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Reply #5495 on: February 16, 2011, 08:35:29 PM

Or finished for that matter.

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Reply #5496 on: February 17, 2011, 01:47:57 PM

First off his grammar makes my head hurt.

Secondly innovation = swords and elves but like, in space.  awesome, for real

Thirdly, Star Wars is dark fantasy? Is he on drugs?

KOTOR2 qualfies. 'course, that wasn't Bioware.

'Coma inducing' and 'Dark' are not the same thing.

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Reply #5497 on: February 18, 2011, 04:34:13 PM


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Reply #5498 on: February 20, 2011, 02:27:31 AM

Didn't the Warhammer guys say they had a bunch of secret, awesome techniques for ensuring that the sides would be population balanced? And didn't that not turn out so well?

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Reply #5499 on: February 20, 2011, 04:19:38 AM

Didn't the Warhammer guys say they had a bunch of secret, awesome techniques for ensuring that the sides would be population balanced? And didn't that not turn out so well?

A 'Dogs of War' system was mentioned that would attempt to auto-balance sides. It doesn't appear to have ever been implemented (or activated).

I'm wary of devs who say, "We're watching population balance closely," because I wonder what they think they can do about it on the fly. Shut down one side from getting new players? Still requires encouraging players to sign up for the weaker side. Rebalance side-related powers? That takes weeks when (after a title goes live) players don't wait that long when they are being soundly thrashed on a daily basis.

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Reply #5500 on: February 20, 2011, 04:31:41 AM

Didn't the Warhammer guys say they had a bunch of secret, awesome techniques for ensuring that the sides would be population balanced? And didn't that not turn out so well?

As I recall they only did this when Forts were actively needed as part of the process to go to the city siege. All it was was a population cap for the number of people on each side that could go to the Fort so once the cap was hit you had to sit on your hands or keep running back to try and get in.  They eventually dropped the need to take Forts as part of the process to go to the city because they were incapable of fixing the heavy lag that occured even with the cap, it was just easier to remove it
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Reply #5501 on: February 20, 2011, 05:45:35 AM

Their secret awesome technique amounted to a small xp buff to the side with too little population, which lasted until the side was actually balanced.  Most people don't want to reroll after the tenth server move, so for some reason it didn't affect much.  Sure some of the server merge people took advantage of it when picking where to move to, unfortunately the players on other side had to go somewhere, too.

Even on the healthiest servers which side was more powerful seemed to be a function of time of day.  Like morning were Chaos-dominated and evenings were Order.

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Reply #5502 on: February 21, 2011, 05:37:12 AM

Apparently, chaos is either unemployed or works the graveyard shift...

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #5503 on: February 21, 2011, 10:52:01 AM

They could live in a different time zone.

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Reply #5504 on: February 21, 2011, 06:26:44 PM

True. Amended then, Chaos is either unemployed, third shift or a dirty foreigner.  why so serious?

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Reply #5505 on: February 23, 2011, 08:46:43 PM

More likely has to do with server collapses and large groups of players coordinating their moves to a single server.  Suddenly this Pacific server has a shitton of Atlantic timezone chaos players from the few surviving guilds.  But the counterpart order exodus rolled mostly Central instead.
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Reply #5506 on: March 03, 2011, 12:24:28 PM


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Reply #5507 on: March 03, 2011, 03:41:33 PM

Man there's going to be a ton of those running around roping people like calves.

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Reply #5508 on: March 03, 2011, 03:51:23 PM

I posit that grappling hooks, bionic arms, and spider web are more fun than guns for gamers.

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Reply #5509 on: March 04, 2011, 05:22:50 AM

Neat video.  I still have no idea what this game expects me to do when I log in though.

Edit: Well, not no idea, there are those instances and such, but I still feel like I have a really poor sense of what they're "going for."
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Reply #5510 on: March 04, 2011, 07:49:59 AM

The Bounty Hunter class page is now revamped (along with new companion and ship pages, of course):

http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/classes/bounty-hunter

AC: Powertech and Mercenary
Companion: Mako
Ship: D5-Mantis

Boooo!!!

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Reply #5511 on: March 04, 2011, 08:00:00 AM

A little shade of my 'dark period' CoH character Cosmic Anomaly.

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Reply #5513 on: March 04, 2011, 10:11:17 AM

Mmo combat is pretty much mmo combat.
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Reply #5514 on: March 04, 2011, 11:03:44 AM

Yeah, it's almost like making fun of the retarded kid because he's retarded. You know he's going to drool on his shirt and pick his nose, and sometimes you feel real bad for him. Then you remember this retard is charging people money to do so, and looks even more completely retarded because it's all pew pew and not slash slash, which looks infinitely worse in MMO combat.

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Reply #5515 on: March 04, 2011, 11:09:12 AM

People don't care how combat looks as long as the females all have big tits and the bad guys drop lots of shiny. 

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Reply #5516 on: March 04, 2011, 11:12:27 AM

Mmo combat is pretty much mmo combat.

Pretty much.  This doesn't look any better or worse than the Guild Wars 2 thief combat that was shown off yesterday.  MMO combat is just crap to watch.
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Reply #5517 on: March 04, 2011, 11:14:26 AM

Is it true they're making the players read the text quest aloud as it's displayed? I can put up with a lot of bad combat animations if that's the case.
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Reply #5518 on: March 04, 2011, 11:53:06 AM

People don't care how combat looks as long as the females all have big tits and the bad guys drop lots of shiny. 

Minor de-rail: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/03/02/april-cover-saints-third789.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

Would bling count?

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Reply #5519 on: March 04, 2011, 02:02:23 PM

Mmo combat is pretty much mmo combat.

Pretty much.  This doesn't look any better or worse than the Guild Wars 2 thief combat that was shown off yesterday.  MMO combat is just crap to watch.

I thought the Guild Wars 2 thief combat video looked much better actually, because at least the goddamn thief was moving in a somewhat plausible manner. If I have to watch those SWTOR vids with idiots standing behind knee high forcefield screens again, I will scream. Those things just look so patently ridiculous.

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Reply #5520 on: March 04, 2011, 02:37:01 PM

Mmo combat is pretty much mmo combat.

Pretty much.  This doesn't look any better or worse than the Guild Wars 2 thief combat that was shown off yesterday.  MMO combat is just crap to watch.

I thought the Guild Wars 2 thief combat video looked much better actually, because at least the goddamn thief was moving in a somewhat plausible manner. If I have to watch those SWTOR vids with idiots standing behind knee high forcefield screens again, I will scream. Those things just look so patently ridiculous.

I guess flanking is not in the design doc.  Nor is jumping over knee high fences.
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Reply #5521 on: March 04, 2011, 05:12:37 PM

Well, if previous statements by the devs are to be believed, then only smugglers and imperial agents can use cover.

 Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #5522 on: March 04, 2011, 07:45:45 PM

Agreed on the stupid knee walls.
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Reply #5523 on: March 05, 2011, 12:35:32 AM

GW2 video was also just a stream of someone who (I assume) was either 3 years old or never played an MMO before, this is supposedly a video edited to show off the best they can offer.
It still looked worse to me.

That said I'm still semi-excited; I just never fantasized about being a leather clad thief in fairyland when I was a kid, I was too busy jetpacking and raining down missiles on my marks  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #5524 on: March 05, 2011, 03:06:07 AM



That said I'm still semi-excited; I just never fantasized about being a leather clad thief in fairyland when I was a kid, I was too busy jetpacking and raining down missiles on my marks  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

The problem for me is hotkey/action bar based combat.  I've played games with it for quite some time now, but in the end its a boring mechanic and I've never played a game that uses that system because I like the combat mechanics.  I play and have played them for other reasons, but quite frankly whether my character shiving someone in the back or shooting rockets because I pressed 111123111123 isn't all that important to me.   That being said, I like jetpacking and missiles, and this is why Tribes is one of of the best games ever.
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Reply #5525 on: March 05, 2011, 04:30:20 AM

Well, if previous statements by the devs are to be believed, then only smugglers and imperial agents can use cover.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #5526 on: March 05, 2011, 08:28:45 AM

People don't care how combat looks as long as the females all have big tits and the bad guys drop lots of shiny. 

... and that player e-peen glows brightly and can cut through metal, given the IP.

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Reply #5527 on: March 09, 2011, 09:53:57 AM

Guilds !

"System" page: http://www.swtor.com/info/systems/guilds


Guild Headquarters (pre launch guild program): http://www.swtor.com/guilds

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Reply #5528 on: March 09, 2011, 10:08:35 AM

The FAQ is more interesting.  If you make a pre-launch guild, it'll be created on a server they select at random.  It also looks like guilds of differing factions can 'ally' with one another as dedicated opponents.

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Reply #5529 on: March 09, 2011, 11:44:41 AM

If there are no objections, I'll head the TOR chapter of Bat Country. We would need a total of four guild members who pre-order the game to create the guild pre-launch. It would make the usual 'what server should we roll on' dance a lot simpler :)

Now the important question: Rebel or Imperial? Or should we do both with Bazooko's Circus?

Ok, for those interested in TOR:

Rebel or Imperial?
PvP, PvE or RP
EST or PST?

I'm pretty much torn. I could see Jedi or Trooper, but Bounty Hunters are just cool, too. Either way would be cool.

I say RP as always, but I'm dirty like that. Possibly if we run two guilds the other could be PvP?

EST for me.
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