This game is not WoW and people still seem to rather like it. Am I wrong?

[Cheddar]

Whenever I quit playing LotRO, it's because this is amplified a thousand times in the lone lands. Aside from the Weathertop instance, almost every solo/light group quest is exactly as you describe. Combine that with the LL's dreary atmosphere for 10+ levels and I start to burn out pretty bad.

North Downs.

[Stormwaltz]

Yeah, Lone-Lands was a low point in the game for me, too. Do the swack-load of quests at the Forsaken Inn (there's so much overlap you can get items for 3-4 quests off a single kill) and get out.

[Mrbloodworth]

The UI is horrible and can't be configured at all. This is just unforgiveable in 2008. You can move parts, but not other parts. And mostly all you can do is skin it. I don't want an aggro meter or a healbot that heals for me. I just want to be able to move the action bars in the middle a bit to the right so I can fit my chat window in the left lower corner. I want to tweak the icons so I can see when my buffs run out. Well I can't do that. I realize that's a bit trivial, but why put up with it when I don't have to. And someone still needs to teach Turbine what an icon is. Those aren't icons, they're very very small paintings and they all look alike particularly if you're trying to keep track of buffs or debuffs.

Not that i agree with you (i don't, the UI is possibly one of the best, perhaps because of its limitations. And didn't turbine invent the Modern MMO UI, that all other games have copied since.), but...... Check it out.


Short version, there was a UI revamp/upgrade in the works for moria, it didn't happen. It is still coming however. No ETA, i suspect it will come in one of this years books.

[Feaniad]

I just hopped back into LOTRO for the first time since I left Nov 07.  I sure like it a lot more now.  They seem to have fixed a TON of the graphic glitches I was getting.  Survivability some classes seems better now too.

I have begun to see a pattern.  Don't even bother to play games at release.  Wait a year or more then play.  You'll be happier for it.

Gawd I should have done that with WAR.

[Yegolev]

I don't seem to have the same aggro problems as Num, in fact I am a huge cross-country traveler.  Roads are for chumps.  It's not like damn EQ.  Here, I can outrun everything, some things are not aggressive, and some give you warning before they attack (boars, bears, etc).  Maybe it's class choice, I don't know.

The Forsaken Inn quests, and the next town of Ost Gumby, are apparently there for XP gain only.  Lone Lands should be called Leveling Lands.  The quests are not terribly interesting but you can load up with seven of them that need more or less the same thing.  You go out and murder twenty goblins, lynxes, boars, orcs, and wargs, pick up some garbage from some ruins, then turn it all in at once for 6000xp (if you do these when they are yellow/white).  Repeat for more XP.  If you get bored, go do the now-green Epic quests that made you pull out your hair previously, or just go dick around somewhere else.  When I get bored with one thing, I seem to always find something else interesting to do.

If you try doing all of the quests in one area before moving on, that is incredibly tedious.

[Mrbloodworth]

If you try doing all of the quests in one area before moving on, that is incredibly tedious.

Coming from some one who did every pie run and every postal job in the shire. 


=p



did to, got my perfect pie!

[Yegolev]

If you try doing all of the quests in one area before moving on, that is incredibly tedious.

Coming from some one who did every pie run and every postal job in the shire. 

I, too, have my special pie.  I'm not at all normal, and if I found doing 100% of Shire quests and deeds to be a tad tedious, I expect most normal MOG players would find such a thing to be a subscription-breaker.  I haven't been able to stick to just Bree-land shit since moving out of the Shire.  My advice for most people is to whore around.  There's a lot to do, so go do it.

[sidereal]

It's a real problem if you're a completionist.

I like to accept all of the quests I find and finish all of my quests before they go grey.  Wasn't a problem for elves, dwarves, and humans, but The Shire was brutal.  I was completely burned out of running between Overhill and Tookborough before I was even halfway done.

[Mrbloodworth]

Its near imposable to do all the quests in each zone before they turn grey. Save them for an alt.

[Yegolev]

It's a real problem if you're a completionist.

I do agree, but I'm not really concerned about doing them before they turn grey.  It still satisfies my completionist urge, I get some XP and the same story.  Last night, for example, I took my level 24 hunter to kill Red Reaver, which took less than ten minutes solo counting the travel time.

I don't care to save them for an alt very much, although they are more entertaining when you can't just blow through them, so I am doing virgin runs through the dwarf quests with my RK dwarf alt.  The elf ones, however, I am doing with my hobbit hunter since I don't have any immediate plans to roll an elf.  Bree-land, I'm doing with my hobbit as well since the Epic line leads me there, and I got my fill of Archet during alpha/beta.

[Tarami]

I went back to WoW to make use of that 10-day WotLK trial. I used to smack meself some good Warcrack a year and a half ago and thought it would be interesting to see how it held up after getting some perspective on things. I quit at 65, so I was still in Outlands.

I can just say wow. Questing in WoW sucks balls, even in Burning Crusade. I'm a little surprised actually and find it curious how all the little believable things LotRO does make all the difference.

Oh, and about that thing with having mobs aggro you everywhere you go.... I don't know, but when during my little revisit in WoW I seriously missed having my ass handed to me whenever I took a wrong turn. Yeah, it pisses me off massively at times, but having to actively track down bad guys to kill them just feels wrong.

[Mrbloodworth]

The UI is horrible and can't be configured at all.

[trias_e]

After trying an elven lore-master and feeling very meh about it, I settled down on a hobbit burglar.  Burglar is definitely the most fun I've had in this game so far.

I really actually like the shire.  I don't mind there being 'too many' quests whatsoever.  I like the variety, and dare I say, serenity involved in the shire. 

However, I will say that the chicken quests got old fast. 

[Yegolev]

Chicken quests have been tabled until I have gone to each region as a real player.

I really cannot recommend anyone start out with a loremaster.  I did and I was very MUH about this game until I tried something else.  I have not tried a burglar but I love the hunter, guardian and runekeeper.

[Stormwaltz]

Chicken quests are good for a quick laugh, but if you're looking to get any lasting award, you have to do the most punishing chain of run-around quests every conceived of in an MMG. I don't exaggerate. And all you get in the end is a funky cloak anyway.

I started as a Loremaster, and loved it. The classes that left me feeling meh were the Champion (too Easy Button to be interesting) and the Burglar (takes five minutes to kill something blue to you).

[sidereal]

After having gone up to at least 15ish with each class, Warden is by far my favorite, because charging someone while throwing javelins then shouting and jump-spearing them never, ever, ever gets old.  The thousandth time I did it, I thought 'wow, that's badass'.

[Cheddar]

Chicken quests are good for a quick laugh, but if you're looking to get any lasting award, you have to do the most punishing chain of run-around quests every conceived of in an MMG. I don't exaggerate. And all you get in the end is a funky cloak anyway.

I started as a Loremaster, and loved it. The classes that left me feeling meh were the Champion (too Easy Button to be interesting) and the Burglar (takes five minutes to kill something blue to you).

You get an awesome chunk of destiny points as well - doing the first 2 or 3 is extremely useful for a boost (bonus XP 4tw!)

[Soln]

Re. UI

Is there any way to make the Group Vitals bar go in a horizontal direction?  As a Mins I really wish I could get my bars even more customized.  This is the first MMO where's I've played a healer as my main and I can really see the need to have a more customizable setup to be effective/survive.

[Yegolev]

I started as a Loremaster, and loved it. The classes that left me feeling meh were the Champion (too Easy Button to be interesting) and the Burglar (takes five minutes to kill something blue to you).

I agree with you, actually, but in my case I just don't do the CC classes well.  I don't care for them and they confuse me.  Definitely a group class... as far as LotRO has group classes.

[AcidCat]

I quit WoW a couple weeks ago and found myself itching for some kind of mmo replacement, so I went ahead and picked up LOTRO with the expansion. Having only played the beta back when I was still pretty into WoW, it seems better than I remember. Somehow more relaxing to play. And it's really wonderful to be a newbie again and not know what's over that next hill. Sampled some classes and think I'll be sticking with Warden.

[Yegolev]

Brandywine?

[AcidCat]

Landroval 

[Mrbloodworth]

Landroval 

 

[AcidCat]

Yeah I only noticed this subforum today so I didn't know. You guys have something special going on there on Brandywine? I can always reroll.

[Cheddar]

Yeah I only noticed this subforum today so I didn't know. You guys have something special going on there on Brandywine? I can always reroll.

A large kin with an extremely large range of members - its kinda the f13 default server right now.

[AcidCat]

Nice. My dude is only level 6 anyway, no loss. I'll look for somebody once I get situated.

[AcidCat]

Well if anyone's around tonight I'll be on as Mossey.

[Mrbloodworth]

Not sure who, i was in a rush, but i added someone from f13 last night.

[Bandit]

That was me, Bravade the Captain, just added profile in Roll Call

[Mrbloodworth]

Sweet, welcome aboard. Make sure to visit the Kinhouse, the stuff in the chests are for kin, take some, leave some, add some.

[Cheddar]

Let us know if you need anything.  We have a couple high end crafters.

[Bandit]

Let us know if you need anything.  We have a couple high end crafters.

Cheers, going to start working on my getting my Cook up tonight, I was a GM before the expansion...but really haven't delved into crafting again.

[AcidCat]

The more I explore the world the more I appreciate it ... I really liked WoW's world but this feels even more like a real world and less like different themed zones in an amusement park. Clearly I didn't give LOTRO the chance it deserved when I played back in beta.

[Cheddar]

Let us know if you need anything.  We have a couple high end crafters.

Cheers, going to start working on my getting my Cook up tonight, I was a GM before the expansion...but really haven't delved into crafting again.

I am working on Weapon Crafting this evening (going scholar on my main, mini.  Already have max jeweler).  Marween is maxed on a bunch of crafting skills and loves it. 

Cook is EXTREMELY handy to have - food makes a HUGE difference and "me love you long time" if you can provide high end food.

[Soln]

daily fish skill.  Cap. Gah.   

Also, Social Titles you can grind with a friend --  5 times/day for 20 days (needs 100 emotes).

All titles (more or less) here.