SWTOR

[DLRiley]

If they was making Guild Wars I would buy it at launch, but it looks closer to Hellgate London so I'll wait a year before even considering to buy to see if the social experiments are over.

[UnSub]

Looking back on this thread, I was as right on page 3 as I am now and there hasn't been any new info to really change that (other than: raid guild players are developing the end game content  ). BioWare / Lucasarts / EA started the hype on this way too early. They will be bitten on the arse by it when they start announcing feature details or changes that upset a fanbase fuelled by dreams and promises.

[Surlyboi]

But the tears will be oh-so-sweet.

[DLRiley]

All most makes me wish I had front row seats.

[Triforcer]

That question about races in the iGN interview made me nervous.  They aren't even willing to say "oh, there will be multiple races, but we aren't talking about them yet."

The fact that they won't even ADMIT to non-humans is...interesting.  I'm betting on a big glorious reveal where they say you can only play humans and droids, because they want to make it YOUR adventure and have you identify with a human character, etc. (read:  too expensive to get VO when you have to give differing voice options for every alien species). 

[tmp]

(read:  too expensive to get VO when you have to give differing voice options for every alien species). 

I don't think the VO cost would be the reason, not when previous KotOR games would simply use 2-3 looped sounds for anything the alien species would say (and even though obvious, it worked surprisingly well)

Thinking more of it, this could be the actual problem -- aliens speaking their own languagues would force the player to read subtitles, pretty much removing the whole VO advantage.

But that said, there's one alien in the cinematic trailer (the Sith spy class, iirc). So maybe they will be playable, guess we'll see.

[Triforcer]

If alien races are playable, why not say that and not reveal any more detail?  There is something unusual brewing here. 

[tmp]

If alien races are playable, why not say that and not reveal any more detail?  There is something unusual brewing here. 

Well either that or saying that would send their PR people into shit fit how "dev is sappin' mah authority". The careful arrangement of announcements for teasers for reveals of sneak peeks into twitter clues that some info may be coming, to generate maximum hype... that's srs business 

[SnakeCharmer]

I'm trying to think back to who...or rather what...didnn't speak, well, English in the movies.  Major characters, anyway.  Wookiees.  Jawas.  Hutts.  Twileks.  The dude that rode shotgun with Lando in RotJ.  The hammerhead shark looking things.  The big lizard (Bossk?).  Everyone else (in the movies, anyway) spoke English:  The fish guy, zabraks. 

So.  Who knows what they're planning on doing, cause they sure as shit ain't telling.

[Draegan]

I just hope I get to play the game more than I have to watch/read/think about it.

[Koyasha]

I certainly hope at least some non-human races are playable.  I can understand not wanting to deal with the ones that supposedly can't speak galactic Basic so they can stick with fully acted ones.  I've never understood why they didn't allow a few additional races in KOTOR, considering it really would just have amounted to a few changes of models.  There's no particular reason why Revan couldn't have been a Twi'lek, for example, considering they had full models for those.

Presumably, though, the only individuals who don't speak galactic Basic either can't (physically incapable of it) or live on such remote backwaters that they don't need to.  Some Star Wars nerd may come in and correct me on that, but this is the observation of an average 'I kinda like Star Wars' observer.  Hell, even the physically incapable of it is a questionable reason not to, since they could presumably have mechanical assistance to create the necessary sounds.

On the other hand, either race is utterly meaningless to the story, which might seem a little odd, or each new race causes at least two more dialogue paths to have to be written and voiced for a considerable number of interactions.

[eldaec]

Story has carried Bioware in spite of shitty mechanics before. 

P(Hellgate) > P(Kotor)

[SnakeCharmer]

That.  Is.  Awesome.

[DLRiley]

I'm waiting for bioware to prove to me that their not making Hellgate london.

[HaemishM]

Google Map

Win.

[Surlyboi]

Epic win.

[Ingmar]

You people don't actually even know what you want from this game, do you.

[DLRiley]

I want Guild Wars with a Star Wars IP.

[SnakeCharmer]

You people don't actually even know what you want from this game, do you.

Co-op KOTOR.

[Yegolev]

You people don't actually even know what you want from this game, do you.

Blue tits.


I'll make the prediction: non-human races will be available for purchase in the EA Store.

[Draegan]

I don't get it.

[Surlyboi]

You people don't actually even know what you want from this game, do you.

Blue tits.

So that's where blue milk comes from...

[Hindenburg]

Man, you're, like, Bizarro Oban.

Also:

I want Guild Wars with a Star Wars IP.

This.

[Surlyboi]

I don't want GW with a SW IP. I think I want just a working shared world with a SW IP that doesn't try to cockblock me with
random revamps of the way the game is played every couple of years.

[Rasix]

I don't want GW with a SW IP.

GW bored me silly.  I didn't think the world implementation was bad, just the combat/classes/world design was bland to my tastes. 

[Senses]

Wouldn't a coop kotor3 have been better marketed as some new game for the wii and your 3 friends?  The whole mmorpg is going to bite them in the ass.

[Lantyssa]

No, it won't.  Might bite the MMO players in the ass, but it won't bite them.

[Senses]

I just meant that "mmorpg," creates an expectation of something that maybe this game is not, and perhaps a repackaging of the concept before release might be in order, but hey, for all the complaining in here, there is tons of excitment in the outside world about the new Star Wars Mmo.

[Surlyboi]

MMO players need to be bitten in the ass.

[Merusk]

You people don't actually even know what you want from this game, do you.

Blue tits.


I'll make the prediction: non-human races will be available for purchase in the EA Store.

My cynicism agrees with you.  You'll be able to buy light saber colors other than blue or Red from the EA Store as well. 

[WindupAtheist]

Who needs any color besides red?

[tmp]

Who needs any color besides red?

Plenty of crazy KotOR fans. Some of the colours they make, i didn't even know existed.

[Merusk]

Who needs any color besides red?

Plenty of crazy KotOR fans. Some of the colours they make, i didn't even know existed.

They don't, according to Lucas, other than in the EU.  Which gives me the giggles every time I think of it.   Mace was the sole exception, and only because Jackson wanted to stand-out in his scenes.

[Oban]

Will my alt, a force sensitive bisexual blue titted twi'lek cheese crafter, have to pick up combat skills to get to her partner's house?

[Yegolev]

Will my alt, a force sensitive bisexual blue titted twi'lek cheese crafter, have to pick up combat skills to get to her partner's house?

Undoubtedly.  If there's any one thing that MMOs all manage to disappoint me with, it's tying everything non-combat into combat.  With the sad, sad exception of pre-revamp Horizons.

The lightsaber color comment, yeah, it's even more likely in my mind now that we will see something like DDO Unlimited.  If it's not that, it will be World of Star Wars.  If it somehow turns out to be a good game... I'll really wish it wasn't Star Wars.