SWTOR

[WindupAtheist]

The Hulk has nothing to push off from in order to jump, thus he'll be reduced to swimming after Superman. Meanwhile Superman can fly, and do so while leaving his hands free to punch. Therefore Superman easily pummels the Hulk as he tries to doggy paddle through the stellar mass.

You're all a bunch of ubergeeks in denial. I toss a little bit of bait out there, a casual reference to a past nerd-war from a different forum, and watch the board fretfully dance around it, afraid to go for it but unable to resist. YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE! GIVE IN TO THE DORK SIDE!

[UnSub]

You're all a bunch of ubergeeks in denial.

I can stop being an ubergeek any time I want!

 

[Ratman_tf]

The Hulk has nothing to push off from in order to jump, thus he'll be reduced to swimming after Superman. Meanwhile Superman can fly, and do so while leaving his hands free to punch. Therefore Superman easily pummels the Hulk as he tries to doggy paddle through the stellar mass.

You're all a bunch of ubergeeks in denial. I toss a little bit of bait out there, a casual reference to a past nerd-war from a different forum, and watch the board fretfully dance around it, afraid to go for it but unable to resist. YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE! GIVE IN TO THE DORK SIDE!

But the Hulk is really, really, really, really, really, really angry, and all that gamma radiation from the sun will make him uber strong and tough. Superman can fly around and punch him all day long, and he won't even muss the Hulk's hair, much less hurt him.

[ajax34i]

The Hulk will win, because he's not really bound by the "Save Humanity" rules of conduct like Superman is, so all he has to do is mess with the Sun.

[NowhereMan]

Red Hulk punches Superman and takes his cape because Loeb gets to write it

[UnSub]

The Hulk and Superman punch each other for a bit, then realise they have a common bond and join up to fight Superboy Prime and and Kryptonite-infused Abomination on the event horizon of a black hole.

[Goreschach]

This thread sucks now.



A lot.

[stu]

Blinded by the sun's rays they twirl aimlessly, like dandelion seeds, until the two are pulled into the ball of fire. They burn to nothing.

[Malakili]

This thread sucks now.



A lot.

This thread has always sucked.  Its jut a different kind of suck now.

[Rasix]

Ok. That's enough.

[WindupAtheist]

But the Hulk is really, really, really, really, really, really angry, and all that gamma radiation from the sun will make him uber strong and tough. Superman can fly around and punch him all day long, and he won't even muss the Hulk's hair, much less hurt him.

As you can see from this Wikipedia link, the sun doesn't give off gamma radiation! Therefore it is obvious that Superman would defeat the Hulk if their battle were held within it!

Ok. That's enough.

Aiiiie!

[UnSub]

SWOR to get a book out of the main bad guy's backstory - Darth Maglus

December 28 2010 as a launch date? What, are they looking at pre-order numbers to see if it is even worth printing the book? Because between Xmas and New Year would seem to be a dead zone for a book.

[Velorath]

Senior Games Developer.

He looked 12.

 

Glad I wasn't the only one slightly taken aback by that. Not that my reaction in any way reflects the man's credentials or competence, of which I know absolutely nothing about. He might be a design god, and I'd be none the wiser. It's just that he made me feel so very... old.

Yeah, this.

I clearly am not about to comment on anything else.  Fair play to him.

Don't know if I overlooked mention of it in this thread, but you can imagine my surprise when I saw a link in the SWTOR thread on NeoGaf to an F13 interview from 2 1/2 years back that Yoru did with that guy.

[Margalis]

Was he a zygote at that point?

[Stabs]

I found this on google which should help clarify matters:

Listed below are some things people have posted about William Wallace.

    * William Wallace - They can take away our lives, but they'll never take away our respawn nodes!
    * William Wallace was the first player to unlock Jedi in SWTOR!!!
    * William Wallace- He leads noobs to their death.
    * William Wallace- The only max level players alive are the ones he's let live.
    * William Wallace doesn't take showers, he takes blood baths.
    * Don't **** with William Wallace.
    * When Chuck Noriss needs help he calls William Wallace.
    * When Bruce Banner gets mad, he turns into the Hulk. When the Hulk gets mad, he turns into William Wallace

The main link was broken but google never forgets!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:O-MfYeCY2aMJ:www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php%3Ft%3D132941+william+wallace+swtor&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

[UnSub]

I thought of commenting on Master Wallace's appearance as an 11 year-old-boy, but figured the MMO equivalent of Pint-Sized Powerhouse applied.

... plus we are never getting into the SWOR beta now.

[Cyrrex]

You're all a bunch of ubergeeks in denial. I toss a little bit of bait out there, a casual reference to a past nerd-war from a different forum, and watch the board fretfully dance around it, afraid to go for it but unable to resist. YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE! GIVE IN TO THE DORK SIDE!

Honestly, if you look at what the average poster in this thread knows about SW, they are indeed all ubergeeks as you say.  They also don't hate this IP nearly as much as they'd like everyone to believe.

Also, I must be high, but I thought the combat video looked, by MMO comparisons, awesome.  I'm not sure what MMOs you're all playing that have better looking combat than that stuff.  It certainly isn't WoW.  I enjoy LOTRO a good deal, but even its combat is a bunch of cookie cutter crapola.  You are some seriously jaded motherfuckers.

[Merusk]

Who the hell said any of us hate Star Wars? I sure as hell don't.  I just don't believe it's a suitable IP for a good MMO.  I feel the same way about most, if not all, book or movie related IPs.

[pxib]

Also, I must be high, but I thought the combat video looked, by MMO comparisons, awesome.  I'm not sure what MMOs you're all playing that have better looking combat than that stuff.

I colored the operative parts maroon so they would fade into a dark background and you could imagine those sentences without them. We're not complaining that the combat looks bad compared to WoW or LotRO (though honestly both have superior animation quality), we're complaining that it still looks like ass rather than being the brave new world of seamless cinematic heaven that the interviewed designers seem to be claiming. "Better than WoW" was not a high bar in 2005. In 2010 it's not even a limbo bar.

If they want to claim they're changing the way that MMO combat looks and feels, they have to do better than that video.

[Cyrrex]

Also, I must be high, but I thought the combat video looked, by MMO comparisons, awesome.  I'm not sure what MMOs you're all playing that have better looking combat than that stuff.

I colored the operative parts maroon so they would fade into a dark background and you could imagine those sentences without them. We're not complaining that the combat looks bad compared to WoW or LotRO (though honestly both have superior animation quality), we're complaining that it still looks like ass rather than being the brave new world of seamless cinematic heaven that the interviewed designers seem to be claiming. "Better than WoW" was not a high bar in 2005. In 2010 it's not even a limbo bar.

If they want to claim they're changing the way that MMO combat looks and feels, they have to do better than that video.

I have to believe that they are comparing themselves to other MMOs as far as combat is concerned, because it would be utter madness to believe otherwise.  Beyond that, I take your point...MMOs don't exactly have engrossing combat.  I'll also give you that the animations are pretty poor, but it still looks like (relative) fun. 

[pxib]

I have to believe that they are comparing themselves to other MMOs as far as combat is concerned, because it would be utter madness to believe otherwise.

Even then they're aiming low. How about more visceral swordplay and sorcery than Age of Conan? More massively cinematic warfare than Planetside? More button-mashy fun than City of Heroes? More tactical complexity than Guild Wars? In order to believe what they're saying they can only be comparing themselves to the least innovative of the Everquest clones.

That's disappointing.

[Lakov_Sanite]

This thread...classic.

[Margalis]

I for one will gladly admit that I hate Star Wars, and further don't understand how anyone can disagree.

I mean "oh cool, laser swords" can only take you so far.

[Kageru]

The recent films have made it possible to retain any fondness for the first two movies?

[Pezzle]

If anything they reinforce that fondness.  The stark contrast between  and    remind us of what might have been.

[Typhon]

I for one will gladly admit that I hate Star Wars, and further don't understand how anyone can disagree.

I mean "oh cool, laser swords" can only take you so far.

Lol, that being the case, I guess I'm really confused about why you would waste any time in this thread.

[Margalis]

To hate on Star Wars and SWTOR.

I mean isn't it obvious? 

[Falconeer]

Also, I must be high, but I thought the combat video looked, by MMO comparisons, awesome.  I'm not sure what MMOs you're all playing that have better looking combat than that stuff. 

Easy, Age of Conan.
Don't forget the HD, and check out 4:35 now that you are there. Remember this is a fanmade e-peen video, not an officially released pre-launch heavily edited teaser one.

SWTOR combat looks ok, but it reeks of scripted hotbar skill/actions. I hope I'm wrong.

[Malakili]

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SWTOR combat looks ok, but it reeks of scripted hotbar skill/actions. I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, it isn't so much that it is worse than other MMOs, just that MMO combat generally sucks, and this looks no different.

[Typhon]

To hate on Star Wars and SWTOR.

I mean isn't it obvious? 

LOL, fair enough

[Rasix]

SWTOR combat looks ok, but it reeks of scripted hotbar skill/actions. I hope I'm wrong.

Well, since that's mainly what it was with KOTOR, I don't think you're going to see a big change here.

I thought the ranged combat looked interesting.  I thought the light saber stuff looked static and dull.  I could basically see the GCDs interrupting the action.

[eldaec]

SWTOR combat looks ok, but it reeks of scripted hotbar skill/actions. I hope I'm wrong.

Not sure what you were expecting, but this is exactly what SWTOR is.

[UnSub]

One thing not shown in the video (that I saw) was targeting reticles. I'm assuming they weren't in there to make things look more exciting.

I fully believe that all melee attacks in MMOs need to be an AOE that reflects the arc of the melee attack, ala AoC. Given that video, I suspect that the damage a lightsaber can do will be still be limited to specific points of contact, not as an AOE swing.

[eldaec]

I don't think there has been any suggestion that weapons are aimed? It's select target, select ability, repeat, afaik.

This is not the Planetside you are looking for.

[Ollie]

Sadly, it sure looks like tab-targeting and clicky skills all the way.

I fully believe that all melee attacks in MMOs need to be an AOE that reflects the arc of the melee attack, ala AoC.

One of the upcoming MMOGs that seems to go the conical melee AoE and spell-aiming route is TERA, but I'm not really sure what to make of it. Every time I dare look at their website, it tackles me with demonic boobage and swords the size of telephone poles.