Hancock

[Margalis]

I don't know what it is about her. I can see why people find her attractive but she's never done anything for me at all. The same is true of Cameron Diaz.

[Ratman_tf]

Also I think Charlize Theron is kinda ugly. (Her knees are too sharp!)

You almost had me taking you seriously, despite disagreeing with everything you said. And then you went green.

Heh. I liked Hancock. But I'm gonna go with Margalis on CZ. She's got the body of a 19 year old nerd boy and one of those generic Revlon faces.

[Ratman_tf]

I don't know what it is about her. I can see why people find her attractive but she's never done anything for me at all. The same is true of Cameron Diaz.

Oh. Cameron Diaz has that kinda fun bubbly thing going on. And she's not quite as boyish as Charlize Theron. Not mind blowingly hot, but attractive, IMO.

[Hoax]

I don't know what it is about her. I can see why people find her attractive but she's never done anything for me at all. The same is true of Cameron Diaz.

Oh. Cameron Diaz has that kinda fun bubbly thing going on. And she's not quite as boyish as Charlize Theron. Not mind blowingly hot, but attractive, IMO.

Diaz was only hot in the Mask, everyone knows that where I'm from.  Not sure what happened after that.  What has me confused is that new preview where Dane Cook smacks whatsherface ass and it looks so damn good/huge.  Since we're speaking of blond not amazingly hot actresses.

*edit* imdb says Kate Hudson is who I'm thinking of.

[Surlyboi]

Charlize Theron is hot because she killed her own dad with a shotgun.

[Xuri]

Charlize Theron is hot because she killed her own dad with a shotgun.

I think that was her mother's doing. Unless that's just a cover-up story.

[Merusk]

I don't know what it is about her. I can see why people find her attractive but she's never done anything for me at all. The same is true of Cameron Diaz.

Oh. Cameron Diaz has that kinda fun bubbly thing going on. And she's not quite as boyish as Charlize Theron. Not mind blowingly hot, but attractive, IMO.

Diaz was only hot in the Mask, everyone knows that where I'm from.  Not sure what happened after that. 

She lost about 40 pounds and wound-up looking like a stick figure with no tits.

[Cyrrex]

She also was deliberately doing the blonde bomshell thing in The Mask, and it work well.  She was smoking hot in that movie.  Ever since then?  Not so much.

[Grimwell]

Necroposting for the win!

My wife pulled this up on Netflix via our Xbox and I decided to sit in.

This was not a great movie. It was not horrible either though.

I quickly likened the beginning of the film to some of the off the track comic book heroes of the late 80's and early 90's. Like Lobo in the 90's for instance. It was a chance to present a different kind of hero in film and still make good on it despite not being Spider Man 4, etc. Scripting and effects failed that.

The geek in me was distracted enough by the background story of the 'hero' to start sorting out what Gods they must have been, etc. so the second half had a chance, but the delivery was equally flawed.

I think it's a really good idea that was executed poorly. I know there won't be a second film, but I would give it a try to see if they could handle it better. That means I must not hate it.

[WindupAtheist]

Necro'd because I'd just as soon not make another thread.

So a guy wakes up in a hospital in the American south in 1928 with no memory and the powers of a god. And he's black. Am I the only one who saw this movie and thought the premise could/should have led to a MUCH more interesting story? 

[Tale]

Am I the only one

Yes. It's a comedy. It's uncomplicated.

[Evildrider]

Necro'd because I'd just as soon not make another thread.

So a guy wakes up in a hospital in the American south in 1928 with no memory and the powers of a god. And he's black. Am I the only one who saw this movie and thought the premise could/should have led to a MUCH more interesting story? 

It's like 2 movies.  The first half is pretty enjoyable, then it kind of goes  .

[WindupAtheist]

Oh come on, if you were Jason Bateman sitting across the table from Hancock when he said that he'd been hanging around since at least 1928, are you telling me something about WW2 wouldn't come out of your mouth within the next 60 10 seconds?

[schild]

Given that people in that world simply accepted the existence of superheroes, assuming World War II even happened is a little presumptuous.

Trying to decipher the lore in a Will Smith blockbuster is just unbelievably stupid and I'm shocked you would even go down that path. Shame on you, WUA. Shame on you.

[Tale]

Golf off the carrier was cool but I was sad when the dog died 

[WindupAtheist]

I try to decipher the lore in everything. Everything. It's like a disease. Plus if they had him living normal up until getting jumped and knocked amnesiac TEN OR TWENTY years ago it wouldn't have changed the movie and I probably wouldn't have really thought about it. Instead they just have him go "Yeah I was super throughout an entire period of history where my very existence would have a significant impact on society, but we won't acknowledge this even though how I interact with and am perceived by society is supposedly a major component of the plot!"

Know what else I wonder? I wonder what they did with the alien survivors in Independence Day. Like even if every single alien in every single big saucer died, because they flamed out pretty good, there still must have been plenty in the little fighters that managed to survive. What would they do with them? Kill them? Put them in camps? It's not like you can send them home or integrate them into society.

Help.

[Hindenburg]

Didn't they asphyxiate outside of the saucers?

[Slyfeind]

Nope, they breathe the same air we breathe. I figure there was some big land battle afterwards. "Happy Fourth of July, Daddy!" "Same to you, Pumpkin!" Then Will Smith goes "It ain't over yet!" and the Mortal Kombat theme plays and everybody gets busy with the rockem sockem alien ass kickin!

[Samwise]

The captured alien saucer at area 51 was nonfunctional until the mother ships arrived.  This suggests to me that they don't have their own power sources, and get all their energy beamed to them.  It's therefore entirely possible that all the fighters crashed and burned when the mother ships went up in flames.

[Hindenburg]

And a superadvanced alien fleet wouldn't equip their fighter saucers with parachutes? Unlikely.

[Samwise]

Why equip your saucers with parachutes if they're protected by invulnerable shields and have limitless power from the even more invulnerable mother ships?

The real question is why they didn't have any sort of security software on the mother ships.  

[WindupAtheist]

The captured alien saucer at area 51 was nonfunctional until the mother ships arrived.  This suggests to me that they don't have their own power sources, and get all their energy beamed to them.  It's therefore entirely possible that all the fighters crashed and burned when the mother ships went up in flames.

Ah, but that same captured saucer maintained power long enough after the destruction of said mothership for Smith and Goldblum to make a survivable landing in the vicinity of Area 51. The other alien fighters, given their less precarious situations and more experienced pilots, should have had it much easier.

[Samwise]

Point.  Maybe all the aliens were clustered tightly around the mother ships trying to defend them, rather than fleeing for their lives, and were obliterated in the explosions?

[WindupAtheist]

The deaths of the big saucers weren't really all THAT violent though. They basically boiled up in flame and went down in recognizable heaps, rather than going up like bombs and wiping out everything for miles. And let's not forget, Smith's saucer got hit by that giant shockwave from the destruction of the mothership and was still in good enough shape to make re-entry from space, so they're probably pretty sturdy.

[Tale]

The real question is why they didn't have any sort of security software on the mother ships.  

Because as far as I can tell, Independence Day was conceived as a black comedy, a preposterous parody of aliens invading and America saving the world again. Jeff Goldblum said so in an interview I saw in the UK: "I thought we were making a comedy". He was surprised when the studio made it into a blockbuster and had him promote it as such.

A swaggering fighter pilot hero white American president presumes to lead the world, while the black guy and the Jew save everyone with a laptop.

[schild]

the black guy and the Jew save everyone with a laptop.

So, basically, it was portent. Chances are this is what is going to happen within the next 3 years.

[Tale]

Instead they just have him go "Yeah I was super throughout an entire period of history where my very existence would have a significant impact on society, but we won't acknowledge this even though how I interact with and am perceived by society is supposedly a major component of the plot!"

BTW when you said black guy, deep south, superpowers in 1928, I thought you meant pwning racism, not pwning WWII.

[WindupAtheist]

I meant all of the above and more, really, but WW2 is the thing you really can't escape. I mean either you're the monstrous prick who let millions of people die because you were too good to just throw Hitler into the sun around 1938, or you go ahead and stomp Nazi ass and by 2008 the world has become some completely unrecognizable alt-history version of itself.

I mean I know it's not frigging Watchmen or something and that's not the movie they wanted to make. That's why it would have made a lot more sense to just have him wake up as a super amnesiac in like 1994 and not invite those kinds of questions in the first place.

As for him pwning racism, well, the movie basically walks up and says "Hello there, I'm Hancock, incredibly powerful and godlike superman who frequently reacts to disrespect from normal people with grossly disproportionate and/or violent responses. Where did I come from? Well I woke up in the American South in 1928. Why yes as a matter of fact I am black, why would that be of any interest?"

I'm normally the first one to say "STFU and watch the movie they made, not the one you wish they made!" but wow. I mean why put all that there if I'm not supposed to think about it at all? In most other regards it's not a particularly boneheaded "brain totally off plz" type of movie.

[Tale]

the black guy and the Jew save everyone with a laptop.

So, basically, it was portent. Chances are this is what is going to happen within the next 3 years.

Ha. I'm getting plenty more than nothing for my subscription dollars.

[schild]

the black guy and the Jew save everyone with a laptop.

So, basically, it was portent. Chances are this is what is going to happen within the next 3 years.

Ha. I'm getting plenty more than nothing for my subscription dollars.

Speaking of, we're never going to hit the renewal fees by October. Urgh.

[Cyrrex]

Mayhap you aren't being generous enough with nothing.

[Tale]

Speaking of, we're never going to hit the renewal fees by October. Urgh.

It just says "make a donation". Mindless internet self says "but I already subscribed". Better if it said "Schild only has 72% of the $x,000 hosting fees due in October, hlep!"

[schild]

Speaking of, we're never going to hit the renewal fees by October. Urgh.

It just says "make a donation". Mindless internet self says "but I already subscribed". Better if it said "Schild only has 72% of the $x,000 hosting fees due in October, hlep!"

I will do that on September 12th, one month from renewal.

[Tannhauser]

What amount do you recommend we donate? 

[schild]

Whatever you can! I never ask for specific amounts. Except last year, at the witching hour, when I knew exactly how much more was needed.