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on: January 31, 2008, 05:30:30 PM

Okay, I need your help guys.  When I was little (late 80s) I had four TMNT graphic novels.  All I remember is that the first one paralleled the plot of the movie and the fourth one took them into the future.  I've been attempting to find them again for years, but everything I find on the internet is just not quite right.  They were all in color, for starters.  Anyway, if someone here thinks they know exactly which comics I'm thinking of, input would be awesome.  Where to buy them would be awesomer.

On a related matter, who else read the early stuff?
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Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 05:39:15 PM

Okay, I need your help guys.  When I was little (late 80s) I had four TMNT graphic novels.  All I remember is that the first one paralleled the plot of the movie and the fourth one took them into the future.  I've been attempting to find them again for years, but everything I find on the internet is just not quite right.  They were all in color, for starters.  Anyway, if someone here thinks they know exactly which comics I'm thinking of, input would be awesome.  Where to buy them would be awesomer.

On a related matter, who else read the early stuff?

I want to say that you're looking for the collections that were published by First, since IIRC they were colorized reprints of the first several story arcs.  I've got four of them (don't know if they published any more than that) in storage somewhere.
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Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 07:07:46 PM

I have the first two of a series of four comic books, all in color.  I don't know if they're the ones you're talking about, though.  The first one doesn't parallel the plot to the movie, except that it's got the origin story in it, as far as I can recall.  There is time travel in it, though (and dimensional travel; I do recall that the turtles went to an alternate dimension where they were forced to become pro wrestlers... sigh...).  Bunch of cameos from characters I've never seen in the cartoon (Ray Fillet, Wingnut and Screwloose, that Roach Exterminator guy, Ace Duck, and so on).

Ah, found it, it was called "The Collected Series" for some reason (though it wasn't, as far as I know, a collection of the original comics).  Cover art,  allegedly published by Tundra according to that site.
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Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 09:34:32 PM

I think the one Velorath sounds right.  I just wish I could remember it more clearly.  It's been something like 15 years since I had them.
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Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 10:00:12 PM

Okay, I need your help guys.  When I was little (late 80s) I had four TMNT graphic novels.  All I remember is that the first one paralleled the plot of the movie and the fourth one took them into the future.  I've been attempting to find them again for years, but everything I find on the internet is just not quite right.  They were all in color, for starters.  Anyway, if someone here thinks they know exactly which comics I'm thinking of, input would be awesome.  Where to buy them would be awesomer.

On a related matter, who else read the early stuff?

Could only find the first 3 right off, I'm sure the 4th is in there, but that's a lot of digging - the description for the first one is a bit dodgy tho and the price is suspiciously low.

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Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 10:33:02 PM

I remember buying some TMNT issues from Archie Comics around the time the first movies came out.

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Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 10:35:35 PM

The only TMNT I have read is #9, since that was somehow the cheapest and I was poor.  I mean Number Nine as in the ninth one ever.  It was not in color.  Honestly I preferred Flaming Carrot, but I was poor.

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Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 10:43:56 PM

Those were from... Mirage Studios? I still have a few of those somewhere. I remember them being kinda gritty.

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Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 10:50:56 PM

I had those, and I know I still have at least one of them.  I remember that it was Leo that got the snot beat out of him, unlike the movie where it was Raph.  Not sure when you can actually find them nowadays though.
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Reply #9 on: January 31, 2008, 11:53:37 PM

Oh yeah, they were gritty as hell.  I remember it being one of my first experiences with death in any sort of literature.  The cartoon was kiddy stuff.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that Eastman and Laird had a total falling out for a time because one of them didn't want to dumb down the characters for TV.
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Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 12:31:00 AM

That probly would have been Eastman. I'm pretty sure he went on to be EIC of Heavy Metal, the sci-fi comic porn magazine for stoners.  smiley


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Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 01:00:38 AM

Ah, yea, #9 had death by swords and whatnot.  Ninja shit, not Teenage Mutant Pussy Turtles shit.  I only read that one issue, but it somehow managed to marginalize the color shit.

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Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 01:46:34 PM

"Raphael is still laboring under the delusion that he is not a toaster."

Those first few books, and the pen and paper RPG, were so damn good.  I remember when the cartoon first aired, and how confused my group of friends were by it.  Pizza power?   ACK!
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Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 02:58:57 PM

It's kind of like how someone decided to make a Ghostbusters cartoon without any of the characters from the movie, give the car a personality, and make one of the guys a gorilla.
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Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 03:27:44 PM

Except the Turtles cartoon actually had decent writing (as opposed to the Ghostbusters knockoff).  It wasn't anywhere near what the comic was, but for a cartoon, it was good in its own right.
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Reply #15 on: February 01, 2008, 09:54:30 PM

I liked it when the turtles fought dinosaurs.
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Reply #16 on: February 02, 2008, 04:42:12 PM

It's kind of like how someone decided to make a Ghostbusters cartoon without any of the characters from the movie, give the car a personality, and make one of the guys a gorilla.

Sadly, those were the original Ghostbusters.  It was a cartoon based off an older live action TV show.
The Ghostbusters everyone loves and remembers paid some fee to use the name.

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Reply #17 on: February 02, 2008, 07:02:26 PM

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Reply #18 on: February 07, 2008, 06:05:21 AM

Except the Turtles cartoon actually had decent writing (as opposed to the Ghostbusters knockoff).  It wasn't anywhere near what the comic was, but for a cartoon, it was good in its own right.

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Reply #19 on: February 07, 2008, 12:47:56 PM

Except the Turtles cartoon actually had decent writing (as opposed to the Ghostbusters knockoff).  It wasn't anywhere near what the comic was, but for a cartoon, it was good in its own right.

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Reply #20 on: February 07, 2008, 12:55:07 PM

I liked the Turtles cartoon a lot.  I was about 8 at the time, mind you, but it was my favorite show for a while.

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Reply #21 on: February 07, 2008, 04:17:33 PM

I watched it as an early teenager.  While it wasn't fit to shine the original Eastman and Laird comics' shoes, it was pretty amusing.  It KNEW it was silly and ran with it.
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Reply #22 on: February 07, 2008, 09:26:31 PM

I watched TMNT when I was a kid, and it was my favorite show ever.  I think most of you are just to old or something (well, at least Ironwood :P).  I wouldn't sit and watch it now, but as a kid, it was an awesome show, regardless of how kick ass the comics where.  Give it some credit for its time period and target audience.  All the kid cartoons out in the last 5-10 years have pretty much sucked ass completely (but of course, I got old as well, so maybe I'm not one to judge.  But they still seem to suck compared to the TMNT era).

Also, the Real Ghostbusters was an awesome cartoon.  THAT was actually pretty god damn scary for a saturday morning cartoon.  There was some freaky fucked up shit to be seeing there when I was a kid....

The Ghost Busters with the Gorilla had nothing to do with the movie, and wasn't meant to.  It was based off the TV series The Ghost Busters from 1975: http://www.70slivekidvid.com/ghost.htm

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Reply #23 on: February 07, 2008, 09:44:26 PM

I never saw the Ghostbusters with a gorilla, but it explains why the movie-branded version was called "The REAL Ghostbusters".  I always did wonder what they were trying to differentiate themselves from.

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Reply #24 on: February 08, 2008, 02:22:49 AM

Also, the Real Ghostbusters was an awesome cartoon.  THAT was actually pretty god damn scary for a saturday morning cartoon.  There was some freaky fucked up shit to be seeing there when I was a kid....

J. Michael Straczynski wrote a lot of the episodes for the Real Ghostbusters.
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Reply #25 on: February 08, 2008, 02:23:56 AM

I remember liking both series when I was really little.  I was the target age group for the gorilla, I think.
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Reply #26 on: February 08, 2008, 03:55:31 AM

Except the Turtles cartoon actually had decent writing (as opposed to the Ghostbusters knockoff).  It wasn't anywhere near what the comic was, but for a cartoon, it was good in its own right.

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Christ, it's not about taste, it's about the writing.  You know, what you said !

You can't compare pizza eating fucking surf retards in green shell suits with some of the actually adult and fun storylines that The Real Ghostbusters came away with.

If you don't wanna argue, that's fine, but fuck me 'Cowabunga Dude' ?  Come on to fuck.  At least the Movie, when it included that shite, had some of the more adult themes running through it so it became good (Raph getting the fuck kicked out of him springs to mind, as does Casey still being a fucking pyscho).  What you got ?  Beebop and Fucking Rocksteady ?

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Reply #27 on: February 08, 2008, 04:25:30 AM

Except the Turtles cartoon actually had decent writing (as opposed to the Ghostbusters knockoff).  It wasn't anywhere near what the comic was, but for a cartoon, it was good in its own right.

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Christ, it's not about taste, it's about the writing.  You know, what you said !

You can't compare pizza eating fucking surf retards in green shell suits with some of the actually adult and fun storylines that The Real Ghostbusters came away with.

Well I was comparing it to the other Ghostbusters, and not the Real Ghostbusters (or The Mysterious Cities of Gold, or Duck Tales which would be my own personal favorites from childhood), but regardless, remember for a second that we're talking about cartoons here.  I'm not saying the TMNT cartoon was a work of art, but it had a large number of good episodes.  I recently gave my old VHS tapes to my brother's kid, and not only has he's really gotten into them, but they're also not painful for me to watch like a lot of the cartoons I used to watch as a kid (Thundercats fucking won the prize as far as cartoons that should have remained as fond memories instead of being rebroadcast in recent years).
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Reply #28 on: February 08, 2008, 04:29:47 AM

Now we're on the same page.  Cities of Gold was awesome, though headhurting at times and Thundercats was pure joy.

Also, this Ghostbusters with the two blokes is an unknown quantity over here.  Literally.

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Reply #29 on: February 08, 2008, 05:35:51 AM

Mysterious Cities of Gold. Wow, that's one I haven't thought about in about 20 years.  That was the one with the search for the lost Myan cities and the flying gold robot, right? How the hell did I forget that one?

Duck Tales was awesome, I'll agree there as well.  Always made Rescue Rangers look like crap, even though that was fairly decent as well.  Can't say I ever saw the Real Ghostbusters.. I wonder what else was on at the same time that I didn't watch it.

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Reply #30 on: February 08, 2008, 09:59:04 AM

Also, the Real Ghostbusters was an awesome cartoon.  THAT was actually pretty god damn scary for a saturday morning cartoon.  There was some freaky fucked up shit to be seeing there when I was a kid....

J. Michael Straczynski wrote a lot of the episodes for the Real Ghostbusters.
He also then went on to write a bunch of episodes for CAPTAIN POWER AND THE SOLDIERS OF THE FUTURE!


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Reply #31 on: February 08, 2008, 10:15:06 AM

Mysterious Cities of Gold. Wow, that's one I haven't thought about in about 20 years.  That was the one with the search for the lost Myan cities and the flying gold robot, right? How the hell did I forget that one?
Flying gold condor-aeroplane, and solar powered ship.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS It was one of the "stealth anime" series, along with Ulysses 31, Thunderbirds 2084 and Battle of the Planets. Star Fleet/X-Bomber sort of fits in there as well except for it being puppets instead of cel animation.

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Reply #32 on: February 08, 2008, 01:25:26 PM

The Mysterious Cities of Gold

What you just did there... this is the cartoon that taught me about death when I was very, very young.  It's lived in the back of my mind for years and I never thought I'd hear about it again.  I'd managed to forget almost everything about it until just this minute.  I thank you, sir.

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Reply #33 on: February 11, 2008, 07:55:50 PM

Duck Tales was awesome, I'll agree there as well.  Always made Rescue Rangers look like crap, even though that was fairly decent as well. 

For me the best of the Disney afternoon cartoons was TaleSpin:  1930's setting with Indiana Jones-style action combined with airplanes, a nice mix of recurring villains (from evil plutocrat Shere Khan to wacky air pirate Don Carnage), and more than a few references to assorted events from the period.  Darkwing Duck was a close second, though the joke wore a bit thin after a while by comparison.

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Reply #34 on: February 28, 2008, 12:55:57 AM

Just picked up the reissue of the first volume.  It's not the ones I remember owning as a kid, but it's good stuff just the same.  I like!
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