Blood Bowl - for real

[Astorax]

Falconeer, you have to manually unregister the game from old installs to gain back the slot.  I believe there's even a handy shortcut from the start menu folder to do it.  Yes, it's a pain.  Yes, they realize it's a pain.  No, it wasn't Cyanide's choice.  Focus is the worst publisher in the history of publisher.  I actually had one of their marketing guys email me back because I was making them look like fucking retards on the Bloodbowl website.

Having said that, if you reuse coaches it basically means we'll never be able to, as new coaches, play a finesse team and have a snowball's chance in hell of being competitive...which is fine, just know that's the call you guys are making if you reuse the teams from last season.  The problem is finesse teams rely on being able to get ahead of the skill curve with wins and SPP...if the team's a season behind, there's not a snowball's chance in hell of making it. :)

[Falconeer]

If you can't unregister an install cause old computer(s) went to hell you are screwed (edit: not screwed as you can yell them in mail and get it unscrewed. Still, what if they discontinue the game at some point, no one rplies your emails and it gets unscreweable?). That's what happened top me. One installed computer went to hell, the other two just refused to unregister. "Unknown error". Seriously.

[Demonix]

I'm in for league play.

[Astorax]

Yeah, that's pretty much lame.

At least they've been pretty good (from what I've seen) of just handing out more installs to people without too many questions when the shit goes bad.

[sidereal]

But to Falconeer's point, and it bears repeating, if they go under then there's nobody there to hand out more installs.  In 10 years if you still want to fire you up some Blood Bowl and whoops, no more installs and they've shit the bed in the global econopocalypse, you better hope you can find a crack somewhere.  Otherwise, you can't play the game you bought.

Anyone know if the Steam version also contains the shitty DRM?  I have more faith in Valve than Cyanide.

[NowhereMan]

Traditionally don't companies with that sort of DRM, if they're about to go under, issue patches that remove that limitation from the game? I mean it's entirely possible that they won't just like it's possible that they won't go under (hopefully not) but it doesn't seem like an end of the world thing.

[Aez]

Can you burn the install file or torrent a working version?  Your online account linked to CDKey is what you really need.

[sidereal]

Who said end of the world?  It's not about whether it would be physically possible to continue playing your game if you jump through some hoops (or maybe it's not possible!  who knows?!)  It's about what level of hoop-jumping is appropriate when you just dropped a bunch of money on the game and the pirates are giggling and playing to their hearts' delight.  The answer is that the appropriate level is 0.  0 Jumps.  I want to be able to say 'I want to play Blood Bowl' in 10 years and be playing it within half an hour.  

One reason I'm okay with Steam even though it's got its own sort of DRM is that it's actually FEWER hoops to jump through than going into my basement and finding which scratched up disk has an old game on it, then trying to find the patches online.  But if in 10 years it won't let me install because it phoned home to some nonexistant server to see if I have enough SecuROM installs left, and my solution is to e-mail someone and wait a day (read the Cyanide forums.  This is happening right now, much less 10 years from now) to maybe get it resolved, or hunt down an official crack somewhere that's probably just a trojan anyway, then that's too many jumps EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

So no, I won't buy a game that has that shitty little envelope around it.

[Der Helm]

Can you burn the install file or torrent a working version?  Your online account linked to CDKey is what you really need.

The pop-up that demanded that I enter my serial-number (which I actually found, yay!) scared me, so I have to wait for their customer support to get back to me.

[Falconeer]

I burned the file. But to INSTALL, it has to connect to their server to get an authorization. I don't know how it works but no, doesn't matter what yoiu saved Without their online authorization nothing works, even if you burned the original files OR the folder with the pre-installed game. Pathetic.

[Der Helm]

Ok, got it installed, but I can't play online...

Their customer support remains silent, so far...

[Aez]

With some luck Steam might recognize the serial number and let you get the game.

[Llyse]

Soooooooooooo 

People bored of playing Dark Elf on Dark Elf rapefests?

 

[Demonix]

Soooooooooooo 

People bored of playing Dark Elf on Dark Elf rapefests?

 

Screw da elves, I've got a chaos team! 

No muties yet, tho :(

[Hoax]

Well? Well?  Welllllll?

Also if anybody wants to get some practice games in pm me, find me on Steam, find me on LoL or find me on vent.

[Demonix]

Playing a campaign (turn based), I've noticed that the computer likes to try dodge a lot.  A LOT.  Makes sense for gobbos, not so much for orks.

Speaking of the league, is it going to be real time or turn based?

[Megrim]

Ugh, turn based. Real-time doesn't exist as far as Blood Bowl players are concerned. Well, at least the 'serious' ones anyway. Also, i highly recommend reading the documentation provided with the game if you haven't already. Having a basic understanding of the rules, tackle zone modifiers, strength assists on blocks, basic rolls involved, etc, makes a huge difference.

[Teleku]

Arg, missed the thread rez.  I'll probably buy this on steam soon, would like to join the league.

[Llyse]

I've pmed Hoax for his SteamID, pm me if you're interested in some friendly games

[Falconeer]

I've been slacking, I am sorry. Personal real life stuff.

I'll come up with a serious League #2 post in a couple of days. I am still deeply hurt that League #1 fell 2 matches out of 28 short of completion though.

[Der Helm]

I've been slacking, I am sorry. Personal real life stuff.

I'll come up with a serious League #2 post in a couple of days. I am still deeply hurt that League #1 fell 2 matches out of 28 short of completion though.

Well, I can't play online at the moment, because the tech support (or any of the emails mentioned on the forums) answers my e-mails.

Which is a shame really, my lizzards would have ripped Aez's team appart. 

[proudft]

Put me in, coach!  By the time the league gets set up, I'll probably have figured out what to play.  Tried lizard men, dark elves, skaven, chaos, and humans so far. 

[Ingmar]

I could probably do this too if the time zones work out, I tend to play late Pacific time though.

[Demonix]

True story:

I was playing a single player campaign last night vs an orc team, who hired varag ghoul chewer for one game(really good star player from back in the day).

Well, someone must have slipped him some bad beer, because he couldn't make a dodge roll to save his life, and he tried 5 times.  Every time he would go down and end up stunned.  He threw a couple of blocks but ended up on the ground.  It was...comical.

We also spent 3 turns bobbling the ball bewteen us, no one could pick up the damn thing, lol.

Waste of 240k gold on thier part, but I don't know how the computer ends up having so much money to spend, unless its tied to the difference in team value (like the cards in the board game).

Also:  anyone else notice that computer REALLY likes to dodge?  its strange, because its completely opposite to how I've seen it played out in the board game. 

Also also:  Current casualty record - 6 vs wood elves.  VENGANCE!

[proudft]

Waste of 240k gold on thier part, but I don't know how the computer ends up having so much money to spend, unless its tied to the difference in team value (like the cards in the board game).

Yep, there's handicapping - that Inducements step in pre-game setup.

[Segoris]

Also also:  Current casualty record - 6 vs wood elves.  VENGANCE!

That's the one thing I've done well in this game, kill wood elves. Only got to 4 or 5 though before finally getting caught. I suck at the rest of the game, but when it comes to killing wood elves I take pride in doing it well and efficiently. Next time, I'm buying some refs and hoping I can win by some sort of slaughter rule after killing their entire team.

[Demonix]

Also also:  Current casualty record - 6 vs wood elves.  VENGANCE!

That's the one thing I've done well in this game, kill wood elves. Only got to 4 or 5 though before finally getting caught. I suck at the rest of the game, but when it comes to killing wood elves I take pride in doing it well and efficiently. Next time, I'm buying some refs and hoping I can win by some sort of slaughter rule after killing their entire team.

You kind of have to, because they have a 2 turn scoring play, or a 1 turn with luck.  first time I went up against wood elves, they beat me 2-1, and the second time they ALMOST did it on the last turn but they failed thier push roll to get into the end zone, thank god.

So you kick em down and keep em down.

Also, my guys arent very sneaky, my current record is 3 ejections :)  Helooooo chaos!

[Kail]

Well, I think I'm getting better at this game.  I can beat the computer on Easy mode, anyway.  But not with Goblins.  Anyone know how the hell you're supposed to play them?  The documentation goes on about how you can afford a million of them, but you can't field more guys than the other team has, and goblins get the shit kicked out of them by anything else, so having a dozen guys on the bench does me no good when I only have half as many players on the field due to slaughtering.  The secret weapon units are okay, but they get sent off after the next kick.  The Troll is decent, but spends half his turns picking his nose.  Tossing goblins seems to be the computer's strategy, but you have to make, like, nine rolls, or it ends up planting your Goblin and leaving the ball rolling gently to a stop at the feet of your opponent's runner.  They can't pass, can't run, can't block... how do you play as them?

[Hoax]

If you have 2 trolls and secret weapon your team is actually really scary for the other team.  But they are not designed to be balanced, they are without a doubt weaker then the other teams.

[NowhereMan]

Goblins basically are all about high risk/high reward plays that generally result in getting stomped but sometimes give you unstoppable plays. That and fouling, basically you use the secret weapons one at a time, hope you can do a lot of damage to the other team and foul everyone and everything that's lying down.

[Demonix]

Was doing some reading, found out that casualties that occur during fouling no longer give SPP (both game and new BB rules).  I am one sad chaos coach, we need all the SPP we can get!

[carnifex27]

If the next league hasn't started yet I'll throw my doorven hat in the ring.  I am bobby1328 on steam.  (don't try and chat me..... I'm really shy, then I talk a stupendous amount of shit)

[Azazel]

Was doing some reading, found out that casualties that occur during fouling no longer give SPP (both game and new BB rules).  I am one sad chaos coach, we need all the SPP we can get!

Nooooooooooooo!

[Hoax]

Fouls have been nerfed insanely hard now, you basically don't foul while the game is in reach to win except in the rarest of circumstances now.

[Teleku]

Bought the game, and am enjoying it.

HOWEVER

It is beyond god damn stupidly hard to just pick up the ball.  At least for me.  Because my guys keep screwing up picking up the fucking ball over and over and OVER again.