Rasix
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Some light Googling tells me that's just wishfull thinking and already contradicted in the books.
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No that would be fucking retarded. I much rather Syrio be some bad ass minor character who died in an awesome last stand than to completely ruin the character by that idiotic twist.
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Yeah, that particular theory is already dead since event timelines don't match up.
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I'm pretty sure Martin scowled at some guy asking that question at a book signing and proclaimed him dead. Syrio is dead. Sorry.
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The implication in the TV series was that Syrio was sending Arya away so she didn't have to see him die. That is all. To a viewer who hasn't read the books it seemed clear that he was buying her time, as he knew he wouldn't survive fighting the more senior Lannister man who scoffed at the efforts of his underlings.
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Wasn't a lannister man. Was ser meryn trant, a whitecloak (kingsguard). He's also the one who slapped Sansa around.
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Yeah, key difference is that he is Kingsguard, so hes suppose to be one of the best knights in the realm (though as Ser Barristan Selmy pointed out in his awesome "fuck you I'm out" scene, they aren't quite what they use to be).
Though I'm not sure the implication was as clear to common people as you make it Tale. I've asked several people I know who watched the series but haven't read the books, and they're all certain that he's still alive.
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The book makes it pretty clear he's fucked, I think, as the last thing you see of him is him losing his weapon as I recall.
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Yeah, key difference is that he is Kingsguard, so hes suppose to be one of the best knights in the realm (though as Ser Barristan Selmy pointed out in his awesome "fuck you I'm out" scene, they aren't quite what they use to be).
Though I'm not sure the implication was as clear to common people as you make it Tale. I've asked several people I know who watched the series but haven't read the books, and they're all certain that he's still alive.
If you asked me that i would guess alive too, because there would assume you wouldn't be asking if he was dead. In the book Syrio had already smacked the shit out of Trant several times to absolutely no effect before Arya ran away, the guy was wearing full plate armor.
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It's ambiguous in the TV show, and it's really ambiguous in the book. Martin usually kills people for you to see rather leaving you to "guess" at it. He's not subtle about that. I'm guessing alive as well.
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The only reason anyone would think Syrio is alive is because his character is likeable and therefore you want him to be allive. If he was a shit, no one would give his survival a thought. He had a wooden fucking sword against a guy in plate and he wasn't going to run away. He is DEAD! Use you brain, not your heart.
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Tebonas
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1.) Syrio wouldn't have run away. "The First Sword of Braavos does not run" 2.) His enemy is seen in alive and unhurt in another scene soon after the confrontation
Draw your own conclussions from that.
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And 3 the Lannisters will chop the head of absolutely everyone, even harmless septas. There is no way for him to be alive.
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Good points.
But he's still alive.
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Rasix
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Even though the author says he's dead?
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Boy are you guys going to look foolish when he shows up riding a dragon.
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Rasix
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OOOOH, maybe he killed Ser Meryn Trant and switched bodies through ancient Braavosi magic.
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Arya IS Syrio.
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The Transcendent One: AH... THE ROGUE CONSTRUCT. Nordom: Sense of closure: imminent.
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Heh
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Should be 'Not today'.
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I think part of it is my inner nerd rage, having spent many countless hours debating that a master swordsman in light armor would be able to outclass even a moderately skilled foe in full plate, just by maneuverability alone.
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I think part of it is my inner nerd rage, having spent many countless hours debating that a master swordsman in light armor would be able to outclass even a moderately skilled foe in full plate, just by maneuverability alone. Wait until book three
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Even though the author says he's dead?
That's just a trick.
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Ok, now for something that isn't about Syrio. I don't want to be THAT guy, but having read the books and watched the series, one thing in the series that differed from the books bothered me alot.
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Teleku
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Even though the author says he's dead?
That's just a trick. Though, again, Martin hasn't actually said hes dead. Ok, now for something that isn't about Syrio. I don't want to be THAT guy, but having read the books and watched the series, one thing in the series that differed from the books bothered me alot.
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Rasix
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Ok, now for something that isn't about Syrio. I don't want to be THAT guy, but having read the books and watched the series, one thing in the series that differed from the books bothered me alot.
Not sure why you need to spoiler that. I think they did the right thing. In just about fight scene from the books that Tyrion is in, he comes across as an unbelievable badass. So he's super smart and a dwarven killing machine at the same time. OK. Playing him as a fool, was probably a bit much, but I think it's wise to steer clear of some parts of Martin's portrayal. edit: and Whispering Woods is the battle where Jaime is captured.
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Threash
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You are thinking of the battle of the green fork. And yes it was 90% budgetary and 10% story driven, i agree that combat Tyrion is highly unbelievable.
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I got the impression from the show he did get up and start fighting, and just trampling over him didn't knock him out.
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Threash
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Didn't Bronn specifically say "you missed the fight"? I might have imagined that.
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Did he not smash someones face in a few episodes earlier ? With a shield if I remember correctly ?
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Which also was a deviation from the book, where he killed the bandit with an freaking axe (Shagga Son of Dolf would be so proud).
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Finally saw ep10. Excellent work, HBO. I appreciated the gratuitous pan out of a hot, naked Dany.
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