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Trippy
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Reply #35 on: November 07, 2007, 08:25:34 PM

Trippy, have you had a look at the NEC 20WMGX2? I saw one on display next to a bunch of others, even some very vaunted Samsung monitors, and it just looked so infinitely better. I hadda have it and didn't regret the sticker price I payed nearly half a year ago.

Its one of them IPS ones, but to be honest, I've never noticed the response lag on it. The colors are just to die for. Oh, and its ostensibly HD 1080p. Its also has a built in TV tuner, and other bells and whistles. I've recently been jonesing for a 26"+ monitor, but every time I come back home from window shopping and look at my NEC, I just can't bite the bullet and buy what always seems so sub par by comparison.

Of course, the sticker price on it seems nasty, considering that for $600 you can score a 24" Dell, but really, its just a swank-ass screen.
Yes I'm familiar with that monitor. Input/response lag is different than pixel switching response time. The GX2 is overdriven (it's 6 ms response time is equivalent to a 2 ms TN panel) but apparently not enough for input lag to be an issue since it is designed to be a gaming monitor. The colors would look better since Samsung doesn't make any monitors with IPS panels (that I'm aware of).

The monitor is not 1080P since that would require it be 1920 x 1200 or 1920 or 1080.
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Reply #36 on: November 07, 2007, 09:18:34 PM

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And it has 1:1! Winner!

Too bad it's $200 more than the new breed of 24" LCD Monitors.
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Reply #37 on: November 07, 2007, 09:32:08 PM

If you are considering the BenQ make sure you check out the HardOCP thread:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1066372

The features and specs on that monitor are unmatched (for a S-PVA panel) but the firmware continues to have issues. Actually they all have issues but lots of people are trying to display their consoles on those monitors in particular because they have so many inputs and are still after more than a year running into issues.
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Reply #38 on: November 12, 2007, 10:04:27 AM

Went to a store and the LG monitors handily won the eyeball test.  I don't think I want a widescreen due to the general lack of support for widescreen in games.  However, based on the newegg search, a 20" 2ms LG is only available in wide.  What I think I need is a suggestion for a good place to buy a LG that is not newegg.

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Reply #39 on: November 12, 2007, 03:31:34 PM

Buy it from a bricks and mortar store that has a liberal retujrn/exchange policy. Dead/stuck pixels, backlight bleed and whiny power supplies are teh suck.
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Reply #40 on: November 12, 2007, 04:30:29 PM

I'm using the LG 24" right now. It includes a dvi-hdmi thingy, and is the nicest monitor I've ever owned. No noticeable input lag, decent response, no tearing issues like I saw on the Gateway 24".

In short, I like it. And widescreen hasn't been an issue for me except with a few games, notably bioshock before the fov hack patch.
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Reply #41 on: November 12, 2007, 05:06:07 PM


OfficeMax keeps having a sale on a 24". It's $400 and when they have the sale it's $300 (it just ended again). I'm kicking myself that I ended up paying $400 after shipping/tax for the Costco 24" (they have a lower millisecond though).

http://www.officemax.com/omax/catalog/sku.jsp?skuId=21361009
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Reply #42 on: November 12, 2007, 11:51:32 PM

I'm using the LG 24" right now. It includes a dvi-hdmi thingy, and is the nicest monitor I've ever owned. No noticeable input lag, decent response, no tearing issues like I saw on the Gateway 24".

In short, I like it. And widescreen hasn't been an issue for me except with a few games, notably bioshock before the fov hack patch.

This. I've got the same monitor, and I'm extraordinarily happy with it. I'll happily recommend it to any and all comers, if you're willing to drop the cash on it (it's at the higher end of 24" widescreen prices).

My current computer is really quite old and can't play most games fullscreened, so I simply play windowed mode a lot. Oddly enough, I've grown to enjoy windowed mode, since I can run IMs, Google stuff, monitor teamspeak and such without alt-tabbing. Some games behave better than others.

Still, I can't wait to upgrade and be able to run in 1920x1200x32 at 60+ FPS, because it will be a Thing of Joy.
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Reply #43 on: November 17, 2007, 07:19:55 AM

First post using the LG L226WTY-BF.  L226WTYcat is L226WTY.  I didn't know these colors existed. awesome, for real

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Reply #44 on: November 17, 2007, 11:26:32 AM

Ah, you got the LG. Bravo. Amazing, ain't it?
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Reply #45 on: November 18, 2007, 06:34:54 AM

Some text on f13 that I thought was all white is actually white and off-white.  It's like I can suddenly see in color.  Also, I have lots of room on my desk now.

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Reply #46 on: November 18, 2007, 06:42:58 AM

Head scratch

What monitor were you using before? CRTs have a much wider gamut than your standard LCD so it would be odd to switch from a CRT to LCD and see more colors.
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Reply #47 on: November 18, 2007, 07:09:20 AM

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I don't think I want a widescreen due to the general lack of support for widescreen in games. 
What current games don't support widescreen? Or are you referring to casual download and/or legacy titles?
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Reply #48 on: November 18, 2007, 01:09:02 PM

Head scratch

What monitor were you using before? CRTs have a much wider gamut than your standard LCD so it would be odd to switch from a CRT to LCD and see more colors.


I've also never seen a CRT as bright as the new LGs. Colors really do pop. They're great monitors. And super thin.
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Reply #49 on: November 18, 2007, 10:12:08 PM

No! I know what you need. 2MS LG monitor. Lemme get the model #. I bought it. Fucking HEAVEN.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005098

17", but awesome on a stick. I play all games on it now and use my 22" widescreen as a map screen :)

I have the 19" version and I abso-fucking-lutely love it.  The LG stuff is great and the price is sweet.
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Reply #50 on: November 19, 2007, 09:29:05 AM

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I don't think I want a widescreen due to the general lack of support for widescreen in games. 
What current games don't support widescreen? Or are you referring to casual download and/or legacy titles?

So far I have not found one but I haven't tried a lot of things.  Pretty much just Titan Quest and the Half-Life 2 / Orange Box set.  Hopefully I'm just behind the times.

My previous monitor is a Samsung Syncmaster 170p(?, you'd think I remember the model after all this time) that is probably ten years old and was very solid until about a month ago; it just decided it didn't want to work well anymore.  Also, remember that I went to a store and looked at the various monitors.  I can say confidently that the LG is easily distinguishable from the Dells and Samsungs that I saw, as far as colors and even sharpness.

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Reply #51 on: November 19, 2007, 11:27:39 AM

Even games that purport widescreen support and WSGF gives them a 'native' rating can leave you in the cold at certain ratios or resolutions. I can think of a few off the top of my head that won't support 1280x720. Things are MUCH better now than they were four years ago, but it's still puzzling how many developers either don't support/lazily support/require hackery.

Going by personal experience, I'd say about 20% of my modern games won't run in widescreen format.
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Reply #52 on: November 19, 2007, 12:35:36 PM

I was happy that Mythos, TQ and the Source games I tried supported my screen's native resolution of 1680x1050, which seems pretty oddball to me.  Honestly, I'd never known 16:10 ratios were used anywhere before this week.  Currently... I can't think of another game that I'm concerned about playing just now.  Not until I bother to get a European Witcher, that is.

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Reply #53 on: November 19, 2007, 01:06:28 PM

That's a major pain in the balls...industry standard for pc monitors is 16:10, for consumer electronics it's 16:9 (720p, 1080p, etc). 1680x1050 is now a mainstream res thanks to Dell (the 2007FPW I'm on is 1650x1080).

I know Medieval 2 supports 16:10, but not 720p, not sure about Civ 4.
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Reply #54 on: November 19, 2007, 01:39:59 PM

1680x1050 is now a mainstream res thanks to Dell (the 2007FPW I'm on is 1650x1080).

Awesome.  Everything's coming up Milhouse.

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