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Reply #1330 on: November 19, 2009, 12:42:16 PM

My friend was digging around in the game files and found reference to "Single player campaign" and "Multiplayer". Please let them add multiplayer to this. PLEASE.
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Reply #1331 on: November 19, 2009, 02:08:29 PM

Is multiplayer fun with all of that talking though? It's only a rompfest in doses.
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Reply #1332 on: November 19, 2009, 02:11:50 PM

I would kind of suspect that the main use multiplayer would get in DA would be the same as it is in BG2 - nobody actually plays BG2 multiplayer, they just do it in order to create every character in their party themselves.

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Reply #1333 on: November 19, 2009, 02:54:48 PM

Is multiplayer fun with all of that talking though? It's only a rompfest in doses.

I imagine it would be more for player-made campaigns.
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Reply #1334 on: November 19, 2009, 05:20:00 PM

I would kind of suspect that the main use multiplayer would get in DA would be the same as it is in BG2 - nobody actually plays BG2 multiplayer, they just do it in order to create every character in their party themselves.


I've totally played BG2 with a buddy before. We got to like act 3 before something shiny distracted us.

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Reply #1335 on: November 19, 2009, 06:36:41 PM

I would kind of suspect that the main use multiplayer would get in DA would be the same as it is in BG2 - nobody actually plays BG2 multiplayer, they just do it in order to create every character in their party themselves.


I've totally played BG2 with a buddy before. We got to like act 3 before something shiny distracted us.

My wife and I start in BG1, played tales, then BG2 and Bha'al. It cane be done and is quite fun.

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Reply #1336 on: November 19, 2009, 06:57:34 PM

Huh news to me, but I didn't realize Tim Curry did Howe's voice.

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Reply #1337 on: November 19, 2009, 07:38:57 PM

I recognized Kate Mulgrew right away, but totally didn't catch Tim Curry in there. Awesome.

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Reply #1338 on: November 19, 2009, 07:59:46 PM

Tim Curry can vary his voice.  Kate Mulgrew is always Kate Mulgrew. tongue

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Reply #1339 on: November 19, 2009, 08:20:59 PM

Tim Curry as Howe is a waste of Tim Curry.
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Reply #1340 on: November 19, 2009, 08:24:08 PM

There are a lot of good actors in it, whoever they are. I was reading that there are 144 actors in total... making it the biggest cast for a game yet. I'm pretty sure I read that right. Kind of ridiculous if you think about it.

Tim Curry as Howe is a waste of Tim Curry.

Howe kind of forces me to be a goody goody when playing a human noble. Not doing so would be too much prick for one game.
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Reply #1341 on: November 19, 2009, 09:47:24 PM

Wow I totally didn't recognize Flemeth's voice and now I can't imagine how I missed it.

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Reply #1342 on: November 19, 2009, 11:15:46 PM

Heh. Neat moment where I went back to the mage tower...

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Reply #1343 on: November 20, 2009, 02:28:11 AM

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They're using a "matrix". It's a 2^8 by 2^24 array (It's jagged in either case, so it's never actually a matrix. Not that two-dimensional arrays should be called matrices. Matrix is very strictly defined mathematical concept, not just any collection arranged in n dimensions.) What you did mean was "should have used a larger datatype."

Now you're going to say, again, "but I'm right in principle", or "I generalized", or something to that effect. awesome, for real But whatever, dude!

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Reply #1344 on: November 20, 2009, 03:11:31 AM

Huh news to me, but I didn't realize Tim Curry did Howe's voice.

Capt Janeway is Flemeth.

I'm pretty sure that Tuvok voiced the elf leader, and Nelix was the shopkeeper in the dwarf town right by the entrance to the diamond quarter (by the nug hunter)
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Reply #1345 on: November 20, 2009, 06:25:17 AM

Huh news to me, but I didn't realize Tim Curry did Howe's voice.

Capt Janeway is Flemeth.

I'm pretty sure that Tuvok voiced the elf leader, and Nelix was the shopkeeper in the dwarf town right by the entrance to the diamond quarter (by the nug hunter)

Guess they couldn't afford to hire voice talent from any good Star Trek series.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1346 on: November 20, 2009, 07:02:05 AM

The Fade part SUCKS.

No, it's totally sweet once you get all the forms. It's like having godmode for a while, very fitting.
Even before I got the forms I was enjoying it. Nice twist to the gameplay and a break from the regular style. They could probably make a dragon age game set in the fade with the mechanic of changing between forms for different powers, expand it into more of a puzzle game, even.

Anyway, just finished the tower last night and the fade was a lot of fun. Got enough stat boosts out of it to equip the blood dragon armor: it's pretty cheesy looking, especially the helmet. Luckily, the Honnleath helmet is better, so I do save some dignity. I might even go back to the Warden armor from soldier's peak if I can conquer my minmax gene. Seeing Alistair in the cool armor while I'm wearing the zomg1337 blood dragon armor is painful.
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Reply #1347 on: November 20, 2009, 07:31:55 AM

The Mage Tower bit in the fade is my hands down most favorite part of the game. I also agree that the form changes were awesome.
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Reply #1348 on: November 20, 2009, 07:36:51 AM

Yea gimmick mechanics and poorly designed levels are fun! You liked the water levels in zelda titles didn't you?
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Reply #1349 on: November 20, 2009, 07:42:11 AM

You liked the water levels in zelda titles didn't you?

People that answer yes to that question need to be shot on sight.

Just did the tower on my second play through.   Easy, easy area outside of getting insta-gibbed by the templar swarm.

Where's the Claudia Black love? It would have been interesting if they tried to keep her dialog more consistently like her initial encounters.  It slips in and out that style.  Shale's dialog is fantastic throughout.  Sounds like Judie Dench with a head cold.

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Reply #1350 on: November 20, 2009, 07:45:08 AM

Oh the mage area was the easiest area in the game for me. Was packing a full cold tree. Stuff died before it ever went aggro. Doesn't make it a good level though.
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Reply #1351 on: November 20, 2009, 07:45:51 AM

*shrug* I enjoyed the fade bit (except running around every map in the end to make sure I didn't miss any stats) quite a bit


I expect it will be soul suckingly boring on a second playthrough though.
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Reply #1352 on: November 20, 2009, 07:58:00 AM

Yea gimmick mechanics and poorly designed levels are fun!

I had fun flipping through the forms to get different abilities and thought it cool to be "in the Fade". I'm sorry you didn't. /shrug
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Reply #1353 on: November 20, 2009, 08:07:13 AM

Oh the mage area was the easiest area in the game for me. Was packing a full cold tree. Stuff died before it ever went aggro. Doesn't make it a good level though.

Nope, it doesn't.  I think it's probably the weakest out of the four.  Shale, Leiliana, Wynne and an underdeveloped arcane warrior had no problems with it.  Basically all Wynne could do was heal. 

I'm going somewhat puppy kicker with this group but I can't make myself pull the trigger on some of the more heinous decisions.  I don't think I'll be able to do the bad Orzammar choice with Shale around.

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Reply #1354 on: November 20, 2009, 08:25:36 AM

The "bad" Orzammar choice is the only smart one. I had zero qualms picking that one.

Letting the  made me uneasy though.

Zevran went  ACK!, but I told him to man up and act like an assassin instead of a bitch, so he calmed down.
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Reply #1355 on: November 20, 2009, 08:29:44 AM

The "bad" Orzammar choice is the only smart one. I had zero qualms picking that one.

I wasn't at all happy with how my Orzammar turned out and wished I'd had more options with the king and the anvil lines and more information about the potential kings. 

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Reply #1356 on: November 20, 2009, 08:41:14 AM

I ran around the whole dwarf area looking for a different option other than the two idiots available.  I though I might be able to put a casteless guy on the throne to go 'fuck you' to everyone else.
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Reply #1357 on: November 20, 2009, 08:46:10 AM

I ran around the whole dwarf area looking for a different option other than the two idiots available.  I though I might be able to put a casteless guy on the throne to go 'fuck you' to everyone else.


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Reply #1358 on: November 20, 2009, 09:33:54 AM

My eye twitches everytime I can't open a chest.

Almost makes me reroll a rogue right away.

But then I remember the lightning.
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Reply #1359 on: November 20, 2009, 09:46:08 AM

Murdering pretty much everyone everywhere is the easiest way to get good gear. I ended up doing all the horrible bad things I could throughout the game, then doing the 'self-sacrifice' ending to finish. Got the cheery happy ending too.
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Reply #1360 on: November 20, 2009, 09:57:11 AM

Honestly, nothing you do really affects anything significantly. I let Redcliffe burn to the ground, but it wasn't like anyone was very upset past the initial "You bastard! Ok, now we need you again." You can happily kick and murder every damn creature in the game and people still idolize you. Party members you can usually bribe enough with gifts to get them to stick around.

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Reply #1361 on: November 20, 2009, 10:10:27 AM

I enjoy making a character concept and trying to stick with it. My current character is a snarky, slightly amoral warrior with a good heart and a crush on Morrigan, and a deep hatred for  Demons. I refuse to make deals with them and always kill them.

So far I have done:

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Reply #1362 on: November 20, 2009, 11:37:02 AM

They're using a "matrix". It's a 2^8 by 2^24 array (It's jagged in either case, so it's never actually a matrix. Not that two-dimensional arrays should be called matrices. Matrix is very strictly defined mathematical concept, not just any collection arranged in n dimensions.) What you did mean was "should have used a larger datatype.

It's only a multi-dimensional array in the sense that this is an array of ranges 2^1 x 2^3:

Code:
array 0..15 [Comment: 0-7 is x=1, 8-15 is x=2]

Which is to say, not at all, stop being a fuckwit, because you're only right in principle.
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Reply #1363 on: November 20, 2009, 11:51:18 AM

Um, no it's almost identical to an array[256][16777216] and pretty much nothing similar to a memory leak or anything to do with memory management at all.
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Reply #1364 on: November 20, 2009, 11:57:30 AM

Enchantment?

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