South Park

[dusematic]

You clearly have never been to a zoo during a week day when a school group is going through.

CLEARLY.  Oh my God what kind of a fucking IMBECILE hasn't gone to a zoo on a weekday when school field trips are underway!? 

[Oban]

Thank you for taking the time to post in this thread and reminding us all what type of person you are.

[dusematic]

Thank you for taking the time to post in this thread and reminding us all what type of person you are.

Nyuk-nyuk!

[UnSub]

Rather than tar every single Asian person out there with the same brush, I can say that Japanese from highly metropolitan cultures view animals as toys. Other Asian cultures, particularly from areas where they might rely on them for food / survival? Can't say.

[Triforcer]

What do you base that on?  I've lived in Tokyo for a year, and haven't really noticed that the Japanese attitude towards animals is any different than ours.  If you mean they don't bother to say how much they love animals while chomping on a burger, while enlightened Americans say how much they love animals while chomping on a burger, then I'd say that's correct- Japanese aren't much for pretending for the sake of PC-ness.

As I understand it, the type of whale they hunt isn't actually endangered.  That being the case, them eating it is no different then us eating cow or chicken or pig.  (to be clear, the Japanese contribute greatly to overfishing and I'm against that, but whales don't fall in that category.)  The only difference, to us Westerners, is we are horrified only by the slaughter of animals we find cute.

[Ironwood]

Um.  I didn't think that was the argument against whale fishing.

I thought it was the whole Intelligent Mammal thing.

[Tige]

As I understand it, the type of whale they hunt isn't actually endangered.

The problem is they will take what ever they come across, not just the particular species allowed.  The animal is hunted, slaughtered and packaged by the time they return to port.  Factory ships have the ability to hide what is taken, not to mention the massive damage done in the collateral catch in different types of fishing like tuna and cod.  

[Murgos]

They use nets for hunting whales?  Also, I don't think you can catch cod and tuna in the same net, ground hugging inshore fish vs. high speed, deep water/open ocean fish.

Not that collateral damage from dredge netting isn't a huge issue but your sentence seems to need clarification.

[Tige]

They use nets for hunting whales?  Also, I don't think you can catch cod and tuna in the same net, ground hugging inshore fish vs. high speed, deep water/open ocean fish.

Not that collateral damage from dredge netting isn't a huge issue but your sentence seems to need clarification.

Trying to do too many things with too little coffee this morning.  That was as fucked up as a football bat.

No, tuna and cod are not caught in the same net.  Both use nets but different types, unfortunately they both swallow up vast amounts of collateral damage in the form of "trash fish" and in the case of bottom dragging nets they wipe out anything that happens to be in the swath as well.  Cod fishing is not necessarily inshore, places like Georges Banks are pretty far offshore but the shoals attract cod and many different species, only a handful are of any commercial value but that doesn't stop them from being taken. 

Over the years there has been improvement in fish harvesting such as the TED (turtle exclusion device) used by shrimpers but unfortunately steps taken have not kept the over fishing at bay, let alone reverse the obliteration of some fishing grounds and reefs. 

heh, I was just getting warmed up for a rant about ocean health when I realized; 1) I'm posting on the internet and 2) In a thread about South Park.

   

[Merusk]

Um.  I didn't think that was the argument against whale fishing.

I thought it was the whole Intelligent Mammal thing.

Fuck them.  We have to kill them before they evolve and kill us with their super mind powers, because you know they're going to be telepathic long before we as a species are.  It's about SURVIVAL, man!

[Xuri]

Kill them before they evolve? Meh. I'm from Norway. We kill whales for FUN!

EDIT: And for research purposes, of course.

[Margalis]

On topic I thought this episode sucked. IMO South Park is at its worse when it beats up celebs, pop culture and other soft targets, something that has become increasingly common as the years march on. I have no idea what "Whale Wars" is so half the episode was lost on me. And beating up on a reality tv show? Why bother.

The stuff with the Japanese was pretty good though.

[Nerf]

You should watch every episode of whale wars, its pretty funny how horrible the hippies are at what they do, which is what made this episode so goddamn funny.

HA WHALERS, YOU STINK NOW, YOU CAN'T WORK!
Uh, they spend their day covered in whale guts, I don't think it bothers them.

Gold.

[Samprimary]

I have no idea what "Whale Wars" is so half the episode was lost on me.

You fool! Whale Wars is the most unintentionally hilarious show of the decade.

Here's some things people have said about watching WHALE WARS

WIGGITY WIGGITY

WHALE WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHS

"ATTENTION YOU ARE ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, OVER. WHALE WARS"

"TO SEA, MY WHALE WARRIORS! TO SEA!"

brrrrrrrrrrrrr br br br

"SAIL ON MIGHTY WARR-OH FUCK THEY FORGOT THE DAMN SATELLITE PHONE. RETURN TO ME, MY WHALE WARRIO-COME BACK! FUCK! God damn it, get Gary in the helicopter. Gary, tell them to come back."

"I'm waving at them, I don't...YOU GUYS! CHRIST! THIS WAY! YOU'RE LITERALLY SAILING AWAY FROM THE BAD GUYS!"

*2 hours later*

"ROUND TWO. SAIL, MY WHALE WARRIORS!"

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

"HAHA! WE HAVE BOARDED THE EVIL JAPANESE FISHING BOAT! PREPARE TO FACE JUSTICE FROM THE VIGILANTE HANDS OF - oh god HELP HELP THEY'RE ALL AROUND US"

"立ち去りなさい"

"THEY'RE TALKING AT US LIKE NINJAS! WHY DIDN'T WE BRING A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON WHO SPEAKS JAPANESE?! WHALEWARS!?"

"何か。"

"WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BREAK ONTO YOUR BOAT. YOU'RE THE CRIMINALS HERE. I WILL ONLY RECOGNIZE A COURT OF WHALE LAW"

"日本語を話しなさい"

"HE HAS A GUN"

"これは魚である"

"THEY'RE TAKING US TO THE DEATH CHAMBER TO CHALLENGE THEIR IMMORTAL GOD-EMPEROR, MAYDAY, MAYDAY, WHALEWARS, OVER."

"Jesus Fucking Christ, Whale Warriors."

WHALEWARS

they were all like "this storm is rough, let's cozy up right next to this huge chunk of ice to shield us, ain't nothin wrong with this plan!"

(NIGHT TIME OCCURS)

"yawnnn. oh what's up brand new OH MY GOD WE'RE SURROUNDED BY ICE"

whale wars

they literally fail every single time they attempt to do anything, these guys are terrible

Oh, and you know how the Japanese whaling vessels have those LRAD sonic cannon things to fuck with the Sea Shepherds when they get too close to their ships? Last night, the Sea Shepherds had a bunch of their crew stand on their own deck holding satellite dishes to pretend to have their own LRAD sonic dealies. It was amazing. They just kept saying WELL IF THEY DON'T LOOK TOO HARD, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LRADS, TOO.

[insert picture of a bunch of hippies holding disconnected satellite dishes on the deck of a ship]

This is the best TV show.

The Sea Shepherds were actually firing flares at the Japanese whaling vessels last night.

They almost took out their own helicopter in doing so. I LOVE THIS SHOW.

Folks, if you missed Friday's amazing new episode of Whale Wars, keep in mind Lanky McPubestache the first mate says "No more whales will be killed today."

As a magical response sent to me from God Himself, I watched in sadistic glee as over the course of an hour, the Nisshan Maru proceeded to harpoon, shoot, and gut up FIVE WHALES. The entire episode was the Sea Shepherd's looks slack-jawed and dumbfounded at how the whalers did not give a flying shit, throwing large chunks of whale organs into the ocean. So many episodes of cockteasing and it's rewarded us with a monumental failure.

Whaling continues today.

[Evildrider]

IMO South Park is at its worse when it beats up celebs, pop culture and other soft targets, something that has become increasingly common as the years march on.

I completely disagree, these have been some of the funniest episodes of the series.

[NowhereMan]

These asshole hippies were at the Dive Show in Birmingham. I was trying to figure out who the weird dudes in pirate shirts all were, assumed it was some sort of 'cool' travel company. This aired about a week later and I wish I'd had the opportunity to mock them.

[Triforcer]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251889

This season really has a "Matt and Trey look out the window and write an entire episode about something they see and hate" vibe to it. 

[01101010]

Kill them before they evolve? Meh. I'm from Norway. We kill whales for FUN!

EDIT: And for research purposes, of course.

I can fully support this notion IF the people whaling are limited to old school whaling, canoes and hand-thrown harpoons. 

[NowhereMan]

Fuck that, they can kill as many whales as they like so long as they do it with their bare hands. We can be generous though, they can use a boat to get out to the whales.

[NiX]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251889

This season really has a "Matt and Trey look out the window and write an entire episode about something they see and hate" vibe to it. And it's GLORIOUS!

Fixed.

[Samwise]

Merged!   

[Evildrider]

Are there any fags on this board?   

[NowhereMan]

No but I am bike-curious.

This episode also reminded me of a total crazy on a US conservative message boards who always makes a point of saying that homosexuals aren't gay and that they've somehow corrupted a poor innocent happy word so insists that they should all be called fags. I really hope he saw this and his head exploded.

[Margalis]

The biker fags episode made the whale wars episode look stellar by comparison. This has been a very weak season so far.

[sidereal]

It was dumb.

Also, it was weirdly monotonic.  Most South Park episodes have at least a couple of miniplots threaded through them.  This was just 'Let's call bikers fags instead of gay people' and. . yeah.  Nice work.

[Paelos]

What do you expect? They are out of ideas and latch on to any pop culture issue. It's pretty much what the Simpson's have tried to do for the last 7 years.

[Arnold]

Um.  I didn't think that was the argument against whale fishing.

I thought it was the whole Intelligent Mammal thing.

What if Orca whales are herding the prey whales to the whalers, alerting the whalers if they happen to be asleep in their beds,  and assisting in the kill?

I saw this great documentary on PBS about that.

[Sir T]

Captain Planet is on his way to bust you up for that anti-nature propoganda!

[NowhereMan]

Orcas are clearly the Vichy France of marine mammals.

[Triforcer]

The opening scene of "Dances with Smurfs" is about the funniest scene to come out of South Park in 3 or 4 seasons.  You'll first go  , then  , followed by  and a guilty 

[K9]

Pee was really good I thought; the jokes were simpler and more surreal. The episodes which hinge on a pop-culture reference are not bad per se, but they definitely diminish if you don't know the reference. This meant Whale Wars was pretty blah for me, and I spoke to a friend who had never heard of Glen Beck and he found the Dances with Smurfs episode pretty much the same.

[Ratman_tf]

I like South Park best when it's pee jokes. Making fun of celebrities and politicians and their pet annoyance of the week is rarely as entertaining.

[Margalis]

I like South Park best when it's pee jokes. Making fun of celebrities and politicians and their pet annoyance of the week is rarely as entertaining.

This.

The absurdity of the monkeys getting angry when their faces were pissed on was great.

[Samwise]

South Park peaked in its first season IMO.

[Lakov_Sanite]

South Park peaked in its first season IMO.

When you realize how old south park is, you may find this statement depressing.