3.0.3 today

[Paelos]

Here's a new wrinkle: Blizzard broke the mail today!  

People logging in everywhere were flipping out as the many items they had been shuffling around instead of banking them were gone. Also any items left over from the AH, and various other letters. They have taken all the servers down and have "no estimate on when the realms will be back up."

Yeah...glad this happened today and not Thursday.

[Oban]

Yes. 

All servers will be up and running perfectly on Thursday.

 

[Righ]

Good to hear. 

Of course, if they just gave us more bloody bank space, we wouldn't all be keeping stuff bouncing back and forth between alts in their mail database. I'd rather not lose the several hundred items in my mail, but I'd take that over losing this evening's play. I still have 3 more levels left to grind on my new warrior (same as the old warrior, only newer) before WotLK and I still have to choose which alt to strip, mail out cash and delete to make room for my Death Knight.

[Ingmar]

Good to hear. 

Of course, if they just gave us more bloody bank space, we wouldn't all be keeping stuff bouncing back and forth between alts in their mail database. I'd rather not lose the several hundred items in my mail, but I'd take that over losing this evening's play. I still have 3 more levels left to grind on my new warrior (same as the old warrior, only newer) before WotLK and I still have to choose which alt to strip, mail out cash and delete to make room for my Death Knight.

How much stuff are you stashing that you can't fit it all in 10 characters worth of banks? 

[Paelos]

Those are dangerous questions. People in WoW are fucking packrats. I have no idea why that is, but I fit everything my warrior needed in my bank with all 6 20 slot bags. Hell, I just liquated most of my old primals and mats on the AH and made about 1500g, while picking up 42 spaces. I haven't even gotten to the old gear I'm going to sell off because it will be replaced/outdated, but I'm not sure which resist items I should hold onto until I see the content. I could easily free up another 20 slots on that alone.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like more space, but people would just find new ways to hold onto useless fluff crap. Now that pets and mounts are stored in your interface, it's made things a hell of a lot easier to cut down on the vanity items.

EDIT: Also, as of 12:30 PST they are saying it will be 2 more hours before they release an update, not if it's fixed.

[Righ]

Oh sure, blame the people playing, not the silly quests that require you to grind reputation on all your alts using drops or trade skills that require you to maintain a supply of lower level materials to cater to the needs of lower level players and alts, or even the swings and roundabouts of classes that require maintaining a multitude of gear for different uses.

I probably could quite easily free enough space across my 10 characters to accommodate all the food, glyphs, items to DE, items to assist leveling in my various inboxes - much just through learning mounts and pets and managing a few dozen auctions, but that would take away from getting my character de jour to the point where I can play with others. Less fun. I'll get to it when I play those other characters. Or the mail will evaporate and unburden me. Either way is better.

[Merusk]

I've got 2 bank characters and a main whose mailboxes are full of Auctionhouse crap. Not random fluff but materials and whatsit I list at irregular intervals as I notice a spike in demand.  Primals, Ores, Leathers, patterns, Low-level Enchanting Mats etc.   I dislike just vendoring stuff when I know that there's SOMEONE who can probably use it, and it's not costing me anything to keep it.

   It's almost all crafting mats, too, not greens and crap.  I stopped trying to sell greens and blues on the AH about 5 months ago.  I just DE them now.. and for the last 2 months I  haven't even bothered to do that, since Enchanting mats aren't moving on my server at all.  I've vendored about 40 L70 greens since I gave up DEing hem.

[kildorn]

Man, since the spellpower/healing change I don't know what to do with all my vault space.

[Ingmar]

This all just vaguely reminds me of people who use the Deleted Items folder in Outlook to store stuff. Yeah, you CAN do it, but you really probably shouldn't.

[Nonentity]

This all just vaguely reminds me of people who use the Deleted Items folder in Outlook to store stuff. Yeah, you CAN do it, but you really probably shouldn't.

This.

I mean, seriously. Make your alt a guild, fill the alt's bank, and buy some pages in the alt's guild bank.

You can store a LOT of items on one character.

They've even said they don't want to give people more bag space, so they're mainly working on consolidating the existing bag space.

The thing I am most amped about is the fact that they said when they introduce the dual spec system, they may even implement a built-in ItemRack-style system that would actually hold your items for you.

That would free up all the bag space used on my tanking gear, which would make me the happiest boy.

[Paelos]

YES! There is no reason for Soulbound gear to be carried around in your bags like some sort of travelling hobo. It's not going anywhere, and you're never going to sell it unless you vendor it from disuse.

Hell, I don't even care if it has no sell price value after you equip it. Just have it go in your magical "closet" so to speak and pull out whatever you need when you need it. Cutting down on overwhelming amounts of floating gear would free up almost all my bags.

[Oban]

Wired                                    Tired

Realm Status Page                  Servers that are up
7-11's that sell WotLK             UPS drivers that don't knock

[K9]

YES! There is no reason for Soulbound gear to be carried around in your bags like some sort of travelling hobo. It's not going anywhere, and you're never going to sell it unless you vendor it from disuse.

Hell, I don't even care if it has no sell price value after you equip it. Just have it go in your magical "closet" so to speak and pull out whatever you need when you need it. Cutting down on overwhelming amounts of floating gear would free up almost all my bags.

I was sorely dissappointed when the much touted "currency" window took a grand total of 5 items out of my bank. I still have Zaxxis Insignias, Timbermaw beads and feathers, various scourgestones and a bunch of other similiar and quest related tokens clogging up my bank.

[Azazel]

I was sorely dissappointed when the much touted "currency" window took a grand total of 5 items out of my bank. I still have Zaxxis Insignias, Timbermaw beads and feathers, various scourgestones and a bunch of other similiar and quest related tokens clogging up my bank.

THIS.

All that soulbound shit used for quests, currency and fucking rep grinding should go in there. Nagrand research and PVP tokens, Necrotic Runes, Scourgestones of all shapes and sizes... The list goes on...

[Sjofn]

Y'all need to have a soul searching moment here. If you still have shit like Timbermaw hand-ins, either hand the shit in or accept that you're never going to go back to visit the poor furbolg and delete it. :P

[Righ]

We wanted to inform our players regarding today’s extended maintenance. We experienced an error that resulted in players being unable to retrieve in-game mail from the last 15 days. Once the error was discovered, we brought down the realms immediately and began working to address this problem, and have been doing so for the duration of the day. Our decision was to enable players to continue playing World of Warcraft before the opening of Wrath of the Lich King. Work would continue on addressing issues with the in-game mail while the realms were up. This is the plan that is currently in motion.

The process from this point forward will be twofold:


      1. All items that were in a mail will be sent to characters in one or more messages depending on the amount of items the character had in the mail system.
      2. Gold from auction house sales or sent through mail will be sent in a separate mail.


We are working to resolve this issue, and we will keep our players informed throughout this process. In the meantime, please do not create an in-game ticket or contact phone support for this issue – multiple mails will be sent returning your items and gold automatically. We greatly appreciate your patience during this time.

Servers starting to come back up. So... the last 15 days, huh? So they restored the last monthly backup over the past 7 hours, and took the decision not to run 15 incremental restores before starting the server up?

[Paelos]

Amazinly dumb they could do this now. They dodged a huge bullet.

[WindupAtheist]

All servers down. Forums down. Totally dark.

Also, throw your god damned "soon to be two expansions obsolete" rep turn-in shit away, for fuck's sake.

[kildorn]

BUT MY TIMBERMAW REP!

Seriously, why do people keep this shit? Do we need to put a 1 year duration on non equippable items?

[Fordel]

They love me in that tunnel.

[Hawkbit]

They love me in that tunnel.

You're awfully sure of yourself.

[Righ]

Looks like they didn't restore any mail after all. My guess is that having spent 7 hours on the monthly, and having decided to skip the incrementals, they found out that they would be duplicating everything from the last moth that had already been taken from the mail, and that they needed the incrementals to have consistency. SO they dropped the database tables again and build a new, empty mail database. I also suspect that next Tuesday's downtime will be significant, as they attempt to merge the restored data with whatever is added this week. And anything sent in the day prior to today's maintenance will be unrecoverable.

Just a guess. 

[Gobbeldygook]

ALL HAIL THE REVOLUTION!


That's right friends, we are in the midst of a glorious communist revolution.  All across azeroth, vendors are giving away their wares for free in exchange for...

NOTHING!

Free spellhaste rings and necks for all!  Free season 2 for select classes!  Partial season 4 for some classes!

HAIL TIGOLE!

[Ratman_tf]

Wired                                    Tired

Realm Status Page                  Servers that are up
7-11's that sell WotLK             UPS drivers that don't knock

I saw WOTLK at my local 7-11. I was confused since the street date is the 13th, and wouldn't buy a piece of software from a store where I get my slushies and month old hot dogs anyway.

Seriously. Software at a convenience store?

[Chimpy]

I didn't really have anything I can't afford to lose in my mailboxes, really.

Just a few random herbs, some shit I could not sell on the AH, and oh ya....4 marks of the Illidari which no one will have a use for in 20 hours.

Still annoying though as I had planned on doing some spring cleaning/mailing a bunch of herbs to my main to prepare for busting out the first 10 or so levels of alchemy first thing on thursday.

[Signe]

7 - 11 is the perfect place to sell MMOs.  They always have that start at midnight bit and nearly all the 7 -11s are open 24/7.  Which is inconsistent with their name which they should change to 24 -7 or Shoppy shop.

[Xanthippe]

I was sorely dissappointed when the much touted "currency" window took a grand total of 5 items out of my bank. I still have Zaxxis Insignias, Timbermaw beads and feathers, various scourgestones and a bunch of other similiar and quest related tokens clogging up my bank.

Ditto.  I thought I'd lose all the extra currency I have, but nope.  Still have Honor Hold insignias, and probably 10 more slots of crap.

Magical closet sounds great - I also want to be able to wear pretty matching clothing overlays, so that I can choose my own outfits instead of having every level 70 hunter sporting the same shoulder model or whatever.  I've given up stats on my lower level characters just to be able to match.  Some of the little armor sets are very nice looking, put together.

[Xanthippe]

BUT MY TIMBERMAW REP!

Seriously, why do people keep this shit? Do we need to put a 1 year duration on non equippable items?

Achievements.

I'm still working on old world reps.  One of these days I will have a purple tiger mount.

[kildorn]

Screw every hunter with the same shoulders: Give me a UI option for "non fucking absurd shoulders"

I'm so happy that most priest shoulders are at least reasonable.

[Righ]

Free spellhaste rings and necks for all!  Free season 2 for select classes!  Partial season 4 for some classes!

Expect a rollback when they eventually get the servers up again. Which may not be today.

[Merusk]

This crash has been really nice, actually.  With the servers being down there's no pressure to get online and crank out those last few heroics or outland dungeons for achievements prior to not having anyone willing to do it for 6 months or so.   I tidied up the house more than usual, gave my wife a hand by doing some of her chores and hit the sack at 10:30 last night.  It was weird and somewhat cathardic.

[Righ]

It was weird and somewhat cathardic.

Wasn't Cathar dick usually associated with the Bulgarian heresy?

[Ratman_tf]

7 - 11 is the perfect place to sell MMOs.  They always have that start at midnight bit and nearly all the 7 -11s are open 24/7.  Which is inconsistent with their name which they should change to 24 -7 or Shoppy shop.

They were originally open from 7-11. The name stuck but the hours didn't.

[Ingmar]

It was weird and somewhat cathardic.

Wasn't Cathar dick usually associated with the Bulgarian heresy?

Righ++

[Signe]

oooo.  Somebody's butt cheeks are turning red!