Blood Bowl - for real

[proudft]

So since you've been playing, do you know what the blank 'Coming Soon' race on http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/index.php?rub=races-home-bble is?  

[eldaec]

Pretty sure only high elves and chaos dwarfs are missing, and we know it isn't chaos dwarfs.

Edit: also, that is a high elf symbol.

Edit2: also, they did did the reveal today and it is high elf.

[proudft]

Yay, I guess?

[Cadaverine]

More like "Here is a game that absolutely did not need another douchey elf team". 

[eldaec]

It now has all the teams except chaos dwarfs and the LRB6 teams that GW seem to be trying to kill because GW is run by fuckwits.

So pretty much all the teams. There isn't a lot of decision making left for the devs. Which team shall we add? I know, lets add the only remaining team...

[eldaec]

This is now showing up in steam for release October 28.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/58520/

[Falconeer]

It says "Unlocks on the 28th", but it can't be preordered or prepurchased. Fishy.

[eldaec]

That's not uncommon on steam.

[Azazel]

I feel your pain. I would have felt the same if they left out Amazons this time too. 
Scrapping a game for that though? Typical Azazel.

Nah. Not for that. That was just being annoyed.

As I said a bunch of posts earlier, the F13 league never happened, which was one of the reasons I bought the first one and I haven't otherwise played the first one enough to buy it again. Certainly not at Full Price. Incompatability doesn't help either.

But the main reason, as stated, was because I didn't play the last one enough to justify buying it again. Broadly similar to the reason I didn't buy FIFA10. Didn't play FIFA09 enough to make it worthwhile.
I'll likely buy it on 360 when it hits the bargain bins like the first one did. And/or $10 Steam Sale.

[Modern Angel]

Ordered and set up. Still can't download yet but whatever.  Need a league.

[Falconeer]

I will make the League happen. Even if it's me and you MA.

[Kodan]

I am playing this and its ALOT more fun than the original version. I managed to get into the preorder from their online store before the 20th deal and was able to download the full game and start playing then. There are some early bug reports but nothing that seemed to me as totally game breaking. There has been a patch and I think another coming very soon. The games OFFICIAL release is the 28th. They just allowed some people in early as a preorder bonus(really more like a prerelease test of the server hardware). So far I think it was worth the 27.99(anyone who bought the original can get 30% off the price at their online store) I paid since there were some nice new additions to the game. Its more than just teams....

[Modern Angel]

Yeah, I was reading it wrong and thought I could get in now but... nope.

Did they alter the league setup at all? Different rules, set up tournaments and such?

[Teleku]

Ok, I'm a bit confused by all the different posts of information, so just clear this up for me.  Will I, as an American, be able to buy this game in a few days on Steam, and play with everybody online (who also buys the legendary edition obviously)?

[Llyse]

Like I said, I'm up for the long awaited F13 league and I'm dead sure Megrim is too.

[Azazel]

I will make the League happen. Even if it's me and you MA.

Which version?

[Megrim]

Ok, I'm a bit confused by all the different posts of information, so just clear this up for me.  Will I, as an American, be able to buy this game in a few days on Steam, and play with everybody online (who also buys the legendary edition obviously)?

As near as i can tell, the only differentiating factor between different countries is if you want a boxed version. The digital version is available to anyone, anywhere, and by extension i'm assuming the Steam version as well.

[Falconeer]

Well Azazel, I hate the idea of leaving anyone behind, seriously. But many here are upgrading to Legendary, and some will just get it as a first purchase (and these ones won't be able to play against Regular BB owners), so it would mean cutting off people anyway. If that would be the case, I think it makes sense to choose the newest installment with all the new shinies, new teams and better League support.

I own both versions, though, and should we have more people interested in a Regular league over a Legendary league I'll be happy to oblige.

[Azazel]

Yeah, I get you. I'm just not that keen on re-buying it so soon after paying $50 for the first one and then not really playing it. I think I lost one of my activations after my wife's PC died, as well. I can't recall their exact DRM scheme. 30% off is an alright enough Olive Branch, and I am aware that FIFA, etc do annual updates and aren't shy about asking full price for them each year, but ehhhh.

fake edit - I can't find a link anywhere on their page to the 30% off for owners of the original.

[Falconeer]

I can't find a link anywhere on their page to the 30% off for owners of the original.

Here? http://shop.bloodbowl-game.com/promo/725184/978/en

I hope it isn't for Europeans only.

[Ruvaldt]

It isn't.  I'm in Texas, and got 30% off of my preorder for having bought the original a little over a year ago.  I have to wait until the 28th to play though.   

[Cadaverine]

$26 with the discount.  Can't play til the 28th, but I can d/l it now.  Not sure what's up with the Steam version, though, since I bought mine off the Focus Interactive page, same as last time.

[Falconeer]

Did they alter the league setup at all? Different rules, set up tournaments and such?

I checked tonight just to be able to answer your questions, and the verdict is yes, the "Create League" page offers some new options, and according to what they say League Managers have more tools to control and fine tune leagues, before and after starting them.

Tournament type:
- Championship
- Cup
- Grand Slam
- Play-off

All of them quite customizable, up to number of pools, divisions, double round robins and play-off layers.
What I am in love is the hall of fame, the league individual tables for players in all categories like Best Killer, Best Receiver, Most violent Player, Best Thrower, Survivor, and many more. I'm wondering if this was present in the vanilla version too, but if it was I missed it which means it's way better organized here.

[Modern Angel]

Fucking perfect. PERFECT!

[eldaec]

Hall of fame was there before.

I'm disappointed but unsurprised that they don't have swiss leagues which would be ideal for leagues where you want a short season to cope with people dropping in and out whenever.

Barring that they could have a simple open format where you just play whoever you like until the commissioner calls time, meaning you could manually run any fixture system you like, and at the very least play fixtures out of order according to availability. (this system would even match the 'lore')

[Modern Angel]

Finally in and poking around, this seems like the next best thing. I want to say that they really listened to the complaints about their barebones league system with the prior effort but I haven't put enough time in to say definitely. But that's how it seems at first blush.

[Falconeer]

Hall of fame was there before.

I checked the old version. For some reason "Hall of fame" is hidden into the Team page and is greyed out and unselectable anyway in all the leagues I am participating, including our still alive f13 Test League. If it was there, it was a bit broken. Anyway, the new League Management stuff is what it should have been since the beginning.

[Kodan]

LOL this is what the whole game should  have been like in the beginning not just the league stuff... There are TONS of options that were not in the first game. Wish they had done ALL the star players but did alot of them... At the end of the day its a much better put together game.

[Cadaverine]

I've only played through the first two story mode matches, but so far it seems like a much better game than the first one.  The dice still hate me, though.

[Modern Angel]

Nuffle is a bitch goddess. I won with my halfling team only to get beaten 4-0 on my ogres by a different halfling team. It was shaming.

[5150]

I haven't got around to getting legendary yet but having only played 3rd ed. I'm worried about the fragmentation of the Undead teams resulting in all of them being largely crap

[eldaec]

Necromantic and Undead generally feature toward the top of the win/lose stats.

Khemri and espeicially Vampire are considered 'special' teams providing 'additional challenge'.

[Modern Angel]

There's a Vampire bug, I hear, involving not being able to hypnotize. So I'd avoid them. I have a Necromantic team that did alright.

[Falconeer]

So, LEAGUE TIME!

I need to do things seriously this time around. I am tempted to open a new thread to better keep track of things, but I'm a fetishit and I like long winded stuff with a history.

New "league only" thread?

And, who is up? For real! Legendary Edition only (unless you mob me back into regular).

[eldaec]

Damn game isn't even available for another 4 hours.