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on: December 18, 2008, 11:19:49 AM

So I ordered some new parts for a nice upgrade to my PC,  new mobo, Core DUO cpu, video card, 8 gigs ram, and vista.  (the home premium 64 bit OEM version )  I have 3 hard drives. 

c: Older SATA drive with XP installed and some games. 250 gigs
d: 100 gig IDE drive with random shit on it
G: 500 Gig with 200 gig free.  no installs on it.

Can I just install Vista on the G drive without fucking everything up?

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Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 11:21:02 AM

Get rid of XP and just run vista. With 8 GB of RAM, there's just no reason to keep running XP.
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Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 11:30:44 AM

Install Vista on the HD you want.  Do not hook up any of the other HDs.  Once the OS is up and running hook up everything else and wipe the HD with XP on it.
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Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 11:40:28 AM

Get rid of XP and just run vista. With 8 GB of RAM, there's just no reason to keep running XP.

Amen.  Vista got a bad rap.  It's a good OS, just not as mind blowing as the leap from Win98 to XP (if you skipped Win2K).

From what I've heard about Windows 7 I'll be on it like stink on a monkey.
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Reply #4 on: December 18, 2008, 11:42:44 AM

You can install it on whatever drive you want and Vista will see it's home drive as C and XP will see it's (other) home drive as C. It's as if the second OS install isn't there at all.

I will note for the first time, I'm actually having luck with Vista. I think the nvidia drivers are finally all there.

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Reply #5 on: December 18, 2008, 01:05:45 PM

The key think I'm concerned about is losing data on whatever drive I install it on.  sounds like that won't be an issue as long as I don't format it during the install.

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Reply #6 on: December 18, 2008, 01:59:04 PM

True.
Install it on your fastest drive.

What do you people use 8 gigs of ram for anyway? I don't think I've ran anything on my home pc this year that topped 2.
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Reply #7 on: December 18, 2008, 03:14:40 PM

True.
Install it on your fastest drive.

What do you people use 8 gigs of ram for anyway? I don't think I've ran anything on my home pc this year that topped 2.

It's an ego thing. When I was your age, I was thrilled when I bought a 2 gig HARD DRIVE!

 RAM is 10 bucks a gig, so why not?  I could load an entire DVD into memory!  Ehrn

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Reply #8 on: December 18, 2008, 03:25:22 PM

Two GIG!?

I remember upgrading to a 40 megabyte drive and being ecstatic about doubling my space. Get off my lawn!

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #9 on: December 18, 2008, 03:30:16 PM

Luxury!
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Reply #10 on: December 18, 2008, 05:14:37 PM

Two GIG!?

I remember upgrading to a 40 megabyte drive and being ecstatic about doubling my space. Get off my lawn!

I was happy when we upgraded from 5 1/4 to a regular floppy drive. undecided
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Reply #11 on: December 18, 2008, 05:35:46 PM

Newb. I was happy to get 80 columns of text on my screen.
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Reply #12 on: December 18, 2008, 09:21:56 PM

I was happy when we upgraded from 5 1/4 to a regular floppy drive. undecided

I saved my paper route money for a year to buy a C64.  The next year I finally got the disk drive for it from my same paper route.  What did I do in that intervening year, you ask?  I'd load Alakbeth from a cassette tape.  This could take a half hour to 45 minutes.
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Reply #13 on: December 19, 2008, 04:32:26 AM

I was happy when we upgraded from 5 1/4 to a regular floppy drive. undecided

I saved my paper route money for a year to buy a C64.  The next year I finally got the disk drive for it from my same paper route.  What did I do in that intervening year, you ask?  I'd load Alakbeth from a cassette tape.  This could take a half hour to 45 minutes.

Load "Jumpman" ,8,1

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Reply #14 on: December 19, 2008, 06:13:23 AM

Newb. I was happy to get 80 columns of text on my screen.
Newb. I was happy to have a screen.



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Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 09:13:29 AM

Huh.  It looks like an FT-IR we had back when I was in school.  I wonder if they recycled the cases once punch cards were no longer common.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 09:16:45 AM

Baldrake wins. smiley
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Reply #17 on: December 19, 2008, 10:39:43 AM

Get rid of XP and just run vista. With 8 GB of RAM, there's just no reason to keep running XP.

Unless you want to play older games. I have a Vista/XP dual-boot pretty much exclusively for Homeworld 2. (Before you ask, yes, I tried compatibility mode first.)

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Reply #18 on: December 19, 2008, 11:13:49 AM

Noobs!  I had to listen for the gaps between screeches to figure out when to cload my homemade Oregon Trail clone

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Reply #19 on: December 19, 2008, 11:13:59 AM

Get rid of XP and just run vista. With 8 GB of RAM, there's just no reason to keep running XP.

Unless you want to play older games. I have a Vista/XP dual-boot pretty much exclusively for Homeworld 2. (Before you ask, yes, I tried compatibility mode first.)
I find it safer to just keep a laptop/another computer on hand for such a thing.
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Reply #20 on: December 19, 2008, 01:44:19 PM

If your using Windows Vista, will their be any noticeable difference between 6 gigs and 8 gigs of ram?  I'm starting to think about upgrading to, and if I do, I kind of want to get an Intel i7 processor, with the triple channel memory.  But of course, all the kits go in the order of 3 gigs, 6 gigs, and 12 gigs (which is beyond expensive).  I'm just not quite sure exactly how big of a hog Vista actually is (just know that everybody complains about it..).

Oh, and since I'm to lazy to go looking back through old Topics:  Is Vista Home Premium good enough for anything I'm going to need, or is there any reason to shell out for Ultimate edition (or any other version for that matter)?  I can't remember wtf the differences between them are anymore.

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Reply #21 on: December 19, 2008, 01:45:57 PM

Everyone doesn't complain about it. 4GB works fine with Home Premium. I've never had RAM issues.
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Reply #22 on: December 19, 2008, 02:44:16 PM

There's still a lot of driver problems with Vista.

I put Vista 64 on my new HTPC box.  My wireless card would drop every 20 minutes, and would refuse to reconnect (along with dropping a ton of packets before doing so).  The IR/Remote would jam up as if I was just holding down a button, forcing me to reboot.  My external 1gig hard drive would cause the OS to take an extra 2 minutes to boot.  Reverted back to XP, and everything's fine.

I still use Vista 64 on my laptop, but it BSOD's at least once a week, and a lot more often if I'm downloading a large file at high speeds.  I'm this close to changing this back to XP as well if I can't resolve the problems.

And if you need a copy of XP to play your old games, I'd recommend just installing VirtualBox.  it's a lot nicer than dual booting another OS.
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Reply #23 on: December 19, 2008, 02:51:35 PM

I haven't had any driver problems, though I'm on Vista 32. I am having a problem with my RAID, which *may* be driver oriented as I can't get anything to confirm I have a bad drive, but it just started in the last week and I've been running Vista for over a year now.

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Reply #24 on: December 19, 2008, 05:15:28 PM

I had problems with the intel chipset driver IH9 and my USB headset, but they seem to be ok in the current releases.

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Reply #25 on: December 20, 2008, 10:04:09 AM

2 new rigs, both running Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit, it is way better than Windows XP Pro 64 bit, mainly because Windows sorta dropped off on supporting the XP Pro version, had to scrounge around for drivers for lots of things (printers being a big one).  I'm running 4 gigs of ram, about the only thing that has been goofy has been the ASUS sound card.  A couple of updates took care of that though.

It has torn up games, but I haven't thrown a lot of fancy stuff at it yet. 


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Reply #26 on: December 20, 2008, 11:49:08 AM

The only issues I had with vistax64 were sound-card related, one due to shitty, shitty creaf drivers, the other due to Razer being slow. Both problems got resolved.
As for 6gig v 8gig, I think 6 will be plenty. I run 8gig with no swap, and haven't ever run out of memory.
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