Children's Week

[WindupAtheist]

I do lots of battlegrounds, I just don't care to pick up eggs and all that other dumb shit for a year. So I ran my orphan around, finished all the quests in an hour, and got my turtle.

[Paelos]

I do lots of battlegrounds, I just don't care to pick up eggs and all that other dumb shit for a year. So I ran my orphan around, finished all the quests in an hour, and got my turtle.

I find it amusing that the people talking about this as easy were pvpers to begin with.

Btw, before you start I don't think pve grouping should be an achievement either. I think world events should be solo crap.

[WindupAtheist]

I finished all my quests in an hour. I didn't do any achievements. By and large I ignore WoW holidays, but a new pet for doing a few simple quests is a good deal.

[Koyasha]

I haven't really done pvp in ages, and found the battleground parts mildly annoying, but nothing too horribly bad.  Even on a battlegroup where I never saw anyone try to help out with the pvp achievements at all.  People on my side were pretty much after the same thing or pissed off at the people with orphans focusing on the task they need to accomplish, and the enemy tended to be doing their damndest to prevent us from getting the achievements even at the cost of victory.  A couple times in Eye of the Storm some hordie would grab the flag and run off with it, just hanging onto it even when they had 2/3 bases and not capping it, just so nobody has a chance to capture it at all.

My only real complaint about the battleground achievements is that they forced people to focus on things that were not conducive to victory.  If they'd simply been 'win one of each battleground with your orphan out' I would have been fine with them.

[Zetor]

In that sense, the AB and AV ones weren't that bad... capping towers and nodes is a GOOD thing, and after someone caps one and gets the achievement, they might as well stick around and guard it until it turns.

But yeah, the WSG one was obnoxious (an achievement to reward flag turtling? srsly?) and the EOTS one was just a lemming fest...


-- Z.

[Xanthippe]

I haven't really done pvp in ages, and found the battleground parts mildly annoying, but nothing too horribly bad.  Even on a battlegroup where I never saw anyone try to help out with the pvp achievements at all.  People on my side were pretty much after the same thing or pissed off at the people with orphans focusing on the task they need to accomplish, and the enemy tended to be doing their damndest to prevent us from getting the achievements even at the cost of victory.  A couple times in Eye of the Storm some hordie would grab the flag and run off with it, just hanging onto it even when they had 2/3 bases and not capping it, just so nobody has a chance to capture it at all.

My only real complaint about the battleground achievements is that they forced people to focus on things that were not conducive to victory.  If they'd simply been 'win one of each battleground with your orphan out' I would have been fine with them.

Yes, I think everyone would have been fine with that too.

It's a form of griefing by developer to have a quest that requires people to piss everyone else off and work at cross purposes to winning the battleground in order to complete the achievement.

Whoever is making the decisions with regard to the recent holidays and Argent Tourney is/are highly incompetent.

[Ingmar]

For all of you people talking about how absolutely HORRIFIC EOTS and WSG were, were you trying to do the achievement on day one or what?

I tried for it yesterday and EotS was beyond horrific.  On my server's battlegroup, Horde in the 70-79 range in EotS consistently had at least a 2-1 advantage in numbers and usually had at least one group of 79 twinks.  It almost always took around a half hour just for the BG to start and most of the time the Alliance side would have between 5-7 people.  I had to try 24 times before I finally got that stupid flag.  That was the single worst experience I've had in WoW.

I think its definitely a fair point that this really blows in the non-80 BGs. I'm not totally sure whether the achievements themselves are to blame or if its mostly just that the non-80 battlegrounds are shit to start with, but its something I hadn't thought of until now anyway.

[Fordel]

For all of you people talking about how absolutely HORRIFIC EOTS and WSG were, were you trying to do the achievement on day one or what?

I tried for it yesterday and EotS was beyond horrific.  On my server's battlegroup, Horde in the 70-79 range in EotS consistently had at least a 2-1 advantage in numbers and usually had at least one group of 79 twinks.  It almost always took around a half hour just for the BG to start and most of the time the Alliance side would have between 5-7 people.  I had to try 24 times before I finally got that stupid flag.  That was the single worst experience I've had in WoW.

I think its definitely a fair point that this really blows in the non-80 BGs. I'm not totally sure whether the achievements themselves are to blame or if its mostly just that the non-80 battlegrounds are shit to start with, but its something I hadn't thought of until now anyway.

Sub Cap BG's are just shit, achievements or not. Between populations, twinks and wait times, just a heaping pile.

[Hindenburg]

If things have stayed the same, the 70-79's should be terrific. We used to accrue honor to the cap in the old 60-69's, way faster and a far more balanced experience than being a fresh 70 in shit gear.

[K9]

If things have stayed the same, the 70-79's should be terrific. We used to accrue honor to the cap in the old 60-69's, way faster and a far more balanced experience than being a fresh 70 in shit gear.

That was significantly motivated by the availability of welfare weapons at 70. I haven't checked out the 70-79 brackets on my shaman yet, but I'm guessing the changes to honour rewards have made grinding the lower brackets less appealing.

[Fordel]

If things have stayed the same, the 70-79's should be terrific. We used to accrue honor to the cap in the old 60-69's, way faster and a far more balanced experience than being a fresh 70 in shit gear.

The populations are very uneven at any given time for the sub cap BG's now. Not uncommon to spend half the game outnumbered 2:1.

[Rendakor]

If things have stayed the same, the 70-79's should be terrific. We used to accrue honor to the cap in the old 60-69's, way faster and a far more balanced experience than being a fresh 70 in shit gear.

That was significantly motivated by the availability of welfare weapons at 70. I haven't checked out the 70-79 brackets on my shaman yet, but I'm guessing the changes to honour rewards have made grinding the lower brackets less appealing.

With the new honor rewards they added in 3.1, it's actually worth doing for a bit at least. And with the crafted lvl 78 resilience gear, you don't have to 'twink' really hardcore to not suck.

[Selby]

And with the crafted lvl 78 resilience gear, you don't have to 'twink' really hardcore to not suck.

Ditto.  The crafted 78 gear is really nice for the most part considering that you used to walk into BG's with essentially either questing greens or raid gear and find out really quickly how effective you were.

[WindupAtheist]

Yeah, they buffed those level 78 blues with set bonuses in the last patch, too. I just replaced the last piece of mine not that long ago.