's a quick and easy I'm sure at some point they will flip a switch requiring the 3.21 firmware. If you use the line and at any point in the future you want to install the update or require it you can just simply remove the line from dnsmasq and resume normal ps3 updates.

You can check out the differences in the live and my ps3-updatelist.txt file.

[Mrbloodworth]

I am confused, what are you guys doing? Bypassing the firmware updates?

[Yegolev]

Look out, here comes Principal Skinner!

[waffel]

Welp, looks like my 5 month old PS3 (with at max 50 hours of 'blu ray laser' time) no longer reads Blu Rays.

Put in FF13, watched the screen turn black, noticed it was just sitting there doing nothing. Got out of the 'game' and took out disc, put it back in, and nada. Tried other games, nothing. Tried CDs/DVDs and they play fine.

Reset settings. Got into Safemode. Reset settings and fixed a corrupted file system. No luck. Even restored system to factory settings and still nothing (wiped the drive in the process)

Needless to say, I'm quite fucking pissed. The PS3 is kept fairly clean, no dust build up in any of the back ports, I use it mainly for movies/netflix/pandora. I rarely use the blu ray drive.

So my options look like:
Buy can of compressed air and go to town on the air ports and maybe inside the drive
Try to fix/clean the laser myself
Send it into Sony and see it in a month.

Disappointing to say the least.

[schild]

Bad luck, guy.

[rrazcueta]

Welp, looks like my 5 month old PS3 (with at max 50 hours of 'blu ray laser' time) no longer reads Blu Rays.

Put in FF13, watched the screen turn black, noticed it was just sitting there doing nothing. Got out of the 'game' and took out disc, put it back in, and nada. Tried other games, nothing. Tried CDs/DVDs and they play fine.

Reset settings. Got into Safemode. Reset settings and fixed a corrupted file system. No luck. Even restored system to factory settings and still nothing (wiped the drive in the process)

Needless to say, I'm quite fucking pissed. The PS3 is kept fairly clean, no dust build up in any of the back ports, I use it mainly for movies/netflix/pandora. I rarely use the blu ray drive.

So my options look like:
Buy can of compressed air and go to town on the air ports and maybe inside the drive
Try to fix/clean the laser myself
Send it into Sony and see it in a month.

Disappointing to say the least.

Dude I just bought Bad Company 2 for PS3 so I could play it with you. Wtf lame.

[Salamok]

Welp, looks like my 5 month old PS3 (with at max 50 hours of 'blu ray laser' time) no longer reads Blu Rays.

Isn't there a 1 year warranty?

[fuser]

Welp, looks like my 5 month old PS3 (with at max 50 hours of 'blu ray laser' time) no longer reads Blu Rays.

Isn't there a 1 year warranty?

There is. I had my PS3 sent back over 6months in because I found the system fan too loud. They shipped out a whole new replacement unit for free and noted the warranty on the replacement is the 1year from the original purchase date.