Game of Thrones [SPOILERS]

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[Merusk]

Yeah, Martin hasn't been subtle or tricky with any of his prophecies. He's left it up to the characters to misinterpret given the information they have at hand but laid it all out pretty clearly for the reader.

[Severian]

Eldaec is referring to the other prophesy. If both tie together then sure they rule out other alternatives, but if not, then not.

[eldaec]

I've seen people argue both, but agree that the savage giant in the snow castle is more likely.

[Shannow]

Its back...and a nice slow burn to start...oh and with a little random Hound violence to finish it up.

[Khaldun]

Hound and Arya stuff was hilarious. I vote that they scrap Martin's plot altogether and just keep that one developing as they see fit, because it's tone-perfect.

[Threash]

You forgot the best one:

[Setanta]

Good episode, shame they are no longer releasing it on iTunes where I was happy to hand over cash.

So instead I got to watch it earlier at a faster download speed.

[Rishathra]

Is there a legal way to watch this without having HBO?  I don't feel like waiting a year for the Blu-ray to come out this time.

[MahrinSkel]

Is there a legal way to watch this without having HBO?  I don't feel like waiting a year for the Blu-ray to come out this time.

No.  Even the seasons that have come out on DVD are not available for legal streaming outside of HBO Go (which requires a cable subscription).

--Dave

[jgsugden]

Is there a legal way to watch this without having HBO?  I don't feel like waiting a year for the Blu-ray to come out this time.

Make friends with someone with HBO and on demand access.  I have a dozen friends that come over and watch 10 episode marathons at my place.

[pants]

Hound and Arya stuff was hilarious. I vote that they scrap Martin's plot altogether and just keep that one developing as they see fit, because it's tone-perfect.

Yup, they need some type of Arya-and-the-Hound spinoff series.  Where they wander around Westeros murdering people.

[Threash]

Arya and the Hound, or Tyrion and Bronn, hell i would settle for Jamie and Brienne.

[Cyrrex]

I thought it was fairly slow for an opener, but no complaints.  The Arya/Hound stuff was great as always.  I am still chuckling to myself over the "cunts" lines.

[calapine]

Do we know what the Cersei part regarding the 'symptoms' and her references to 'you are too late' were about?  Did she screw anyone (as in, literally) lately?

Jamie doing frustrated metal-hand-wave to the non-Maester Qyburn me chuckle. 

Overall as other said typical opener episode, much setting up, slow place. If I had one complaint it was they could be a bit more subtle in times:

At the Tyrion welcoming ceremony I thought the second it started: "Oh...they didn't put him on a horse so he has to look up!" and then "Tyrion just said that new foreign guy is a badass. Now we will see a scene showing how badass he is!" 


All in all this show is really enjoyable when watched with a friend. Always turns into a game of "Who you'd like to sleep with?" 

[HaemishM]

Do we know what the Cersei part regarding the 'symptoms' and her references to 'you are too late' were about?  Did she screw anyone (as in, literally) lately?

Pretty much anyone that would... they dealt with her infidelities a lot in the 4th book and how that affected her relationship with Jamie. I don't remember mention of a pregnancy, though.

[Tebonas]

I suspected Lancel walking in on them any moment to make it clear for Jaime what she meant.

[Cyrrex]

I don't think there is any pregnancy involved.  Also, they played it up a little, but Cersei really, really, REALLY is not okay with Jaime's losing a hand.  As in, game over.  On the same token, Jaime is supposed to be far more devastated by it as well.  It is no small thing that the best swordsman in Westeros has lost his main sword hand.  He is a poor shadow of himself with his off-hand.

At least, this is how it is in my own head.

[eldaec]

I thought that was a really good episode. Lots of adaptation going on, the only scenes I remember as consistent with the book were Arya's and Jon's. Enjoyed the reasonably subtle references to what happens next.

Only misstep was reintroducing Dontos like that. I understand why they did it, but it came across like he was only there because they had realised at the last minute that they had no other way to deliver the plot device. The exchange in the godswood felt unearned.

[Threash]

Dontos was already introduced, they even showed it again on the previously on section.

[eldaec]

Yes, but it was a long time ago, a one time thing, and they gave his lines since that to someone else. Presumably because they forgot they needed dontos to obscure the actions of another player.

Wasn't a big deal, but that scene felt awkward. Possibly just because by now I'd assumed he had been written out.

Under the circumstances, I think I'd have had Shae take the Dontos part.

[Ironwood]

I too found that a little ' '

In addition, the recasting of the Dragon Woman Shagger was awful.  It threw me out every time.

[shiznitz]

I too found that a little ' '

In addition, the recasting of the Dragon Woman Shagger was awful.  It threw me out every time.

It was not just a recasting.  The character's demeanor changed as well, less swagger.

[Ironwood]

It was awful.

[schild]

FUCK, that dude was a recast? I was like "What happened to this character?" Goddamnit. The first guy was good.

Anyway, episode sucked given how the last season ended.

[Ghambit]

The new Daario is a serious downgrade, no doubt about it.   Upon checking, seems like the old-Daario (Skrein) got noticed and pulled the lead role in the next Transporter.  Kudos to him, he was pretty awesome.

[Yegolev]

Is there a legal way to watch this without having HBO?  I don't feel like waiting a year for the Blu-ray to come out this time.

HBO CEO has publicly announced that he doesn't care that people share logins.

[Ironwood]

HBO really is the best, eh ?

[Samwise]

It'd be the best if they had some sort of deal to get access to the streaming on its own without needing a full cable package.

[WayAbvPar]

6.6M viewers for the premiere. That is fucking staggering.

When is Showtime going to option Wheel of Time? It was the other 'big' fantasy series of the past 20 years, wasn't it? It would be well served by the medium, IMO- so much time wasted describing clothing, accents, peccadillos, etc- stuff that TV shows you in the background while other shit is going on.

[jgsugden]

WoT would work better as a movie series than a TV series. About 6 movies could handle it nicely, but a TV series of 120 hours would end up dragging into the annoying repetitive stuff that drove me away from the books.

[Merusk]

It was, and they wouldn't even if they could.  Not enough fodder for tits, blood and fucking which -let's face it- is the biggest draw of GoT, in addition to the "oh no, they didn't!" shake-em up of common tropes.

The series WOT was aimed at young adults/ juveniles and totally feels like that when you read it.  Plus it's 15 damn books long. Even cutting out a ton of the stupid side shit you're in for a long ass series run. Good luck with that!

Plus, I'm pretty sure they can't.  It's in production as a movie at the moment. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1277941/
Meaning that even if the project flops, it'll probably be tied-up in development hell until those rights expire. I don't mark Jordan or his wife as having been savvy enough to specify production rights were granted exclusively for a movie, letting them option TV separately.

[WayAbvPar]

I am just interested in seeing how many death threats whoever is cast as Nynaeve gets 

[shiznitz]

WoT would work better as a movie series than a TV series. About 6 movies could handle it nicely, but a TV series of 120 hours would end up dragging into the annoying repetitive stuff that drove me away from the books.

A WoT series should really end with book 4 when Rand fights Moradin (?).

[Teleku]

.....I assume you mean book 3, where he fought Ishamael.  Who became Moradin.  Who he fought at the end.   

And no, I believe the story would work best up through book six.  Then you could pretty much cut over to the Sanderson stuff and miss almost nothing important at all.