AoC vs WAR vs ? - Biggest Launch Disappointment 2008

[Hoax]

So, internets, where is my boob size comparison chart for AoC and WAR? 

I'm waiting.

[Lantyssa]

The boob size comparision people got sidetracked when they learned AoC has nipples.

Does WAR have nipples?  Well does it?  HUH!?

[photek]

The boob size comparision people got sidetracked when they learned AoC has nipples.

Does WAR have nipples?  Well does it?  HUH!?

I simply adore your avatar. I shall have one like that one day, and he shall be mine, and I shall name him Bob, and I will cuddle and squeeze him until he dies. Then I shall put him in da stew.

On the other hand : Warhammer doesn't need nipples. It has Warhammer. And Warhammer is far superior to the Conan universe on its own! Note that I love both, but in depth the Warhammer universe is far more appealing to me than the Barbarian. I love both though.

[rk47]

im just waiting till War comes out so I can compare both side by side. I'm not that desperate for MMO fix at the moment. But AOC is surprisingly full of positives impressions from the early adopters right now. 

[UnSub]

I am shocked that AoC is having a smooth-ish launch. Shocked.

In future, when the devs talk about a magic just-before-release patch that fixes everything and was programmed by angels, I will be less cynical and more believing.

[Slayerik]

AoC to me is not a launch disappointment at all, kind of the opposite.

[tazelbain]

WAR is rated T for teens.  And everyone knows teens hate boobs.

[Miasma]

Yes the AoC launch seems quite successful, it might be a tough act for WAR to follow, especially in the graphics department.  By the time WAR comes out most people will be in the AoC endgame PvP and funcom will have had time to fix a bunch of problems with their systems.

I am worried that easily half of the AoC population consists of WoW players who will go poof in either the first couple months or when Lich King comes out though.

[shiznitz]

That won't matter. 3-6 months of 300-400k subs will put enough money in Funcom's bank to polish AoC quite well over the next 12 months.  The real question is how they prioritize what to tweak.  For example, a CoX-style "purple nerf" would be bad.

[Montague]

Yes the AoC launch seems quite successful, it might be a tough act for WAR to follow, especially in the graphics department.  By the time WAR comes out most people will be in the AoC endgame PvP and funcom will have had time to fix a bunch of problems with their systems.

I am worried that easily half of the AoC population consists of WoW players who will go poof in either the first couple months or when Lich King comes out though.

I'm not going back. The adult feel of AOC extends beyond just the tits and blood. It's darker and more low-fantasyish and appeals much more to me than the toony graphics and loot pinata "E-sport" that WoW has become.

[Mrbloodworth]

The mature really extends beyond tits and blood. Dialog subject matter is also adult, so are the themes for most things, including areas and world.

[Engels]

I love the newbie quest to take the shirts from homeless people. That ruled.

[Morfiend]

I am going to take back what I said, this isn't Hellgate style failure. For the first time ever the "miracle patch" actually worked as intended. It fixed a bunch of the performance issues, and also a bunch of the bugs. There are still a lot of both, but the patch was good enough that the release wasn't a total clusterfuck.

[ShenMolo]

Yes the AoC launch seems quite successful, it might be a tough act for WAR to follow, especially in the graphics department.  By the time WAR comes out most people will be in the AoC endgame PvP and funcom will have had time to fix a bunch of problems with their systems.

I am worried that easily half of the AoC population consists of WoW players who will go poof in either the first couple months or when Lich King comes out though.

For me the WoW expansion seems like more of the same. I didn't even bother with the Sunwell stuff. Nothing to see here...move along.

[stray]

From the look of their boards, yes, a lot of wow people. "I was this and this in WoW" blah blah blah.

[shiznitz]

This game has to shake up the MMOG industry somewhat. I hope at least. Go back at look at WAR. AoC has everything and more. Those witch bitches have nothing on the Cimmerian chicks. There are a ton of things that an MMOG starting development today would do differently than an MMOG starting 6 months ago post-AoC. If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

[stray]

I never thought it'd be a clusterfuck.. I was pretty familiar with the world before, and knew it'd be hard to fuck up. Easily a 300-400k game (not sure what i posted exactly in falc's thread). NOW, however, I think it's sort of clusterfuck to put such stringent requirements on the thing. That's not a failure really... But they should have aimed for a wider audience. Most people aren't in uber geek with an uber rig category. And don't care to be. Hell, just some dynamic reduction of polygons would do.

[Nebu]

If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

I keep hearing about "innovations" in AoC, but can't remember being blown away by anything new in the open beta.  What are these "innovative" features that you're referring to?

[Wershlak]

If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

I keep hearing about "innovations" in AoC, but can't remember being blown away by anything new in the open beta.  What are these "innovative" features that you're referring to?

Nipples.

[stray]

And blood.

It's a whole motherly attachement thing.

[Fordel]

I was really hoping it was going to be a AO/VG colossal failure :(

I am not entertained!

[Dtrain]

If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

I keep hearing about "innovations" in AoC, but can't remember being blown away by anything new in the open beta.  What are these "innovative" features that you're referring to?

As someone who plays a lot of tank classes, I appreciate the level of interactivity you can opt to engage in by allocating your "shields," becoming a more effective tank in the process.

And of course, that's on top of the rest of the directional combat system.

[Trippy]

If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

I keep hearing about "innovations" in AoC, but can't remember being blown away by anything new in the open beta.  What are these "innovative" features that you're referring to?

Nipples.

Decapitations though oddly enough I'm currently playing a class that can't do them (blunt weapon user).

[Numtini]

The decaps seem to interrupt the animations or something. It's like a lag spike.

Of course it's probably worse for the victim...

[Megrim]

If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

I keep hearing about "innovations" in AoC, but can't remember being blown away by anything new in the open beta.  What are these "innovative" features that you're referring to?

Nipples.

Decapitations though oddly enough I'm currently playing a class that can't do them (blunt weapon user).

Which is rediculous tbh, because all you really have to do is just hit someone hard enough.... 

[Venkman]

All of the "adult" graphics and dialog would mean a lot more if there was any choice in this game. Once you get beyond the cone-of-fire thing with melee weapons, and even if you have a rig that can handle the pretty, you're still in a diku playing towards way-unfinished mid-game content (don't even think "endgame" yet) and a whole bunch features that may come someday. Maybe.

This launch proves a) that timing is everything; and, b) people do want to have hope.

I was really hoping it was going to be a AO/VG colossal failure :(

I am not entertained!

[schild]

You know, some time between 3 and 4am yesterday I realized it.

Conan is SWG + Good Combat - Stupid + a more compelling world - a gay lucas tainted assy world + awesome classes - image designers + a vastly superior housing and pvp system.

Basically, it's what SWG should've been and then some.

Between the exploration and customization and keyboard spamming (though, without the dumbass buffering of keys), I realized last night that this game should've come out in 2002 and that this industry is pretty poopy and completely not house-broken. It's still shitting itself.

Anyway, AOC is awesome. It has that thing nothing else had. And don't pull that fucking timing shit on me Darniaq, you punk, because I haven't done dick with an MMOG since Guild Wars, I have a 9 foot hard-on for Metal Gear Solid and somehow AoC has sucked 60+ hours out of my last week.

[stray]

I'm probably just as jaded as Schild, and I'm inclined to a degree. I don't feel like trolling mmog threads and saying they all suck anymore.

Could it be better? Yes... But it does improve in some basic ways where it really counts.

Not sure about the SWG comparison though. Haven't been able to compare housing and building and crafting...

[cmlancas]

I have a 9 foot hard-on

See a doctor. Immediately.

Sorry, there's just not enough disappointment or lulz in this thread. The thread is in dire need of a derail.

[Signe]

He only has to see the doctor if it lasts for more than 4 hours.

[Venkman]

And don't pull that fucking timing shit on me Darniaq

Wasn't talking about you. However, I do feel like you, circa November 2004 when you were bitching about all of fandom for a game that was largely a reskin-done-better of EQ1. Guess it's my turn to point out the more-of-sameness.

And when I talk about timing, I'm not talking about time of year. I'm talking about time-since-BC and time-before-WAR/ WotLK/ Bioware. For the AAA retailed-purchased MMO audience, it seems to have hit at the right time with the right level of quality and hyped-future-maybes in ways neither TR nor PotBS ever came close to doing.

[TripleDES]

Late, but... Neocron's still alive?!?

[palmer_eldritch]

If the AoC launch had been the clusterfuck we all expected, then none of its "innovations" would have mattered. But now they do.

I keep hearing about "innovations" in AoC, but can't remember being blown away by anything new in the open beta.  What are these "innovative" features that you're referring to?

Nipples.

Decapitations though oddly enough I'm currently playing a class that can't do them (blunt weapon user).

Blunt weapons have some good fatalities though, like the one where you smash them to the ground and then bring your club down on their head in a bloody mess.

The fatalities seem to change as you level. I have started doing a new one with my two-handed blade wielding character in which he sticks the blade in their gut, leaves it there, grabs their head by both hands and snaps their neck, retrieving the blade they fall to the floor. Someone in Funcom is a sick, sick person.

[stray]

And don't pull that fucking timing shit on me Darniaq

Wasn't talking about you. However, I do feel like you, circa November 2004 when you were bitching about all of fandom for a game that was largely a reskin-done-better of EQ1. Guess it's my turn to point out the more-of-sameness.

And when I talk about timing, I'm not talking about time of year. I'm talking about time-since-BC and time-before-WAR/ WotLK/ Bioware. For the AAA retailed-purchased MMO audience, it seems to have hit at the right time with the right level of quality and hyped-future-maybes in ways neither TR nor PotBS ever came close to doing.

Uh, not sure why you make those comparisons. TR just isn't that good. PotBS I can't speak much for, other than it's got the presence of an indie title. They're not where they're at because of timing.

Conan and Hyboria is a popular enough concept.. Even when people don't know much about him, they still know of him. Hell, he's probably the most well known reference to "fantasy" in the world. Like Superman is for comics (fantasy geeks might think it's Lord of the Rings, but that is in fact why they are fantasy geeks). So the game will get some press just from that.

[Nebu]

Basically, it's what SWG should've been and then some.

Damn you Schild.  This right there may be enough for me to start playing... after I move that is.

Thank you for giving me the bottom line.