Star Trek Online: Here We Go Again!

[apocrypha]

So many broken dreams lie shattered on the backs of nifty screenshots released years early...  or something like that.

[Ratman_tf]

Cryptic Studios will reveal the first gameplay footage from Star Trek Online on Sunday, August 10, 2008, at the Official Star Trek® Convention in Las Vegas.

And that's what the next countdown is for.

And will be much more interesting and telling than a few screenshots of spacescapes and landscapes, and a couple paragraphs telling us how cool Star Trek Online is going to be.

[Mrbloodworth]

humm....

I am very interested in how they are approaching this. I, hope its not like eve, or other games where you crew is really just a collection of stats. I want interiors, and bridge stations with multi player interiors.

Oh, and things like the delta flyer should be twitch, while the larger ships are more eve like in use.

[HaemishM]

How... underwhelming. Anti-climactic even. What's the point of releasing screenshots that show nothing but terrain? It's pretty, but tells me fuckall about the gameplay, which is all I really care about.

[Mrbloodworth]

And I want a leprechaun that shits $100 bills, sequentially, and can turn into Scarlett Johannson on command. But you know, we don't all get what we want.

yeah *sniff* i know. 

[Murgos]

How... underwhelming. Anti-climactic even. What's the point of releasing screenshots that show nothing but terrain? It's pretty, but tells me fuckall about the gameplay, which is all I really care about.

Well, for a game call Star Trek, it's at least a good sign that they have space, ground and space ships.  This, by default, makes it closer to the source material than Star Wars Galaxies or Dungeon and Dragons Online.

[Samwise]

Do you REALLY want to know what the STO gameplay is going to be like?  Really?

[kildorn]

All I know is it won't be Star Trek unless half your technology is completely useless/broken every time you encounter something.

You should get an army of redshirts that act as a HP buffer, though.

[HaemishM]

Do you REALLY want to know what the STO gameplay is going to be like?  Really?

Yes. Disappointment tastes like apple jolly ranchers at this point. Sour apple jolly ranchers.

[Evildrider]

Do you REALLY want to know what the STO gameplay is going to be like?  Really?

Yes. Disappointment tastes like apple jolly ranchers at this point. Sour apple jolly ranchers.

But those are good!  Watermelon is best though!

[Merusk]

All I know is it won't be Star Trek unless half your technology is completely useless/broken every time you encounter something.

You should get an army of redshirts that act as a HP buffer, though.

That's brilliant.  No more HP meters.. instead you get a "Redshirt meter."  Instead of healers/ clerics you have engineers who beam-in more troops.   

Everything is fixable by a tachyon pulse, inverting polarity, applying anti-matter or reconfiguring the deflector shield.  Or some combination of the three.*

*I've been watching Classic Trek in the mornings on TVLand.  I recently noticed it falls into the same problem as TNG but everything was anti-matter instead of tachyons.

[Diamonds]

The screenshots look good, but I'm half-convinced they are concept art. They look too good, in a way.

I too also thought it was concept art at first. They're real. My favorite is this one: http://www.startrekonline.com/gallery/screenshots/?img=12764

[UnSub]

The screenshots look good, but I'm half-convinced they are concept art. They look too good, in a way.

I too also thought it was concept art at first. They're real. My favorite is this one: http://www.startrekonline.com/gallery/screenshots/?img=12764

Are you Diamonds of Cryptic Studios? If so: 1) get a red shirt name from one of the kindly mods, and 2) fix that website error I pm'd you about!

If not... well, here's what is on STO's 404 page:



EDIT: oh, and I'm impressed by the screenshots in that case. I look forward to seeing the footage to see how it looks in action.

[Diamonds]

1) Thnx for redname whoever.
2) Replied

404 page is an easter egg

[NiX]

Fresh meat

[Ratman_tf]

Fresh meat

Fuck yea.

So, Diamond. Welcome to hell. Can you spill any beans or just lurking for now? 

[SnakeCharmer]

The feeling I get when looking at those screenshots is a 'meh'.

[Soln]

postcount++    ++

won't be so hard. 

Observe:

hearthstones == deh teleport
firebal == lazurs
mounts == pew pew ships

all has been revealed.  DDO (I know not of Cryptic) in Space. 

[Reg]

Oh good. Someone from Cryptic is here. Now's my chance to work off that grudge I've been nursing about that scrapper nerf from a few years ago! 

[Nevermore]

We've had at least one other person from Cryptic here in the past.  They don't seem to last on this site long. 

[HaemishM]

A Cryptic person. YAY. We eat our own young here. 

Let's just get the stupid shit out of the way.

The grind in COH sucks and is the reason I stopped playing it. Stop it right now. I know you can do it.

Star Trek Online? Really? You really think this game won't suck copious amounts of Dikugrindy ass and bring about much Trekkie fanbois wailing and gnashing of the teeth? Because you know it will, and I will enjoy every delicious minute.

Also, seriously. That gring thing? Stop it.

[Nevermore]

A Cryptic person. YAY. We eat our own young here. 

Let's just get the stupid shit out of the way.

The grind in COH sucks and is the reason I stopped playing it. Stop it right now. I know you can do it.

Star Trek Online? Really? You really think this game won't suck copious amounts of Dikugrindy ass and bring about much Trekkie fanbois wailing and gnashing of the teeth? Because you know it will, and I will enjoy every delicious minute.

Also, seriously. That gring thing? Stop it.

Cryptic sold CoH to NCsoft.  The best you can do is tell them not to put grind in any of their new games.

[Ghambit]

Is this not just going to be the continuation of Perpetual's project?  It's fuzzy but I recall Cryptic scored all the code in the deal... not sure about the art assets (the screenies look creepily familiar to Perp's newer design though, same art style).

As for the Cryptic newbie that's just arrived:
1)  Photorealism
2)  Sandbox

[both are moot since the console bandwagon is jumped.. but I can dream the impossible dream]

-end of line

[UnSub]

Cryptic scored everything but the code from P2.

According to my short stay on the STO boards - it's Trekkies, it's ugly and scary there - there have been some big changes compared to P2's plans. Such as everyone being a captain of a ship and the fact you can play as either Federation or Klingon Empire. P2 lore had the Klingons wound into the Federation, not as a separate entity, while I don't think it was confirmed the player would start as a Captain.

[Tannhauser]

Random thoughts...

Let me solo in my own ship OR get others to join me in mine which makes my ship much more effective.  If I have a ship crew of 4 my ship should be an even challenge for 4 ships of the same class flying solo.

Please cook in a lot of lore, ST has it like crazy. 

Space AND Planets, great looking avatars for both ships and humanoids.

Lots and lots to explore.  I mean lots.  I should be able to hit max level and there is still content I haven't seen yet.  That is for my alts. 

Interesting space debris, planetary ruins, easter eggs, just little stuff hidden away that always gives my explorer heart a thrill to find.

[apocrypha]

Has there been anything said about when in the ST timeline this will be set? What I'm getting at is are the humans and klingons tolerating each other or will there be pvp? 

[Ghambit]

Cryptic scored everything but the code from P2.

According to my short stay on the STO boards - it's Trekkies, it's ugly and scary there - there have been some big changes compared to P2's plans. Such as everyone being a captain of a ship and the fact you can play as either Federation or Klingon Empire. P2 lore had the Klingons wound into the Federation, not as a separate entity, while I don't think it was confirmed the player would start as a Captain.

Thanks for the clarification.  I knew they scored SOMETHING big out of the deal - I just got it backwards.  So they got all the art assets but NOT the code (which explains the similar art style).  That's actually a promising thing IMO, because I didnt like the new direction Perp was taking the game (and neither does anyone else for that matter).  I'll nerf the photorealism if fps and game design are improved.

Really, all they have to do with this game is take elements from EnB and Starflight and they're done.  EnB had exploration and easter eggs galore - I used to spend hours freewarping all over the place.  And Starflight?  nuff said there...  with today's real-time rendering tech. you could easily create the largest virtual universe ever envisioned.

While I'd love to see the STO Sandbox a reality, they'd really have to push the envelope to pull it off.  MMO devs arent known for their envelope-pushing, unless it's got an invoice in it.  However, employing the K.I.S.S. method, I'd just leave the Sandbox to the crewed ships only and make them floating player cities, allowing everyone to be their own Captain on Defiant-class ships or smalller, but for the greater good of the Federation (guild, clan, etc.) apply their goods/services towards a Galaxy class starship everyone can crew or just simply live on.

Use Metagames (already out there) for repairing plasma conduits, aligning the Heisenberg compensators, manually firing photon torps, shield modulation, etc. etc.  You can temper the player-skill metagames with systems that take character skill and "effort-management" (i.e. stamina, focus, etc.) into account; they're are already out there - ala the "Battlestations" boardgame, or just about any PnP game there is.  I could go on and on with this crap.

[WayAbvPar]

And I want a leprechaun that shits $100 bills, sequentially, and can turn into Scarlett Johannson on command. But you know, we don't all get what we want.

This is just so full of win I had to quote it again. I actually did choke on my beverage when I read it.

[WayAbvPar]

Is it too late to make advancement something other than levels? PLEASE?

[Ghambit]

And I want a leprechaun that shits $100 bills, sequentially, and can turn into Scarlett Johannson on command. But you know, we don't all get what we want.

Why not just have Scarlett shit the $100 bills directly and skip the Leprechauns entirely?  That way, in the back of your mind you're not confronted with the realization you're wanting to phuck a Leprechaun... just a Hollywood Hottie that shyts c-notes.

Thankfully, all money is washable - but I'm sure Scarlett's poo does smell of roses anyways.  Leprechaun poo probably just smells like ass.

[Drugstore Space Cowboy]

Is it too late to make advancement something other than levels? PLEASE?

WAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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AAAAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No seriously, this is bringing tears to my eyes it's so funny.

Go on. Say it again. Say it.

Is it too late to make advancement something other than levels? PLEASE?

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Cyrrex]

Erm...uhahuhhuhhaha...wait.  I don't get it.

Crazy idea for all current and future MMOs based on a major IP (Trek, SW, whatever):  Make it an alternate reality.  Make it clear to your fanbois that none of the old canon necessarily applies.  Star Trek Bizarro world.  Star Wars Eternities.  Kirk is a virgin, and Luke turns to the Dark Side.  No expectations and no promises.

[Signe]

Star Trek, Star Gate, I'm starting to get everything confused.  Someone needs to change the name of something!

[UnSub]

Kirk is a virgin

... and a million slash fic writers cry out, and are then silenced.

[Lantyssa]

Is it too late to make advancement something other than levels? PLEASE?

No problem.  Now you advance by ranks!