The WII shortage fiasco

[Riggswolfe]

You know, I hear all these "brick" fears with the 360 but I bought mine about 3 months after release and have never had a single problem with it. Even with multiple power outages in my neighborhood and shit. Maybe I'm just amazingly lucky...

[stray]

Maybe.

[HaemishM]

Final point: this generation of console wars are a long way from over. The PS3 may recover. The Wii may not be the success it currently appears to be if demand slackens when owners find they don't have a good range of games to play. The Xbox 360 may recover from its awful 30% failure rate reputation and stop taking that financial hit.

I think the thing to remember is that by the time the PS3 is a reasonable price (sub $300 range), there will likely be a new Wii/Nintendo console either released or on the very near horizon. There may even be a new Microsoft console (THE 720 YO!). The *LOLZ* 10-year PS3 lifecycle will ensure that it will be competing with a Hi-Def Wii and a new Microsoft console, forcing Sony to either blanket the market with a shitton of new games or make a new shinier console.

This Christmas is going to be hugely important for the PS3. If it doesn't start moving boxes soon, it's going to be hurting for games by 2010.

[stray]

Yay, sales thread. OF THE FUTURE.

[HaemishM]

Yay, sales thread. OF THE FUTURE.

Really, if you don't like discussing the sales of the Wii, PS3 or 360, STOP READING AND POSTING IN THREADS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE SALES OF THESE CONSOLES.

[schild]

Yay, sales thread. OF THE FUTURE.

Really, if you don't like discussing the sales of the Wii, PS3 or 360, STOP READING AND POSTING IN THREADS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE SALES OF THESE CONSOLES.

I just updated the other one, for Stray (and myself and Velorath).

[stray]

Yay, sales thread. OF THE FUTURE.

Really, if you don't like discussing the sales of the Wii, PS3 or 360, STOP READING AND POSTING IN THREADS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE SALES OF THESE CONSOLES.

This shit was about supplies... Possibly the merits of systems. But fuck a damn 2010 sales thread.

[schild]

I can't wait for the Wii to come out with an HD version. Then everyone who bought a wii will pay another $250-$400 to upgrade to HD.

It's like Next-Gen Layaway. Layawii. Lollapawiiza.

[Phildo]

One day Schild, your great-great-grandchildren will visit a museum of early 21st-century technology and the Wii will be on a pedestal as the greatest gaming system of our generation.

People in the future are stupid.

[naum]

[Jain Zar]

I can't wait for the Wii to come out with an HD version. Then everyone who bought a wii will pay another $250-$400 to upgrade to HD.

It's like Next-Gen Layaway. Layawii. Lollapawiiza.

Dude.  Wii won.  PS3 lost.

Fucking get over it.

[schild]

Get over what? I'm still going to get Uncharted 2, Final Fantasy XIII, MGS4, God of War 3, Echochrome, Resident Evil 5 etc. etc. etc.

The Wii is going to get?

hmmm

Smash Bros....

and then uhhhh

traded into Gamestop for $75.

[Jain Zar]

Keep telling yourself that.

Enjoy your Sony Dreamcast, except without any of the spirit or charm the Dreamcast had while failing miserably.

And am sure to enjoy RE 5 on the 360 if its like RE4.  The rest of the listed games don't matter to me anyhow. 

[stray]

Fucking spirit and charm. How about we just talk about games from now on? Hmm?

[Phildo]

So... the Dreamcast was haunted?

[schild]

Haunted by Blue Stinger.

[Soukyan]

How does it feel to be so bitter?

[schild]

Once again, not bitter, just flabbergasted by the ridiculousness.

How can I be bitter? I got and finished Uncharted. You can't be bitter after an experience like that.

[Soukyan]

How does it feel to be so bitter?

[schild]

Once again, not bitter, just flabbergasted by the ridiculousness.

How can I be bitter? I got and finished Uncharted. You can't be bitter after an experience like that.

[Azazel]

Mate, just give the Wii Hate a rest. Let it fail on it's own if that's the eventual fate, then gloat all you like. But let it fail, first.

Right now (and for the last pile of months) you're/you've been coming across like a fucking 14 year old from the Amiga vs Atari ST days, or the SNES vs MegaDriveGenesis days. Grow out of it, FFS.

[schild]

Grats on post 2000.

[dusematic]

lol

[stray]

I think Schild has the least hate out of most people in these disputes. At least the dude actually plays most of the games on these platforms, and makes specific complaints. That's better than vague criticisms like "spirit and charm", "grandma doesn't like it", or just making stupid predictions like the PS3 being so bad that it will fail against 2 future consoles that aren't even fucking made yet.

[Bokonon]

I think Schild has the least hate out of most people in these disputes. At least the dude actually plays most of the games on these platforms, and makes specific complaints. That's better than vague criticisms like "spirit and charm", "grandma doesn't like it", or just making stupid predictions like the PS3 being so bad that it will fail against 2 future consoles that aren't even fucking made yet.

Uh, he's said for himself he hasn't turned the damn thing on in a year. How would he know how MP3 or Strikers Charged, or Zak & Wiki are like. Maybe the games are ass, maybe they just aren't his genres or play-styles. Or maybe he's just a nut. I mean, I know the 360 and PS3 have good/great games for them. So does the DS and the PSP. Oh yeah, and the Wii has good games too.

Regardless, concerning the Wii, until he says he's turned it back on, he's talking out his ass.

[stray]

If that's the case, my bad then.  I've just started picking up again on these console discussions recently. He had some legitimate (imo) criticisms further in the past.


What you said about good games being everywhere though is more of what I'd like to see. I don't know why any self respecting gamer would hate any of these new platforms really. There's at least some value in all of them for everyone, and if you've got nothing but bullshit fanboi reasons to trash one of them, you're fucking yourself in the end. If you even like games, that is.

[schild]

I play new Wii Games at Gamestop.

My Wii will get turned on when a game comes out where it deserves to get turned on. Probably No More Heroes.

Especially now that I found out the sword is not waggle controlled but rather, you hold the Wiimote up for one stance and down for another - you press A to attack! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, NO POINTLESS WAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGLE. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Would still prefer it on a regular controller, but at least they didn't shoehorn it in and ruin sword combat.

[Signe]

I don't think there really is a shortage at all.  I think bajillions of people just bought out the stores so they could sell them on ebay.  People aren't even bidding on the ones that are too over-priced.  Anyone who wants one, can have one, I think.

[Fabricated]

Final point: this generation of console wars are a long way from over. The PS3 may recover. The Wii may not be the success it currently appears to be if demand slackens when owners find they don't have a good range of games to play. The Xbox 360 may recover from its awful 30% failure rate reputation and stop taking that financial hit.

I think the thing to remember is that by the time the PS3 is a reasonable price (sub $300 range), there will likely be a new Wii/Nintendo console either released or on the very near horizon. There may even be a new Microsoft console (THE 720 YO!). The *LOLZ* 10-year PS3 lifecycle will ensure that it will be competing with a Hi-Def Wii and a new Microsoft console, forcing Sony to either blanket the market with a shitton of new games or make a new shinier console.

This Christmas is going to be hugely important for the PS3. If it doesn't start moving boxes soon, it's going to be hurting for games by 2010.

uh, not to say you're wrong again, but you're wrong.

I recall Nintendo stating themselves that they planned on using the Wii platform for 7+ years.

[Azazel]

That doesn't mean that they can't rejig it for 1080p and HDMI later on when it suits them.

 

[stray]

But otherwise keeping the same hardware? I'm not sure what you mean. If they're going to "rejig" to 1080p, that means new gpu, more memory, getting developers on board to scale resources accordingly, etc.. Basically, it would be a new platform.

[Soukyan]

Final point: this generation of console wars are a long way from over. The PS3 may recover. The Wii may not be the success it currently appears to be if demand slackens when owners find they don't have a good range of games to play. The Xbox 360 may recover from its awful 30% failure rate reputation and stop taking that financial hit.

I think the thing to remember is that by the time the PS3 is a reasonable price (sub $300 range), there will likely be a new Wii/Nintendo console either released or on the very near horizon. There may even be a new Microsoft console (THE 720 YO!). The *LOLZ* 10-year PS3 lifecycle will ensure that it will be competing with a Hi-Def Wii and a new Microsoft console, forcing Sony to either blanket the market with a shitton of new games or make a new shinier console.

This Christmas is going to be hugely important for the PS3. If it doesn't start moving boxes soon, it's going to be hurting for games by 2010.

uh, not to say you're wrong again, but you're wrong.

I recall Nintendo stating themselves that they planned on using the Wii platform for 7+ years.

Platform being the operative word there. Playstation is Sony's "platform", and we aren't stuck with the PS1. They made the PS2 and now the PS3. So while the overall "platform" may stay the same, I think the word is being used loosely.

[stray]

That's not a very useful term in the world of consoles, I think. Probably best to use "brand" or something. The hardware is just too varied at a fundamental level from one "generation" to the next to consider an entire product line to be a "platform".

Err.. Except, ironically, in the Wii's case. Not to make a disparaging comment, but it really is just a suped up Gamecube at the moment. It'd be pretty disappointing if it resembled anything of the sort the next time around though.

[Soukyan]

That's not a very useful term in the world of consoles, I think. Probably best to use "brand" or something. The hardware is just too varied at a fundamental level from one "generation" to the next to consider an entire product line to be a "platform".

Err.. Except, ironically, in the Wii's case. Not to make a disparaging comment, but it really is just a suped up Gamecube at the moment. It'd be pretty disappointing if it resembled anything of the sort the next time around though.

I agree with you that platform is the wrong word. I was pointing out that that is how Nintendo is using it. Incorrect or misleading though it may be. I expect we will see many hardware iterations of the Gamecu... Wii.

[Rasix]

I was pointing out that that is how Nintendo is using it.

How do you know this?

Speculation on both sides here are likely wrong to a degree.