Training acceleration cards?

[Slayerik]

Let them spend all their hard earned on ships all they like, but being able to buy better characters, IMO is just wrong!

I don't agree with being able to buy ISK for real life money or being able to buy characters, but accept the fact that its possible. Buying skill points is just insane. Every alliance would max out their loyal players. It would ruin the game and create an even bigger void between the noobs and the vets, or to be more accurate, the rich and the poor.

You do understand that you could sell GTCs, and buy a 50 million SP character... right? You just don't like the fact that they would get to name them or something? :P

[Amarr HM]

Well you have hit a good point there and it's hard to say why but I think what pezzle said earlier pretty much sums up how I feel. If something like this was brought in I personally would feel that to compete I have to throw more money at the game, and with all that has happened recently I really don't want to do this especially now ghost training is gone does that make sense?

[ajax34i]

What if they did it so it's aimed at bringing newbies closer to the veterans, only?  Like, for example, if you can purchase the learning skills and the support skills, but you cannot purchase any of the capital ship skills or T2 ship skills, and must train those (and their prerequisites) the long way?  So that it doesn't take a new character 6 months to just get through the support skills package?

What if they just change the Character Creation process to give 10 million SPs in skills, but no ship skills at all.  But you start with Engineering 5, Electronics 5, Mechanic 5, and all the Learning skills at 5/5.  But no ship skills, so you still have to do industrial to 5, mining barge to 5, battleship 5, and so on, the long way.

[Slayerik]

Now that is a good idea. There are some painful skills that everyone needs, and hurts the noob game experience. Though they probably feel like the 800k they upped it to was a great gift ;)

[Sparky]

What if they just change the Character Creation process to give 10 million SPs in skills, but no ship skills at all.  But you start with Engineering 5, Electronics 5, Mechanic 5, and all the Learning skills at 5/5.  But no ship skills, so you still have to do industrial to 5, mining barge to 5, battleship 5, and so on, the long way.

I'd be fine with that, long as they bumped up anyone who doesn't already have those skills of course.  

Doing away with learning skills altogether and giving everyone a 10 point buff in every stat would be my preferred solution, but either way works.  I'd guess the only reason they don't let you make an electronics 5 character now is they don't want throwaway cyno alts - so you'd probably have to rearrange a few skill dependencies.

[Endie]

Yep and they should start newbies at level 30 in warcraft with a full bar of skills also please unlock all cars and improvements in Forza and all the guns in BF1942 tia...

This is not a great idea.

[Nerf]

You have to agree that getting rid of learning skills IS a good idea though.  It's just a pointless timesink.  I'd also be OK with only being able to use time accel cards on skills that aren't primary t2 skills.  Large hybrid 5 you have to train, surgical strike 5 you can buy.

[Phildo]

I like learning skills.  It's a way of rewarding diligent players who pay attention to the game's system and work smartly.  Sure, they're a pain in the ass but it's a positive in that it makes people who take the time to plan things out a little better than the people that just train skills randomly.

[Nerf]

Don't make me drag out the DDO comics

[Sparky]

I like learning skills.  It's a way of rewarding diligent players who pay attention to the game's system and work smartly.  Sure, they're a pain in the ass but it's a positive in that it makes people who take the time to plan things out a little better than the people that just train skills randomly.

They're a depressing time sink for newer players and a complete no-brainer to train.  Can't tell you how many newbies I've told "Yes optimally you'd want learning skills maxed right away, but first train yourself into something fun then tackle that ordeal".  I'm certain learning skills have chased more people out of the game than the capital ship grind.  It's the sort of cockblock this forum often bitches about.

[Jayce]

I agree with Samson, but I'm a known masochist.

[Predator Irl]

You do understand that you could sell GTCs, and buy a 50 million SP character... right? You just don't like the fact that they would get to name them or something? :P

No I understand that, thats why I said "I don't agree with being able to buy ISK for real life money or being able to buy characters".

I like learning skills.  It's a way of rewarding diligent players who pay attention to the game's system and work smartly.  Sure, they're a pain in the ass but it's a positive in that it makes people who take the time to plan things out a little better than the people that just train skills randomly.

Spot on!

[Slayerik]

Learning skills reward shit. They are a timesink and a cockblock and so many young characters get quite frustrated by them. Why do that to your playerbase?

[Amarr HM]

No I understand that, thats why I said "I don't agree with being able to buy ISK for real life money or being able to buy characters".

That's only cause you got caught 

[Predator Irl]

That's only cause you got caught 

LMAO, I was actually waiting to see how long it would take before you said that 

That was back in the early days (first month or two I think), I've a different perspective on things now.

[Slayerik]

pwned? :)

[Predator Irl]

pwned? :)

Yeah, when I started playing first, I bought 200mill worth of ISK from a website to buy my first Raven I believe. About 4 months later, CCP took it back off me and let me off with a warning lol.

[Slayerik]

happened to me for 500 mil ;)