Heroes

[HaemishM]

And after a brief glimmer of hope, it goes right back to shit. Even the Sylar part with his father was disappointing as hell. I like that actor - totally wasted in what was essentially a monologue with himself. Why the fuck am I still watching this shit? Why would Claire help out Doyle - what the fuck did he do to convince her he's changed? And why the fuck would she care if he had? He practically raped her and both her moms. And how did Danko NOT figure this out earlier? And yeah, Bennet should have just judo'ed that motherfucker Danko right out the window with Nathan.

[sigil]

I've stopped watching.  I think it was a month or so ago, maybe less...

[Jobu]

I bet Rebel is little old Mika.

[Nevermore]

You mean Micah?  That's my guess, too.  Although to be honest, I find myself not really caring much one way or the other about any of the current plot threads.  The show just isn't very good anymore but it's not as horrible as it was there for a while, now it's just meh.

[Venkman]

^^^ So its ham fisted LOOK AT OUR REAL WORLD RELEVANCE BITCHES!! kind of stuff?

Well.. fuck.   

Yea, honestly, that was my thought. For some reason, certain shows can't resist their current events allegories. The realm of the uncreative. Or the realm of middle management. Probably both.

[CmdrSlack]

The nice thing about Heroes is that every time it jumps the shark, you can just pretend that Hiro took the show back in time to the moment before it jumped the shark, thus giving us an endless loop of "ok, it's getting better," then another shark jump.

That said, it's good enough to watch on the DVR when I have time on a Tuesday or Wednesday.

[Tale]

I've stopped watching.  I think it was a month or so ago, maybe less...

Same, I only read this thread.

[DLRiley]

The problem is if you don't watch Heroes, your probably a one more canceled/concluded series away from stop watching television. Unless your one of those poor dumb bastards who still think American Idol is quality television. I'm about two shows away from stop watching television once heroes runs its course.

[Cyrrex]

/sigh

I didn't hate it, but that just isn't fucking good enough.  I've got 3 seasons of Battlestar Galactica on my HDD that I've yet to see.  Somebody please tell me I'm going to love it.

[NowhereMan]

I'd almost suggest skipping season 2 but at the very least it's watchable, especially when you see it in one or two big gos.

[Samwise]

Yeah, BSG is much better when you can watch multiple episodes at a stretch.  The biggest problem with it is not enough happening in any one episode.

[Jeff Kelly]

After catching up with Season 3 (stopped watching at 308) I am baffled as to why they renewed Heroes and leave Chuck (an order of magnitude better than Heroes) out in the cold.

[Nevermore]

Chuck wasn't renewed? 

[Reg]

Chuck is getting worse ratings than Heroes. But there's been no official word one way or the other about whether it's getting renewed.

[DevilsAdvocate25]

I bet Rebel is little old Mika.

More than likely Rebel is the Israeli woman they were calling Network. She can control any computer system with her mind. They introduced her in the web comic and then featured her in one episode where she convinced Ted to stop hiding out in the middle of the Nevada desert and go help the heroes. Of course, this ultimately led to Ted's death by Sylar. All this happened way back in Season 1.

[Tebonas]

I think Mika "repaired" Hannah, as she was disposed of in the Web Comics but he can repair all things technical.

[Samwise]

I thought in the webcomics Hana transferred her consciousness into a communications satellite before her body died, or something wacky like that?

[Tebonas]

There were webcomics after that. In her last one, she was presumably deleted while being on a mainframe.

[Lakov_Sanite]

mika's power isn't repairing machines, it's essentially controlling them and hasn't shown any upper limit afaik. He can repair them or he can interface and control them. Now whether he can actually fix hardware and manipulate that or simply bypass it hasn't really been explained yet.

[Cyrrex]

I'm not even sure his abilities are limited to machines.  Didn't his cousin - the muscle mimic - not begin to show any sign of ability until he gave her a little hug and then some glowy thing happened with his hand on her back?  I always thought that he somehow gave her the power.

[Venkman]

I thought in the webcomics Hana transferred her consciousness into a communications satellite before her body died, or something wacky like that?

Yea, I was thinking Hana could be Rebel.

[Samprimary]

For fuck's sake. Why can't this show just settle into being irredeemably bad? Why does it have to hover tantalizingly above that point, low enough to hemorrhage viewers, but high enough to avoid assured cancellation?

[Grimwell]

What??

that was a good episode.

[Samwise]

Micah is back, Ali Larter's latest poorly-written character is dead, Ando learned hadoken, and Hiro has some of his power back (with a predictable nerf).  Things are looking up.

[Merusk]

Thing about Ali being dead is.. her sharded face winked.

Wtf?

[Samwise]

I missed that.  Maybe now she's like the Sandman from Batman and she has an icy form can reconstitute itself by melting and re-freezing?  That would be lame, but since they can't seem to let go of Ali I suppose it wouldn't be shocking.

[Merusk]

Yeah it was really quick.  I thought I was mistaking a cliche 'water melts as a tear' for a wink at first, but my wife said "did you see her wink?" when we were discussing it later.   I had the same thought about the "ice form" thing, but more a-la Bobby Drake not the Sandman.

[Grimwell]

I read it as a tear and a blink, like most people do when they cry.

Not as a wink.

I'm guessing she won't be totally dead, but with the Pushing Daisies writer back on the show, all characters stand to improve. Even hers.

[HaemishM]

It was a great improvement over the last few weeks, but I hated that they killed Daphne. Better to just have let her die back when we first thought she died then to bring her back for one manipulative tear-jerker moment. It felt decidedly out of place.

Agree on Ali Larter's Ice Queen. She did wink. Which sucks, because I was actually happy to see her annoying ass dead. Here's hoping they keep her dead and the writing keeps improving. They have a long way to go.

[Grimwell]

At least Daphne got a good death. It wasn't shit writing or choppy; it was good for the character development of Parkman as a side bonus.

[Hawkbit]

Time to see some fucking powers, please.  They need to ramp it up.

Ali Larter's got at least one more clone we know about, what's the next one going to be?  I didn't see her wink, I saw her eye closing... ending the character. 

And Daphne's death was weak.  We went through six weeks of waiting for Parkman to find her and she dies of an infection?  The show insults my intelligence sometimes.

[Merusk]

Was this one with a new writer? Daphne's death gave me the sense that the writers were coming back to give a better close to Daphne than 'omg she was shot, now she's gone.'  Yeah, the infection was a shitty death, but guess what, people die in shitty, stupid ways.  It felt real to me, particularly since it was sepsis and that's nasty, and it was a better send-off than they'd done to other Heroes.

[Grimwell]

We went through six weeks of waiting for Parkman to find her and she dies of an infection?  The show insults my intelligence sometimes.

Bah, step back and grab a factoid.
Bryan Fuller came back to the show on this episode. The show is a mess, the writing has been crap, we have more characters than we can track or they can even respectably show through the medium and the plot has become "powers" instead of "characters."

It's not an insult, it's a good writer saying "You fuckers did WHAT? For how long???"

Killing Daphne, it's a solution. Get her out of the show and it's one less power and one less thread to track. Same with Tracy, and I hope she's gone even if she's not. He's a better writer than the folks who have delivered the most recent work, and this episode showed it. Killing pointless characters? That's just extra win for me. I'm hoping for a nice consistent culling over the next few episodes. Lots of shock value, and lots of plot narrowing. Please.

[kaid]

Now if only they can kill mohinder because he is clearly to stupid to exist. I think he has to meet some clinical definition of insanity he keeps doing the same shit again and again and expecting a different result.

[Xuri]

Why is it that every single time Hiro and Ando pop up a smile forms on my face? They are beyond awesome. The rest, meh.