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Topic: Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, Live Gamer Exchange (Read 12736 times)
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sam, an eggplant
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My guess is that it's very close to being frozen and placed in maintenance mode ala MxO, and this change is supposed to finance the live team.
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Merusk
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Just like the Playstation, and the Playstation 2, as time goes on, the use of its hardware will improve (By those developing on it), just as the ps2 before it crushing its competitors. All the Playstation consoles have had this ramp up. The console has not been out very long. I will dare to say, that all games released to date are using about 30% of its power (as most i bet are using brute force to overcome, instead of understand its complexities). Yes, i pulled this from my ass, but look at early PS2 games, then late PS2 games.
Well yeah, that's a given I think. Eventually someone will come up with ways of pushing the chip that require a better chip. I was thinking along the previous lifecycles of consoles, 5-ish years, and what would be improved if you were going to announce the release of a new console in the near future. Do you really need to upgrade the 360 or ps3 processor vs those other improvements. I'd say no, not yet. |
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Rendakor
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My guess is that it's very close to being frozen and placed in maintenance mode ala MxO
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CharlieMopps
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That's the last nail in the coffin for Vanguard. The only chance the game had was SOE dumping in more money to make it a Hardcore Inde game. I can't imagine the types of people that are still in Vangaurd now being ok with this. And on ALL servers? lol
I really don't see SOE doing anymore "Real" mmos. It's pretty obvious they are headed in a "Profit above all else" direction. So the are most likely going to start spitting out a lot of web-based crap that will have low subscriber count but high profit margins due to RMT. I'm sure the Console stuff they want to do will be similar. And since these trypes of scams games apeal to a lot younger audience I think we can expect a lot of kids game. Want to get your spongebob avatar a reefblower? just $1.99 and the Sony store!
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schild
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You're just kinda talking hoping someone will agree with you right?
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Hawkbit
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I'd wager they're working on different games to bring in different types of customers/money, but I can't imagine they'd drop the EQ ip altogether. I *hope* they're working on EQ3 and using lessons learned from the mistakes of EQ and EQ2 (and swg... and vanguard... and...). Agency and FreeRealms are the ones we know about, what else lies beneath the surface?
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Nonentity
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What? No, it's too early. Don't start talking about EQ3.
I don't think my brain can handle the first MMO to have a trilogy.
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Fordel
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Maybe it'll work! EQ 3 could be just like SMB3!
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Ingmar
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Maybe it'll work! EQ 3 could be just like SMB3!
Or HoMM3! |
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Bzalthek
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Or Matrix 3!
oh wait...
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WindupAtheist
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Or Episode III! By which I mean awesome!  God I need a new schtick. |
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CharlieMopps
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You're just kinda talking hoping someone will agree with you right?
So you think the people that play Vanguard right now are going to be cool with this? The topic in the Vanguard forums is already 120 pages long... Given the number of subscribers they have, that's down right incredible. http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=45552It currently has more replies than any other topic every posted to that forum. I didn't read through them all but, of the 10 or so pages I looked at, I didn't see a single post that was in any way supportive of the idea. |
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Hawkbit
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What's even more incredible is that with a 120 page thread each of the people left actually playing Vanguard would have had to post 2 or 3 pages to make it that large. But seriously folks, what if the alternative is to shut the game down? If it's not making enough money, seems there's no reason to keep it around. |
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Nebu
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But seriously folks, what if the alternative is to shut the game down? If it's not making enough money, seems there's no reason to keep it around.
I'm sure everyone here is fine with that option!  |
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Venkman
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Jeezus. Ranting about SOE gunning for more money? Some reset the board clock back a few years?
SOE does this because they can. And because they know that most of the rage is from the same people who in the end don't really care. Because they're so stuck in VG that nothing is going to kick them out. Or they'd have left already. An alternative business model would no more to make them leave than special station exchange servers probably did to EQ2's numbers.
SOE has a platform. They and others publish games on that platform. Whether the SOE-we-loved-to-hate-years-ago makes another game or not is entirely irrelevant to whether they continue to do well as a company.
But that statement would only matter if they weren't working on DCUO, Free Realms and The Agency. Since they are in fact working on stuff that isn't just freebie web crap, the jury's still out.
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schild
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But that statement would only matter if they weren't working on DCUO, Free Realms and The Agency. Since they are in fact working on stuff that isn't just freebie web crap, the jury's still out. They're working on a lot more than that, hombre. |
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Sky
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I bet Mopps would quit EQ2 all over again if he could for his outrage at RMT in an entire 'nother game, it's so much more impactful than simply quitting due to something happening on an entirely separate server.
That said, game-wide RMT is a shitty idea. Though I'm not sure making it legal and open makes much difference. It really sucked for my EQ1 server when I perma-camped Hadden and if you wanted a fishbone, you could visit my ebay page.
On the other hand, if I had disposable income I could see buying a wizard epic in EQ2 vs spending the kind of time in the company of the kind of people to get it ingame. Time = money. So...meh.
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Rake
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Mopps is not alone hating the policy of SoE enough to not want to pay one more dime to them, whether in protest, or whatever.
They have zero regard for customers except to fuck them over every which way they can, so fuck them back.
If you are happy to keep feeding them your earnings and enjoy the games they buyout/produce then I'm happy for you. Me I'm done with them as a company.
If they produced the best game ever I'd still not buy it, but luckily they suck so much at throwing shit out unfinished that I'm not gonna miss out on anything worthwhile.
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tazelbain
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If they had made the client free, ditched the sub, and went full RMT that would at least get me take a serious look at it.
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shiznitz
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If they had made the client free, ditched the sub, and went full RMT that would at least get me take a serious look at it.
Bingo. I have a character there with 12p and I really liked group combat but travel and grind were over the top. |
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Venkman
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But that statement would only matter if they weren't working on DCUO, Free Realms and The Agency. Since they are in fact working on stuff that isn't just freebie web crap, the jury's still out. They're working on a lot more than that, hombre. Yea, but insider knowledge doesn't matter until you can tell others about it.  The point is that with just the public stuff, they're doing a lot more than Mopps' assertion of web-based crap implies. |
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