Patches 1.1a-d Have Arrived

[raydeen]

Q: What do you get for being RR80?
A: 1 Renown point, 1 Passive ability

 

whee.

[fuser]

Q: What do you get for being RR80?
A: 1 Renown point, 1 Passive ability

 

whee.

Nah, http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/702/slototh67gf4.jpg, current renown -2147483648%

[Hindenburg]

And +20% on pvp damage. Clearly a completely balanced perk.

[Nebu]

And +20% on pvp damage. Clearly a completely balanced perk.

Please tell me this is a joke.  If you get a 20% damage adjustment, then Mythic really has learned nothing.  It's just going to create another environment of gank groups dominating gameplay until your subscriber base is nothing but gank groups. 

[Bismallah]

It's right, I saw the screenshot. +20% damage

Just wait till those BWs/Sorcs/WEs get a hold of that!! Whew. Doesn't even have an icon since they thought no one would do it that fast, hah.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4300/slototh65cr4.png

[Nebu]

It's right, I saw the screenshot. +20% damage

Anyone that saw the disparity that having all the relics caused in DAoC will know how stupid an idea this is.  Christ, this is worse than history repeating itself. 

Wow... just wow.

[Bismallah]

Nebu, get out of my head. I said the exact same thing. "Oh great, that guy just got both power relics" Awesome job. Now everyone will grind out the Keeps and BOs quicker to get 20% added damage ALL THE TIME.

I hope we see some Ironbreaker get RR80 and he gets 20% damage reduction to you all the time sort of passive ability. If not, this game is going to turn into a massive frag fest dropping players quicker then Healers can keep them up.

Great job.

But as Paul said here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7804564.stm

"Basically, war is everywhere" Quite a change from his ranting and raving in the past about WAAAAAAAGHHH WAR is everywhere!!! YEEEAAAHH!

Oh and this is a doozy: "I expect to see some large studios go under and some big name titles fail."

Methinks Paul has seen the subscription numbers, haha.

[Threash]

WTF is someone whos already rr80 gonna do anyways? that guy is 2 days of playing an alt away from a canceled sub.

[Shatter]

I know this guy doesnt have a job or school to contend with.   People who play a lot in my guild, the highest is RR64 and he has no job or school and basically plays all day practically.  He doesnt even have an alt yet.  As a WH at RR49 I couldnt imagine a +20% dmg bonus cause I F*ck stuff up now lol.  Gimme that bonus and I wont have to try

[Threash]

I wonder if the bonus is the same for all archetypes.  Maybe tank classes get -20% damage taken and healers +20% healing, which would blow for the ones going for dps.

[Nebu]

I wonder if the bonus is the same for all archetypes.  Maybe tank classes get -20% damage taken and healers +20% healing, which would blow for the ones going for dps.

Awesome.  Tanks taking 20% less damage while being healed for 20% more. 

"Hey Phil, what can we give players to make them feel like gods while simultaneously pissing off their opponents?  I know... let's use the old relic system!"

[Hindenburg]

Because, clearly, giving them "better" PVP armor, more carrer points, and extra tactics simply wasn't enough.

[waffel]

According to people on his server, the guy is a total douchebag. He constantly runs from all fights, bans people/guilds from his PvE warband if they suggest/fight other players, etc.

He also MADE A THREAD ABOUT HIMSELF GETTING RR80 AND ADDED A FAQ. How full of yourself do you have to be?

This is a hilarious disaster for humanity/warhammer. There are people in this world willing to devote 12 hours a day for 4 months playing a dogshit terrible game. Warhammer, on the other hand, is so bad that it only takes 4 months of PvEing keep doors and NPCs to get the highest PLAYER VS PLAYER rank. And didn't mythic 'claim' it would take at least 2 y ears to get RR80?

[BitWarrior]

According to people on his server, the guy is a total douchebag. He constantly runs from all fights, bans people/guilds from his PvE warband if they suggest/fight other players, etc.

He also MADE A THREAD ABOUT HIMSELF GETTING RR80 AND ADDED A FAQ. How full of yourself do you have to be?

This is a hilarious disaster for humanity/warhammer. There are people in this world willing to devote 12 hours a day for 4 months playing a dogshit terrible game. Warhammer, on the other hand, is so bad that it only takes 4 months of PvEing keep doors and NPCs to get the highest PLAYER VS PLAYER rank. And didn't mythic 'claim' it would take at least 2 y ears to get RR80?

Very subjective. Yes, he made a thread about getting RR80. He's a world first, it's certainly an achievement, I see nothing wrong about this. Guilds post "World First" kills all the time; do you complain about that, too? He posted a FAQ as people, quite predictably mind you, had questions. I'm sure many of these questions were asked frequently. Thus, frequently asked questions. *Astound*

This isn't a disaster for humanity nor Warhammer, unless you are only saying that to sensationalize. It is neither here nor there, it simply "is". He wanted to play 12 hours a day for 4 months, fine, he did. There are many WoW players who have done the same and, quite obviously, it was never bad for the game. The fact that he did a lot of PvE'ing to get the highest PvP rank is ironic, although understandable given the current nature of PvP in Warhammer.

Regarding it taking around 2 years, you're really putting the blinders on here. 59 days played, 1416 hours invested. Assuming an "average" of 3 hours per day of play, this would take an "average" person 472 days to finish, or 1.3 years, but that's assuming 7 days a week. Assuming the "average" player will player perhaps 3 hours a day for perhaps 6 days a week, it would take roughly 79 weeks to finish, or roughly 1.5 years. Additionally, as you said he played in such a way to maximize his RR gain. An average player wouldn't be doing that, and thus the 2 year mark seems, quite honestly, right on the money.

Obviously, you don't like the game. I dropped the game 3 weeks after I bought it and haven't looked back. However, to sensationalize non-events like this and hail it as doom and gloom only serves to diminish the collective argument.

[UnSub]

And didn't mythic 'claim' it would take at least 2 y ears to get RR80?

Clearly they weren't ready for it, since NO ICON AVAILABLE.

[Bismallah]

I wonder if he got a statue? 

[Shatter]

"Obviously, you don't like the game. I dropped the game 3 weeks after I bought it and haven't looked back. However, to sensationalize non-events like this and hail it as doom and gloom only serves to diminish the collective argument."


Well said.   This is exactly what people on this forum do.  Everything Warhammer is bad bad bad!  Its sad that some people here actually take their own time to look up stuff just so they can type up something negative about Warhammer, its like they are obsessed with wanting it to fail.  If you come here daily its the same people bashing over and over like an autistic kid beating himself over the head with a breadloaf. 

[Bismallah]

I think if anything it's more like people sitting at a bar drinking and talking about the game candidly. VN boards are chock full of fanbois who would love nothing more then to eat the table scraps from Mark. This forum closely mirrors the conversations that I have at home and at work with my friends about WAR and about other games in general.

That's why I come here. How about you?

[Special J]

Sooo, in a few months, in Tier IV you'll need to fill a massive poopsock to stand a chance at PvP?  Am I interpreting that right?

Well said.   This is exactly what people on this forum do.  Everything Warhammer is bad bad bad!  Its sad that some people here actually take their own time to look up stuff just so they can type up something negative about Warhammer, its like they are obsessed with wanting it to fail.  If you come here daily its the same people bashing over and over like an autistic kid beating himself over the head with a breadloaf. 

If you like like, there's VN Boards, or Warhammer Alliance.  Everything is awesome there.

[HaemishM]

Well said.   This is exactly what people on this forum do.  Everything Warhammer is bad bad bad!  Its sad that some people here actually take their own time to look up stuff just so they can type up something negative about Warhammer, its like they are obsessed with wanting it to fail.  If you come here daily its the same people bashing over and over like an autistic kid beating himself over the head with a breadloaf. 

Hmmm. Based on your posts, it would seem you only post in this Warhammer Online board, telling me you know fuckall about this board and community as a whole, and are only judging it based on what you read here. Perhaps you are just a cockgobbling Mythic fanbois, or just so invested in this game not collapsing on its own failures that you cannot see valid criticisms of some really poor decision-making. How can you judge this board if you don't even partake of the other discussions on the board? You obviously want to criticize this community for their, to your mind, unwarranted criticisms of Warhammer, and yet you are ignorant of the rest of the board.

Or in other words, continue to choke on Jacobs' cock just so we want have to hear you talk about how this game is the bestest ever and we are just negative Nancies who just want the game to fail.

[Jherad]

Well said.   This is exactly what people on this forum do.  Everything Warhammer is bad bad bad!  Its sad that some people here actually take their own time to look up stuff just so they can type up something negative about Warhammer, its like they are obsessed with wanting it to fail.  If you come here daily its the same people bashing over and over like an autistic kid beating himself over the head with a breadloaf. 

Why do you come here? No, seriously - why? Post something, and expect to get argued with. If you can't take that, you're seriously in the wrong place. If you think people are wrong, call them out on it - just expect to be asked to back up your statements with a cogent argument, or you run the risk of being ripped apart. Nobody says you can't like Warhammer.

Edit: And yeah, shitting on this forum community is just going to get you torn up, whatever your 'argument'.

[fuser]

Its sad that some people here actually take their own time to look up stuff just so they can type up something negative about Warhammer, its like they are obsessed with wanting it to fail. 

Research is bad!

[Goreschach]

There needs to be some kind of doubleplus graveyard for this subforum to be sent to.

[Jherad]

And miss the fun discussion of Paul Barnett's next youtube video? Philistine.

There's still life in the donkey. Heck, they might even fix it up.

Speaking of which - that XP requirement tweak. Noticeable, but not nearly enough. I'm messing around with alts while I wait for my better half to get bored, and tier 3 still requires trips to multiple racial pairings in order to advance through quests and whatever scenarios pop. I'm one of those weird freaks who actually reads the quest text, and that's a complete immersion killer.

[Soulflame]

I wondered how long you people were going to cut that astroturfing douchebag some slack.  You people have gotten soft.

[raydeen]

I finally gave up and canceled last night. The breaking point? They still haven't fixed the client stability. I don't dig playing an online game where I get booted every 15 minutes and it takes at least another 3 to 5 to get back in. Now WoW has been a bit of a headache lately (ever since Lich King) with it's disco fever but I can be back in and playing within 30 seconds. I'm not even anywhere near the big 100 v 100 battles (or whatever WAR considers large scale conflict) and I can't even imagine the hell that would be. And the more I read about the grind and such, the less interested I am. Both WAR and Conan had 3 months to hook me in and both failed. They're like this crazy spanish candy I tried once. Sweet tasty mango outside and dog shit tasting chili flavor inside. I'm still trying to figure out if that candy was a joke or not. I'm not to sure about other cultures sometimes.

[waffel]

I keep up on the game and research different happenings because its a source of entertainment for me. Its possibly more fun than actually playing the game. Reading about some poopsocker playing 12 hours a day, or Mythic constantly fucking up the end game, or servers crashing nonstop, or a pure random contribution multiplier, or end game dungeons being dogshit terrible, etc.

I, personally, would love to see the game fail and fall flat on its face. In my mind, it deserves it. It started when Mythic pissed on every suggestion/bug fix/tweak I suggested to my darkness bonedancer way back when I beta tested SI in DAoC. I was literally the ONLY beta tester playing the class and yet none of my bug fixes/suggestion/improvement made it in the game, and the class stayed the exact same for years where the darkness line was never specced in. Then it was ToA, Mythic's total fuckup which killed the game for me and pretty much everyone I knew in game. Fast forward to me getting beta for warhammer, testing it for about 8 months, and realizing Mythic still didn't give fuckall about what the beta testers wanted or suggested. Locking threads for 'feedback' on a beta forum is the DUMBEST shit. Follow that up with a release of a... bad... game, followed by me getting banned for variable amounts of time from the game due to me saying 'shit' or other kind-of-bad-but-totally-avoidable-with-the-chat-filter words.

And really, if warhammer fails then maybe other devs will actually innovate and we'll see some new and exciting MMOs instead of the same old boring shit.

[Azazel]

"Obviously, you don't like the game. I dropped the game 3 weeks after I bought it and haven't looked back. However, to sensationalize non-events like this and hail it as doom and gloom only serves to diminish the collective argument."


Well said.   This is exactly what people on this forum do.  Everything Warhammer is bad bad bad!  Its sad that some people here actually take their own time to look up stuff just so they can type up something negative about Warhammer, its like they are obsessed with wanting it to fail.  If you come here daily its the same people bashing over and over like an autistic kid beating himself over the head with a breadloaf. 

Hi there. Hope you're enjoying f13.

Now fuck off, cunt.

I wondered how long you people were going to cut that astroturfing douchebag some slack.  You people have gotten soft.

"You people" can fuck right off, too. Cunt.

[waffel]

Mark Jacobs reminds me of I Am Legend.

I can just picture Mark sitting at his desk, all alone, looking at all the empty servers screaming "I CAN STILL FIX THIS!"

[Setanta]

 This is exactly what people on this forum do.  Everything Warhammer is bad bad bad! 

You can take a shit sandwich, add salad, maybe vary the bread, add a garnish, possibly include a frosty beverage to wash it down, but ultimately you are still eating shit. That is what Mythic are getting you to do.

I still log onto the game now and then and it's still crap. It was fun on release, but its flaws are obvious and it should never have been released in the state it was in.

I doubt anyone here wants the game to fail, but the refreshing thing about this site is the distinct lack of fanboism unless a product is actually good. More to the point, people identify the issues, something Mythic in their arrogance ignore across all of the forums.

Why did you bother posting? Obviously you should be over at VN talking about the positives rather than here trying to convert people who are disillusioned with the game.

[waffel]

Two melee dps classes are coming!

[LW] Can we expect anything big to roll out this week or anytime in the future that you could say? Are lips sealed?

[Andy] I can say we have some big plans coming down the pipe. We’ve got some great things that I’m sure players are going to be very happy about. I wish I could give you some specifics and let you know exactly what they are. I know everybody knows the two melee dps classes are coming up. Definitely keep your eyes peeled on The Herald for announcement regarding that.

Sweet! Two new classes to level up! I'm resubbing ASAP!

[Triforcer]

Easy enough to predict.  Orc Choppa, of course.

And Dwarven Slayer, which everyone wanted as far back as '06.  The armor system for the Slayer will be magic tattoos. 

[ashrik]

The Ork Choppa and Dwarf Hammerer. It's just the remaining two cut classes.

(I think the problem with the Slayer being that they're supposed to die in the first big fight immediately after becoming a Slayer or something)

[UnSub]

I think Slayers are likely to die in their first fights because it is such dangerous work, but if they survive they can become absolute monster slaughter machines.

[Bismallah]

I highly doubt they keep the Hammerer because they eased the restriction of Hammers for Ironbreakers. Slayers can work off some mechanic where the more pissed they get in combat the more damage they take, works for Lore, works for the game, works for those people that want to WAAAAGH then die happy after shredding some poor caster, weeee.

So yes, they throw in two more classes to level up and keep people on retainer so they can keep spending money on developing their overhaul of T4.

Even if they pull out of this tail spin, they will NEVER reach the levels that Mark envisioned to be deemed "successful" in his and many other MMO publishers eyes. WAR flopped HARD it's first quarter. But hey, you can only go up from rock bottom!

Edit: Well the website says the Ironbreaker can use Hammers: Wields an axe or a hammer (also in the fancy dwarfen style) I had heard that they cut one of the two classes, either the Choppah or the Hammerer. Money is on the Hammerer... Slayers are already in the game in NPC form. They already have their starting area fleshed out in the game, T2-3 Dwarf story line takes you by there, AND they were in the Intro CGI promotional film thingie.