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Aez
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on: April 04, 2009, 05:44:17 AM

... so I putted a magic trick in your magic trick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C_iy7SyDJE&feature=channel

The video explain a trick but apparently, most people play along as they watch it and guess the correct answers.  I read a couple of comments but I  haven't found a decent explanation yet.

One theory is that only those who guess it right takes time to post a reply but I doubt it.  It's probably subliminal but i'd like a definitive answer.
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lamaros
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Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 05:53:59 AM

The video explain a trick but apparently, most people play along as they watch it and guess the correct answers.  I read a couple of comments but I  haven't found a decent explanation yet.

You're kidding, right?
Aez
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Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 06:49:45 AM

Not really.  I know how the girls is getting tricked in the video.  My question is how come most people guess like the girl while they watch the girl getting tricked.
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Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 06:58:10 AM

My question is how come most people guess like the girl while they watch the girl getting tricked.

Evidence pointing to this is what? You-Tube comments?

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Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 07:20:18 AM

Well it happened to me  awesome, for real
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Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 07:53:46 AM

Well it happened to me  awesome, for real

Yeah me too. Rather weird.

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Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 07:56:00 AM

Not me, I picked square first.
Aez
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Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 09:05:45 AM

The first one IS square.
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Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 09:27:47 AM

Seven days...   awesome, for real

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Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 10:43:54 AM

It's a complex variant on the 'non extremes' tendency of people. You can do the same by 'pick a number from 1-4' People pick 3, then 2. Add some attention grabbing shapes and it becomes easier. People avoid extreme choices, but also the exact middle. 1-10? 7

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Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 01:15:50 PM

I'm not sure what is going on here, are you arguing that most people choose the same shapes as the girl?  You did watch the video right?

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Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 01:26:27 PM

I actually did the exact same shapes as the girl in the video too. I don't think it's an intentional part of the trick but rattran might have an explanation for why so many people do go for the same shapes in a similar order. I'm guessing a big part of it is the fact that people are also generally unwilling to pick shapes that have already come up, otherwise it would be pretty ridiculously unlikely.

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Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 01:49:23 PM

I'm not sure what is going on here, are you arguing that most people choose the same shapes as the girl?  You did watch the video right?

Yep and yep.
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Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 02:27:13 PM

It's a complex variant on the 'non extremes' tendency of people. You can do the same by 'pick a number from 1-4' People pick 3, then 2. Add some attention grabbing shapes and it becomes easier. People avoid extreme choices, but also the exact middle. 1-10? 7

I was trying to figure out what exactly it was, but the best description I could come up with is multiple choice tests. People tend to change answers if something is too consistent or seems too far off the 'pattern'.
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Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 12:11:25 AM

The apparently large number of people picking the same shapes as the girl in the vid is a perfect example of self-selecting cherry picked data and why you do double-blind studies.

The 199 out of 200 people who *didn't* pick the same shapes as the girl and didn't post on the YouTube comments don't appear in the data set, because they didn't think there was anything remarkable about NOT picling the same shapes. The 1 in 200 who *did* (randomly or influenced by various psychological tendencies) happen to pick the same shapes post "OMG! I picked teh same ones!" and thus the data set (of YouTube comments) is skewed.

It's an example of what coincidences are. People get freaked out by seemingly impossibly rare coincidences but the vast number of different sensory and mental experiences we all have every day mean that coincidences are actually highly likely, we just don't notice the ten billion non-coincidences happening all the time.

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Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 04:30:00 AM

I think it's more than that.  Looks at this thread, it happened way more than 1 out of 200.
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Reply #16 on: April 05, 2009, 05:49:18 AM

The 199 out of 200 people who *didn't* pick the same shapes as the girl and didn't post on the YouTube comments don't appear in the data set, because they didn't think there was anything remarkable about NOT picling the same shapes.
I think it's more than that.  Looks at this thread, it happened way more than 1 out of 200.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hyperbole

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Reply #17 on: April 06, 2009, 06:56:55 AM

I think it's more than that.  Looks at this thread, it happened way more than 1 out of 200.

Yes, CLEARLY psychic powers are involved.   awesome, for real
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Reply #18 on: April 09, 2009, 01:06:16 PM

I think it's more than that.  Looks at this thread, it happened way more than 1 out of 200.

Yes, CLEARLY psychic powers are involved.   awesome, for real

That must be one hell of a computer to capture, record,  and re-transmit the senders psychic message!  Grin
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Reply #19 on: April 12, 2009, 09:36:48 PM

That must be one hell of a computer to capture, record,  and re-transmit the senders psychic message!  Grin

Must be a Mac. I knew they were good for something Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 08:27:15 AM

Guessed completely different shapes each time. I would be pretty amazed if there is an underlying trick at play.
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Reply #21 on: April 15, 2009, 09:28:03 AM

This thread is the unintentional comedy goldmine of the year so far  why so serious?

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Reply #22 on: April 15, 2009, 09:31:45 AM

Hey there is like 5-6 people at the top of the thread convinced sorcery is being used. Ive seen some pretty amazing tricks of psychology/perception so i didn't want to be mean.
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