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Trippy
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I've seen screenshots of wallhackers posted in the various forums and so there's definitely cheating going on. On the other hand I've shot and killed people through walls/objects only using the radar as a guide so it's kind of hard to distinguish between the two.
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stray
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It's really boring to watch/play with that much killing going on. It's not really that cheating is the big problem either. These style of shooters are just too easy to get good at. Hell, even games focused on firefights or tactical fall into the same pace after awhile. I'm not sure what's to be done, but I've pretty much given up on online shooters because of it. I want something with the cat-and-mouse feel of dogfighting or space combat, except with ground combat.
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Azazel
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I've seen screenshots of wallhackers posted in the various forums and so there's definitely cheating going on. On the other hand I've shot and killed people through walls/objects only using the radar as a guide so it's kind of hard to distinguish between the two.
No Radar in hardcore mode, and I don't walk around guns blazing. I'm not saying it happens every time I get killed, but it's happened often enough to have made me very fucking suspicious. If you've seen screens, then I am going to assume that some of the kills I've been were haxed. Some would have just been dumb luck to suddenly look at the corner/stairs/etc I came around. I do the same. Some are a bit more dodge.
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LK
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PC only, right? The cheating?
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Fabricated
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Got it yesterday, installed it today, nearly to the end of the SP campaign and boy oh boy, did the ending to the USMC campaign piss me off.
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AcidCat
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I haven't seen anything I thought was cheating - on the other hand, I couldn't play MP games on three different occasions because of PunkBuster. The last glitch was related to having the Steam community on during the game.
Anyway, I really like this style of multiplayer - and a large part of that is that weapons feel powerful and can kill quickly, which I like in these kind of games. The tradeoff is that you also die quickly, and there can be a lot of frustrating moments - dying almost right after you spawn, dying to some dude hidden somewhere, dying to some dude with better skill. But I like that it forces you to be careful and play more realistically, you can't just charge out - which I find myself doing still after several hours of play. But when you do get those kills, it is very satisfying. And the nature of the gunplay - loud, deadly, and uncompromising, I find satisfying by default even when I'm on the losing end. Which is why I'd much rather play CoD multi than something like Halo 3. I'm no expert at the game, but I usually find myself in the top third on the scoreboard - even if I usually have a higher deathcount than kills. When I find frustration sneaking up, I just log for a bit or just push through the slump and get a few kills in a row and I feel better. And I have to admit the whole unlocking system adds a whole new reason to keep playing, I dig it in this game where I really didn't care when it was implemented in BF2.
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Viin
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I picked this up on Steam, so let me know if we get a server going.
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rk47
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Got it yesterday, installed it today, nearly to the end of the SP campaign and boy oh boy, did the ending to the USMC campaign piss me off.
Well what annoyed me the most was everything is always 'me, me , me and me'. Man the MG, Detonate that shit, toss back the grenade, snipe it. It's a Hollywood Flick.
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Trippy
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I picked this up on Steam, so let me know if we get a server going.
Linux server isn't out yet. Also the good server settings (like turning off fucking martyrdom) turn off ranking mode (exp gains/challenges) which I expect schild will want to do assuming he's still playing it so you'll want to "level up" somewhere else first.
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Fabricated
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Got it yesterday, installed it today, nearly to the end of the SP campaign and boy oh boy, did the ending to the USMC campaign piss me off.
Well what annoyed me the most was everything is always 'me, me , me and me'. Man the MG, Detonate that shit, toss back the grenade, snipe it. It's a Hollywood Flick. I'm starting to wonder if Infinity Ward has a boner for the British because they sure get all character development and interesting stuff and the better endings. The USMC section is retarded. You and a few unique individuals who get no development (and your CO has a fucking awful voice actor) run around shooting stuff while your hordes of anonymous backups get slaughtered, then the ending...the ending. I'm nearly livid over it. I know what happens at the end of the SAS stuff but at least they get character development.
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jdun
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Probably do but no one told them that the British empire and her military is less then a shadow of what it was.
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Trippy
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Which doesn't negate the fact that the SAS is the model for today's special forces and counter-terrorist units.
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jdun
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Which doesn't negate the fact that the SAS is the model for today's special forces and counter-terrorist units.
The SAS today is not the same as they were at their prime. The entire British military is second rate. If you put a British soldier into an American Marine Boot Camp they won't make it past the first week. Have you seen the British military commercials? Those commercials are like the Peace Corp commercials of the past. Kind of funny and sad at the same time. However it is not the fault of the enlisted and low rank officers that are to blame. It is the Generals and Politicians that have made the British military as we seen today.
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Azazel
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That post makes me laugh. A lot.
But let's not devolve this into a childish shit-slinging competition. Put it back in your pants and talk about the game, or head over to politics and wave it around all you like.
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jdun
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Have you been in the military or are you full of shit. In fact do you even have an idea what a real military is like instead of the Hollywood version. Have you seen the British boot camp in action? It is a joke.
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Nerf
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Regardless of how funny the british are, comparing SAS to Marine Force Recon is apples and oranges, Force Recon is NOT a member of SOCOM, they are just another unit. It's like comparing the 3rd Mechanics Brigade to the goddamn rangers, one of them is going to be fastroping out of helos to secure a downed satellite, the other is going to be looking for his goddamn 14mm socket.
Edit: I've got a few friends that did their time in the sandbox, and none of them came back talking about how those brits were a bunch of nancy boys, quite the opposite, really. I've got no idea how SAS training compares to Ranger school or BUDs, but I can fucking guarantee you it's quite a bit tougher than ANY of our branches basic training, which if you talk to people that have actually done basic, is generally a walk in the park if you're in shape and don't mind being treated like a week old turd.
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« Last Edit: November 25, 2007, 10:00:56 PM by Nerf »
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Azazel
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I have no idea who you are, besides the fact that you like World In Conflict a whole fucking lot and have 12 or 13 posts here. Please accept my apologies for not taking your statements regarding the differences between modern military forces and training as empirical evidence. You're some random in the internet, so your next post where you claim to be Richard Marcinko is not going to mean much to me.
Now take this bullshit to politics and wave your dick around in there all you like.
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jdun
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You do realize that you do not need to be a commando to be in Special Operations Command. You do realize a lot of US commandos are not under its command. The last time I checked Marin Force Recon are Special Force.
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jdun
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I have no idea who you are, besides the fact that you like World In Conflict a whole fucking lot and have 12 or 13 posts here. Please accept my apologies for not taking your statements regarding the differences between modern military forces and training as empirical evidence. You're some random in the internet, so your next post where you claim to be Richard Marcinko is not going to mean much to me.
Now take this bullshit to politics and wave your dick around in there all you like.
You have no idea what you're talking about. You're a moron that repeat what other morons told you.
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« Last Edit: November 25, 2007, 10:10:21 PM by jdun »
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rk47
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 we should really get along now.... 
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lesion
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So I hear this game is about shooting people?
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NiX
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So I hear this game is about shooting people?
Actually, it's not. It's about PEW PEW! And of course arguing about how military unit X is not as good as military unit Y. How about this jdun and Azazel, I'm sure you can agree on this, the Canadian Army is all "lulz, they have 2 guns and 3 men that need it."
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Nerf
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Commandos? Are you on fucking crack? Are you even aware of the different missions of our SOCOM units? Either way, this kind of thing would've been a job for the rangers, it's what they sit around beating off to all day.
I'm not getting into all the specifics of what our different SOCOM units do, but we do not have "commandos", the smallest operational unit would be the seals, which are generally 4-6man teams, and are not used for this sort of thing.
Also, Marine Special Forces are kind of wierd, up until late 05, there was no Marine attachment of SOCOM, and as far as I can gather, MARCOM recruits extensively from FR, but it's not actually part of it.
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Azazel
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You have no idea what you're talking about. You're a moron that repeat what other morons told you.
I haven't actually repeated anything about anything. I saw your comment about how Marines are PHWOAR and the entire British military is teh suck and girls who cry when their hair is pulled and wish they could be like US MARINES HU-AR and laughed at it. I do hold US Marines (and pretty much all US military forces, for that matter) in high regard, and I consider your retarded posts to be on the same level of discourse as 4th grade "my dad can beat up your dad" bullshit, and an insult to both the British forces and the US forces who you appear to love so much. Hence my requests that you take your dick-waving bullshit to the politics forum. You know, from several posts ago. Now kindly fuck the fucking fuck right off, Mr Internet Troll Board Warrior man. I'm done talking to you since you've made it totally apparent that you're nothing but a fuckwit. ta. Actually, it's not. It's about PEW PEW! And of course arguing about how military unit X is not as good as military unit Y.
How about this jdun and Azazel, I'm sure you can agree on this, the Canadian Army is all "lulz, they have 2 guns and 3 men that need it."
I'm not actually interested in "my army has a bigger dick than your army" stuff. At all. That's jdun. I just laughed at his stupid comments and have since then been suggesting that "stop being a mouthy dickhead" could be a good option for him. Also, this whole section of the thread is destined for the Den. There's little point in it at this stage.
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Nerf
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I can't post in the den, so let me just add now, that based on everything Jdun posted, he knows absolutely nothing about how SOCOM actually operates. He may know a great deal about Marine boot camp, but thats where his knowledge stops.
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squirrel
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Got it yesterday, installed it today, nearly to the end of the SP campaign and boy oh boy, did the ending to the USMC campaign piss me off.
Same. Still fuming over it, I'm not a big multiplayer fan for CoD - rather play TF2. But I do like the SP game. But yeah, that pissed me off...
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Wolf
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Whoever thought that respawning enemies was a good design decision should be shot. In the balls. God I hate that shit.
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As a matter of fact I swallowed one of these about two hours ago and the explanation is that it is, in fact, my hand.
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Nerf
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The multiplayer for ps3 has been lots of fun so far, we're about 13 hours into it right now. Mainly just been doing free-for-all, seems like it's the fastest way to rack up kills (and thereby level up your different guns). Not sure how much fun it'll be once we're finished grinding out all the weapons, though, that's kind of what's been keeping me going.
MOAR GRIND PLIX!
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rk47
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Whoever thought that respawning enemies was a good design decision should be shot. In the balls. God I hate that shit.
I thought I was imagining shit, but your post confirmed my suspicion. I sniped around 20 arabs on the window and they still kept respawning till I stormed that place.
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Jimbo
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Picked this up for xbox 360, about 12 friends have it. I'm buying the damn keyboard/mouse emulator. I haven't even played the single player campaign, but have had fun leveling up on xbox live.
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schild
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The 360 XFPS thing is spotty. Good luck with it.
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Azazel
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Whoever thought that respawning enemies was a good design decision should be shot. In the balls. God I hate that shit.
I thought I was imagining shit, but your post confirmed my suspicion. I sniped around 20 arabs on the window and they still kept respawning till I stormed that place. Yeah, it's a poor design decision. I guess it's to force people to not Turtle through the SP section. Instead, though, it just made me spring through some levels, ignoring the, erm, mobs becaise I knew my indestructable squad would fall in behind me. Best example of that is where you fight your way uphill towards the LZ, then have to change directions for the extract. I just sprinted down to the chinook, only popping about two guys on the way down. The rest of my squad showed up about 90 seconds later and away we went...
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SnakeCharmer
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Got it yesterday, installed it today, nearly to the end of the SP campaign and boy oh boy, did the ending to the USMC campaign piss me off. Yeah, that pretty much sucked ass. Whoever thought that respawning enemies was a good design decision should be shot. In the balls. God I hate that shit. No freaking doubt. I was ready to pull my hair out after the first building I 'cleared' ate up all my ammo. I didn't mind the game being more SAScentric than USMCcentric, but wasn't too pleased with the difficulty disparity level. The USMC missions seemed more difficult (or the Marines just died faster didn't kill as fast / do as much damage as the SAS). It also was a bit...wrong...in that the Force Recon guys where hundreds of Force Recon guys were out running around. Force Recon is the equivalent to the SEALS, and work in the same small groups away from 'regular' Marines. BTW, on the USMC missions, dump the M1A1 (I think it's called) for an AK47. It sucks ass in CoD4.
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Fabricated
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I love the SAS. The British Military isn't what it used to be but no fucking military is what it used to be since uh, WWII has been over for 50+ years. I'm the son of a Marine and from a military family, so I am obviously biased towards the Marines.
The ending to the USMC campaign was retarded from a storytelling point of view since I wasn't emotionally invested due to the piss-poor character development and shit voice acting. The SAS stuff was just way more intense and felt like it had a lot more effort put into it. The USMC shit is hideously linear and scripted even for a Call of Duty title. Enemies KEEP SPAWNING until you walk past an invisible line! I recall grabbing a SAW, and mowing down something like 70+ generic arab soldiers (note how they made them soldiers instead of "insurgents" so there's no discussion of the fuzzy line between them being fighters or civilians with the wrong idea) until I happened to decide to hop over a wall, and then woomp, my generic respawning allies moved forward instead of dying in piles because of the grenade spam.
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"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist." - George Bernard Shaw
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