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Reply #4270 on: May 12, 2016, 01:57:08 PM

Theon

The fact that he is not there is actually a plot point in the books though.  As in the reason the entire thing was invalid.

Yeah, but not really a critical one. Theon could arrive after the Kingsmoot and be sent away, or Theon could even be the deciding voice and get the command as a reward.

When Theon returns stronger they can have him challenge the sitting king with one line of dialog.


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Reply #4271 on: May 12, 2016, 04:15:27 PM

Of course, whatever, it is bad television. They don't even show bewbs anymore :(
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Reply #4272 on: May 12, 2016, 04:20:26 PM



And after thinking about that, now I'm thinking about how they are going to cover the kingsmoot in 6 minutes tops. Le sigh.

I hope so. I found the Kingsmoot as pointless as Dorne in the books. I didn't need Martin to add yet more plot threads and more POV characters. I needed him to start tying off loose ends.

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Reply #4273 on: May 13, 2016, 12:16:23 AM

Ymmv, in the books I've long since accepted there is no way this ends well, so the world building is much more fun than another Jon or Dany episode that brings us closer to the inevitable.

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Reply #4274 on: May 14, 2016, 07:49:31 AM

It's credible enough. It's kind of painful to watch, but in a legitimate way. I am guessing he gets pretty brutally fucked over soon enough.



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Reply #4275 on: May 14, 2016, 04:57:37 PM

The GOT subreddit linked me to this:
http://imgur.com/a/SzmfL

Which, for me, explains some of the stupidity of the TOJ fight and the backstabbing. It's the directors trying to be clever with the call-backs to the last fight we saw with Ned. Yes it might be the internet looking into things too hard, but it seems to fit and I've accepted it as head canon until proven otherwise.

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Reply #4276 on: May 14, 2016, 05:32:26 PM

In the books, concerning the Tower of Joy, Ned said very specifically that he would be dead if not for Howland Reed.  This is the TV showing that.

Edit:  And actually looking back, in the TV series, Bran said to Jojen about his father: "He saved my fathers life during the Rebellion."  So, they are just closing the loops.  Not sure why people are reading much into it...
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Reply #4277 on: May 14, 2016, 06:39:23 PM

We're not, we're talking about how poorly executed it was compared to the characters themselves. Nobody's said, "Fuck that Reed didn't help."  we're saying, "well, the Reeds use spears and nets and tricks. That should have come in to play, not backstabbing."

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Reply #4278 on: May 15, 2016, 08:18:06 AM



 awesome, for real

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Reply #4279 on: May 15, 2016, 07:01:37 PM

What was that you guys said about her not being immune to fire? why so serious?

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Reply #4280 on: May 15, 2016, 07:13:02 PM

Gotta love Khaleesi when she goes the full Targaryen. That was a fun episode.

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Reply #4281 on: May 15, 2016, 07:26:00 PM

This episode should have been the first episode of the season.

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Reply #4282 on: May 15, 2016, 08:06:58 PM

So, under/over on
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Reply #4283 on: May 15, 2016, 08:09:18 PM

This episode sucked for my dreams of a fantasy league comeback.


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Reply #4284 on: May 15, 2016, 08:23:18 PM

Ok, so what the fuck, everybody here who was all like "Oh, Khaleesi is only immune to fire when she's hatching dragon eggs, very unusual and magical and normally not the case at all, not one bit". Go forecast US primary results, accuracy doesn't matter there.
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Reply #4285 on: May 15, 2016, 08:36:08 PM

Dude, we can only go by what Martin's said in t he past. Much like the rest of the season, that's all TV show writers right there.

We're way off the reservation now; just like Sansa and Jon reuniting, Sansa and Brienne, Theon back at home for the Kingsmoot, Rickon held by Ramsay. It's all show writers doing things at this point.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/15/11676666/game-of-thrones-dany-daenerys-fire-immune-recap


ed: Also, that was some wonky CGI face swapping at the end.
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Reply #4286 on: May 15, 2016, 08:57:37 PM

I did find it kind of funny that we were JUST talking about the one-off nature of Immunity From Fire and this is how the episode rolled.

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Reply #4287 on: May 16, 2016, 06:49:39 AM

Martin himself retconned that whole "fire immunity was a one time thing" in the books, she was on fire when she flew off on Drogon.

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Reply #4288 on: May 16, 2016, 07:37:34 AM

Definitely the best episode so far, glad to see the show actually moving things along.

ed: Also, that was some wonky CGI face swapping at the end.

I guess I'm not the one getting my tits out, but it seems that the distinction between being naked and having your head CGI'd onto a naked body double is a somewhat arbitrary one.

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Reply #4289 on: May 16, 2016, 07:44:55 AM

The scene looked weird to me also and i figured it was CGI like the walk of shame but she has claimed it was her.  I imagine it looked weird because everything around her was CGI.  Or she's lying, she did seem to look better than usual.

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Reply #4290 on: May 16, 2016, 08:39:12 AM

Weird, it looked all kinds of CGI/ fake to me.

Anywho; the best scene was this one. Something I didn't realize I wanted until it happened:
https://gfycat.com/GlitteringEntireHoiho


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Reply #4291 on: May 16, 2016, 08:58:19 AM

I really hope something comes of that  awesome, for real

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Reply #4292 on: May 16, 2016, 11:44:23 AM

Martin himself retconned that whole "fire immunity was a one time thing" in the books, she was on fire when she flew off on Drogon.

Before dragons were even a thing there were whole passages discussing how she gave zero fucks about scalding hot water, deserts, rocks etc.

I took the grrm quote to simply mean you shouldn't assume her resistence is absolute and permanent, and probably ebbs and flows with all the other asoiaf magic. Also with plot requirements.

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Reply #4293 on: May 16, 2016, 11:46:58 AM

Dragons are also somewhat of a magic amplifier.  So pretty good chances it works when they're in proximity.  But yah, PLOT. 

That brazier tipping scene looked really stupid. 
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Reply #4294 on: May 16, 2016, 11:52:02 AM

"Die in a Khal fire"  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

I wonder if she also has fire manipulation / pyromancy abilities... or is a huge-ass tent just supposed to light up like that?

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Reply #4295 on: May 16, 2016, 12:23:46 PM

I figured Daario and Jorah oiled it up a bit.  I mean the ground was catching fire.

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Reply #4296 on: May 16, 2016, 12:34:42 PM

The fire seemed to flow out of the tipped Braziers like there was some oil in them.

You'd think they would have been bolted down or something for safety purposes, seemed like any drunk could bumped them over pretty easily and brought the whole hall down in a minute. I hope the engineers take this into account when it's rebuilt.
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Reply #4297 on: May 16, 2016, 12:37:30 PM

They really need to have Jorrah and friend talking about how they oiled up the place before everybody arrived next episode, or else at least try to explain why the Dothraki use napalm for their braziers.

Episode was OK except for that one death.   Ohhhhh, I see.

There had really better be a reason for introducing that entire plot element.

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Reply #4298 on: May 16, 2016, 01:27:23 PM

I figured Daario and Jorah oiled it up a bit.  I mean the ground was catching fire.

You're making me think about it which is making me hate it. I had enough of a "WTF" at the non-burning that I'd forgotten my initial, "Wait, Fire doesn't flow like water.. wtf?" reaction.

Time to think of something good again:

Petyr Baelish, demonstrating to Lord Royce JUST how much Royce underestimated him had me laughing with glee. It was fantastic and I was happy we saw Littlefinger again and in such a great scene.
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Reply #4299 on: May 16, 2016, 01:42:25 PM

Brienne had 3 of the best parts of the episode, her look when Giantsbane sees her for the first time when she enters Castle Black (someone needs to make a short vid of this with 'dreamweaver' playing over the top), the above referenced gif and then dropping casually how she executed Stannis. The stunned mullet looks on Davos and Melisandre were priceless.

Episode was awesome.

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Reply #4300 on: May 16, 2016, 01:44:07 PM

I guess I should spoiler this..


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Reply #4301 on: May 16, 2016, 02:04:35 PM

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Reply #4302 on: May 16, 2016, 02:49:33 PM


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Reply #4303 on: May 16, 2016, 03:18:01 PM

Boy are these story-lines smartly written.  awesome, for real

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Reply #4304 on: May 16, 2016, 07:47:25 PM


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