Sales Numbers

[Big Gulp]

What kind of TV do you have anyways Gulp? Just wondering. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I see a big difference between upscaled DVD and HD feeds and Blu-Ray discs. On DLP and Projection, not so much.

Rear Projection CRT, so maybe that could have something to do with it, but then again, I don't see getting a new TV any time soon so the point is pretty much moot for me.

Besides, there really isn't any affordable/good quality (like Taiyo-Yuden quality) blank media for either HDDVD or BluRay.  This would curtail my Blockbuster Online extracurricular activities quite a bit.  Thanks, AnyDVD!

[Velorath]

November U.S. Software sales for some of the games that didn't make it into the top 10:

360 ROCK BAND (T) 312K
360 ASSASSIN'S CREED: COLLECTOR'S EDITION (M) 140K

WII MARIO AND SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES (E) 328K
WII WII ZAPPER W/ LINK'S CROSSBOW TRAINING (E) 232K
WII HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL (E) 185K
WII LEGO STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE TRILOGY (E) 180K
WII RESIDENT EVIL: UMBRELLA CHRONICLES (M) 121K
WII RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS 2 (E) 60K
WII WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2008 (T) 53K
WII FIRE EMBLEM: RADIANT DAWN (T) 53K
WII MEDAL OF HONOR HEROES 2 (T) 31K
WII MANHUNT 2 (M) 19K
WII TRAUMA CENTER: NEW BLOOD (T) 15K

NDS LEGEND OF ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS (E) 227K
NDS FINAL FANTASY XII: REVENANT WINGS (E) 49K

PS3 UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE (T) 117K
PS3 ROCK BAND (T) 70K
PS3 RATCHET & CLANK FUTURE (T) 66K

PC CRYSIS (M) 87K
PC UNREAL TOURNAMENT 3 (M) 34K

[Simond]

PS3 UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE (T) 117K

welp

[naum]

Wii Reaches the Greatest Generation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzp8S_7yspM

[HaemishM]

Anyways, I think it's too bad that some of you guys are concerned about marketing and revenue. Again I say, fuck sales thread.

Then why do you keep posting in it?

As for sales threads, they always turn into PS3 vs. Wii threads, which is pretty useless wankery on all sides. The PS3 will be top console when the Wii HD comes out in about 3-4 years.

[Soukyan]

Anyways, I think it's too bad that some of you guys are concerned about marketing and revenue. Again I say, fuck sales thread.

Then why do you keep posting in it?

As for sales threads, they always turn into PS3 vs. Wii threads, which is pretty useless wankery on all sides. The PS3 will be top console when the Wii HD comes out in about 3-4 years.

In 3 to 4 years, the next gen consoles will be out so it means fuck all. The Wii won this round. The PS3 is a powerful piece of hardware with lots of potential. For the hardcore console gamers who end up buying all of them anyhow, it's a win-win. For the rest of us, still a win-win.

[HaemishM]

Exactly. The Wii succeeding is full of win for the gaming industry, once the arrogance gets dropped.

[schild]

The Wii succeeding is full of win for the gaming industry

Tell that to fans of Fatal Frame.

[Soukyan]

Exactly. The Wii succeeding is full of win for the gaming industry, once the arrogance gets dropped.

So you really expect business executives of a technology company to drop their arrogance?

You know better than that. No matter what the public face, they are all arrogant fucks and will continue to be as long as the American walking wallets shamble along and shell out the adoring cash for the next best thing. It's like Apple bleeding early adopters of the iPhone for a spare $200 and then dropping the price. I think about 5 people actually bitched while the rest were in denial and started justifying their purchase price as a fee for getting it first. I thought it was supposed to work the other way around for supply and demand. There's a reason I haven't bought either the Wii or the PS3. The PS3 is too expensive for me to buy because I have no real need for it. Nintendo is playing the withholding game with the Wii supply, so fuck them. XBox 360? It looks more and more compelling every day.

[HaemishM]

Exactly. The Wii succeeding is full of win for the gaming industry, once the arrogance gets dropped.

So you really expect business executives of a technology company to drop their arrogance?

Actually, I wasn't talking about the suits so much as the asshead developers and designers who refuse to make games for the "2 GameCubes duct-taped together" system.

[schild]

XBox 360? It looks more and more compelling every day.

Totally a different kind of gamble.

All 3 consoles have huge problems.

In fact, for many people, the argument could be made that the extra $100 for the PS3 buys you stability Microsoft will never be able to match.

[Mazakiel]

Having both a PS3 and a 360, I slightly prefer the PS3, but they're both worth owning in my book.  I've not had the hardware problems many 360 owners have had, except occasional lockups while gaming for long stretches.  I tend to save often, though, so it's more annoyance than anything else.  At this point, after the price drop and everything, I view game lineup as being the main deciding factor.  And while the 360 has a larger library, it's also been out longer.  The PS3 has several awesome titles as well, now.

As to the Wii, I'm still rather unimpressed by what I've seen of their game library.  Everything I've seen just seems...underwhelming.  I'm apparently going to get one for Christmas though, so I guess I'll be finding out first hand.  I expect it'll end up like the GC and N64 before it, one or two games I'll enjoy, and otherwise it'll gather dust.  I've had a PS3 for maybe 3 weeks now, and I've probably gotten more enjoyment out of it already than I did with the GC in the whole time I had one.  And sadly, I'll probably never see a sequel of any sort to Eternal Darkness or Skies of Arcadia.  And that was really just an improved port of the Dreamcast version that couldn't even deliver on several of the improvements. 

[schild]

12/10-12/16 (2007) - Japan

Software:

01./02. [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo) - 180,042 / 826,000
02./01. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 124,238 / 535,000
03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Sony) - 115,748 / NEW
04./05. [NDS] Prof. Layton and Pandora's Box (Level 5) - 74,378 / 444,000
05./09. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 74,113 / 550,000
06./06. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV (Square-Enix) - 73,061 / 868,000
07./10. [WII] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 64,228 / 212,000
08./14. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 55,102 / 2,341,000
09./15. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 54,696 / 1,921,000
10./00. [WII] Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon: the Labyrinth of Forgotten Time (Square-Enix) - 40,580 / NEW

Hardware:

Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -   222,144 |   168,267 | 6,668,915 | 20,674,594
2. PSP   -   184,610 |    91,481 | 2,736,291 |  7,268,420
3. WII   -   170,558 |   115,057 | 3,311,401 |  4,231,044
4. PS3   -    63,720 |    38,123 | 1,073,245 |  1,530,803
5. PS2   -    18,025 |    11,987 |   726,218 | 20,881,077
6. 360   -     8,561 |     8,876 |   226,427 |    491,129
7. GBA   -       140 |       114 |    50,534 | 15,348,613
8. NGC   -        32 |        46 |    10,495 |  4,179,963

[schild]

Some thoughts:

Wii Fit, still not doing near as well as I expected - imo, good thing. Stupid non-games. Also, Nation of skinny people.
Mario Party, as ALWAYS, a monster.
Holy, holy shit at Gran Turismo 5. For a Downloadable - selling to 10% of owners in the first week is just awesome.
Layton has legs. Galaxy falling faster than expected.
Dragon Quest XI, if prior IV is any indication, will be an unstoppable force of nature.
Wii Sports and Wii Play are back in the top 10, means stores were restocked with Wiis.

Good god at the PSP. Really though, I like the slim now more than my DS Lite. So I sort of understand why this is happening. Also, PSP games are reaching PS2 caliber in quality - imo.
NDS is still... the NDS.
Wii has now sold more LTD than the Gamecube during it's entire run.
360 never should've been launched in Japan, period.

[HaemishM]

360 never should've been launched in Japan, period.

Yes, but I really don't think Microsoft gives a shit, despite their attempts to make stuff like Blue Dragon for a Japanese audience. As you've said before, the Japanese market is really irrelevant for anyone outside of Japan. The 360 is there because Japan exists, not because it's part of any strategy whatsoever.

[schild]

Well, it's part of one strategy. To get Japanese devs to work on it. I'm pretty sure that's all there is to it.

[Velorath]

I believe the 360 has already sold more in Japan than the Xbox ever did (damning with faint praise I know).  A lot of the major games on 360 also hit the top 10 in their launch week (then promptly disappear off the chart altogether, never to be heard from again).  At this rate, Xbox might become a viable brand in Japan in about 11 or 12 more console generations.

Sales on GT5 prologue are especially strong when you consider that the numbers here are just for purchases of pysical copies.

[Velorath]

December NPD sales numbers are up:

HW Sales
System December 2007 Annual 2007
PlayStation 2 1.1 million 3.97 million
PlayStation 3 797.6 K 2.56 million
PlayStation Portable 1.06 million 3.82 million
Xbox 360 1.26 million 4.62 million
Wii 1.35 million 6.29 million
Nintendo DS 2.47 million 8.50 million


Top 10 SW Sales
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *1 1.47 million
WII SUPER MARIO GALAXY NINTENDO OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 2 1.40 million
PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) *3 1.25 million
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 4 1.08 million
360 ASSASSIN'S CREED UBISOFT NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *5 893.7 K
360 HALO 3 MICROSOFT (CORP) SEP 2007 MATURE (M) *6 742.7 K
NDS BRAIN AGE 2: MORE TRAINING IN MINUTES A NINTENDO OF AMERICA AUG 2007 EVERYONE (E) 7 659.5 K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS AUG 2007 EVERYONE (E) 8 655.2 K
360 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 9 624.6 K
WII MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES SEGA OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 10 613.0 K


Top 10 SW Annaul
360 HALO 3 MICROSOFT (CORP) SEP 2007 MATURE (M) *1 4.82 million
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 2 4.12 million
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *3 3.04 million
PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) *4 2.72 million
WII SUPER MARIO GALAXY NINTENDO OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 5 2.52 million
NDS POKEMON DIAMOND VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA APR 2007 EVERYONE (E) 6 2.48 million
PS2 MADDEN NFL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS AUG 2007 EVERYONE (E) 7 1.90 million
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2006 TEEN (T) *8 1.89 million
360 ASSASSIN'S CREED UBISOFT NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *9 1.87 million
WII MARIO PARTY 8 NINTENDO OF AMERICA MAY 2007 EVERYONE (E) 10 1.82 million

*Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, Bundles (Guitars) Editions

[schild]

Pretty much what I expected. Good numbers all around.

[Strazos]

Nice to see the 360 numbers so close to the Wii numbers.

[naum]

'07 Numbers

[schild]

Japan hardware (since they don't buy shit for software:

Code:

Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -    97,369 |   266,568 |   363,937 | 21,536,988
2. PSP   -    96,159 |   218,234 |   314,393 |  7,915,987
3. WII   -    84,530 |   207,797 |   292,327 |  4,908,487
4. PS3   -    38,907 |    64,183 |   103,090 |  1,744,766
5. PS2   -    14,499 |    32,010 |    46,509 | 20,973,546
6. 360   -     4,690 |     9,763 |    14,453 |    521,794

The PSP continues to impress.

That Wii/PS3 difference smells like nothing but a cost-issue.

[Venkman]

Where's the PC numbers?! Console bias!!

Heh, going by this (and that only found because of Raph's thing), if PotBS is the number one PC game, that'd be, what, the 75th best selling video game in general?

[Fabricated]

Not bad numbers all around really, all things considered. It'd be nice if fucking Smash Brothers would come out. My Wii has actually been used over the last 2 weeks but Galaxy is continuing to inspire a distinct feeling of "meh".

[Simond]

And the DS finally overtakes the PS2.

[Velorath]

And the DS finally overtakes the PS2.

Nintendo's success with the DS and Wii makes one wonder if their Board of Directors sold their own souls to the devil, or went with the more traditionial route of virgin sacrifices.

[Triforcer]

Not bad numbers all around really, all things considered. It'd be nice if fucking Smash Brothers would come out. My Wii has actually been used over the last 2 weeks but Galaxy is continuing to inspire a distinct feeling of "meh".

Pushed back to March!  NERD FURY SMASH HATE WORLD WANT NOW

[HaemishM]

That Wii/PS3 difference smells like nothing but a cost-issue.

Cheaper hardware sells better. It's really not that hard a concept to grasp.

[sidereal]

I'm not sure what to make of the PS2 outselling the PS3 this xmas.  I think that's pretty bad for the PS3.  Yeah, you can say it just means that the PS2 is a great piece of hardware (it is), but if the Xbox1 outsold the Xbox360 that would rightly be considered an enormous WTF.

[Trippy]

MS stopped making the Xbox a long time ago, unlike Sony with the PS2 which they still make.

[Azazel]

PS2 is still being pushed pretty hard here. Especially with things like Buzz, Singstar, Pink PS2s etc.

[Velorath]

Where's the PC numbers?! Console bias!!

You asked for it.  Top 10 PC games for 2007 (not including downloads, since they obviously can't be tracked by NPD):

1. World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade* – Vivendi (Blizzard) – 2.25 million
2. World of Warcraft* – Vivendi (Blizzard) – 914K
3. The Sims 2* – Electronic Arts – 534K
4. The Sims 2 Seasons Expansion Pack – Electronic Arts – 433K
5. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare* – Activision – 383K
6. Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars* – Electronic Arts – 350K
7. MS Age of Empires III* – Microsoft – 313K
8. Sim City 4* - Electronic Arts – 294K
9. MS Flight Simulator X* - Microsoft - 280K
10. The Sims 2 Bon Voyage Expansion Pack – Electronic Arts – 272K

*Includes Collector's, Deluxe, Gold or Kane Editions

Aren't you glad you asked?

[Margalis]

PC game sales seem far far lower than console sales.

[Tebonas]

Not to mention half of the top 10 are two games.

[JWIV]

PC game sales seem far far lower than console sales.

Sales numbers ignore D2Drive, Steam, and other digital distribution methodology.  But in general, yes, consoles do control a larger share of the gaming market.