Next Star Trek Movie: Nimoy, Sylar

[stray]

She was getting old by the time that movie was made, but yeah, she was hot in a way. Probably the last time she was. Black leather helps. That woman has "fuck me" eyes.

[Tebonas]

Whats with you Scots and deep frying everything? And how can I get a Scot to move over here to do it. That deep fried Mars bar I saw in a documentary intrigues me.

[WindupAtheist]

Garak did indeed rock.

Garak:  Please, my daughter is a slave in a mine!  Help me save her!
Kira:  I hate you, but I guess I can help even you with a task like this.
(...)
Garak:  Okay, we've found my daughter!  This is great!
Kira:  Aw Garak, it's nice to see that even you have a heart after all.
Garak:  Now to kill her!
Kira:  WTF!
Garak:  Yeah, why else would I be here?

[Reg]

That wasn't Garak. That was Gul Dukat who also rocked.

[Ironwood]

They took his character right off the deep end.

No pun intended.

[Riggswolfe]

DS9 sucked ass. Mostly because I hated the Captain with a purple passion. There was something about him that made me think he wasn't very fond of white people and it showed. The actor I mean, not the character. That and the only interesting characters in the show were the villains. Worf was too little, too late.

First Contact was the only good Next Gen movie so I think Ironwood might be slightly insane on that count. It had the Borg damn it! And we found out that the Federation was a bunch of communists/socialists! Come on!

The casting of this movie honestly makes me wonder if it's not going to be intentionally funny with Kumar (or Harold I forget which) as Sulu and Simon Pegg as Scotty. The only clearer sign would be casting Jim Carrey as Kirk.

[stray]

DS9 sucked ass. Mostly because I hated the Captain with a purple passion. There was something about him that made me think he wasn't very fond of white people and it showed. The actor I mean, not the character.

OK, now that's funny. And far more dramatic than Ironwood, I must say.


[edit] Kumar isn't funny.

[Murgos]

The casting of this movie honestly makes me wonder if it's not going to be intentionally funny with Kumar (or Harold I forget which) as Sulu and Simon Pegg as Scotty. The only clearer sign would be casting Jim Carrey as Kirk.

Didn't jim Carry do Kirk in skits while on In Living Color?  Or was that someone else?

[Riggswolfe]

The casting of this movie honestly makes me wonder if it's not going to be intentionally funny with Kumar (or Harold I forget which) as Sulu and Simon Pegg as Scotty. The only clearer sign would be casting Jim Carrey as Kirk.

Didn't jim Carry do Kirk in skits while on In Living Color?  Or was that someone else?

Yep. The best one was the Wrath of Farakhan (sp?) about how Kirk was repressing his whole bridge crew.

"What do you mean we Caucosoid?" Heh. I laughed so hard.

[Venkman]

Hated DS9, but in the previous thread like this (or was it this one), I came to understand that it was because I left the show before it got good. And let's all be clear here: TNG didn't begin to get good until well into the third season. You just were more likely to stick with it because it'd been 30 years since the last Trek TV show and probably just came off the high that was Wrath of Kahn on video.

First Contact rocked. No it wasn't Star Trek any more than Independence Day was real sci-fi. But you sat there and went with it because it was a well constructed movie, relative to the rest of the trek movies (except Wrath of Kahn, which was just everything done right). The rest were all "fine" as trek stories, but that's saying that SW: Ep 3 was "fine" as a SW story. It's all in the context of a wayverymuch lowered bar.

[HaemishM]

DS9 was the only good modern Trek. Period.

TNG was pablam. It had a great cast, but the stories were way way way too touchy-feely-lovey-everything's-gonna-be-all-right for my tastes. There wasn't enough asskicking. They focused way too much on Data's search for humanity, and Riker's search for putting the sausage in someone, anyone, NOW NOW NOW. Having to strike up a Betazoid/Klingon romance stunk of desperation.

Voyager... fuck me, that show started on shaky ground and got worse the more we saw the Afrozoids. Brining in a hot Borg chick was like reaching through the screen to handjob all the worthless Trek donks on the planet in an effort to get them to stop dissing the show. It only worked on the virgins, which does make up a large portion of that Trek audience but still. It was insulting. I didn't even watch Enterprise.

[stray]

Voyager did have the Doctor... He was funny. Very gay though. Or maybe he was just a prissy straight guy. I was never sure. And outside TNG, it had a good deal of Q episodes. Those are always good.

I'll agree though that the show as a whole just wasn't that good (even Enterprise might be better), but despite that, I think Janeway could probably kick every captain's ass, even Kirk's. She was practically suicidal (and not in a Kirk-I'm-Just-Bullshitting-You-Kind-of-Way).

[Lantyssa]

You mean Captain "The Prime Directive is Our Top Priority / Damn the Prime Directive!" Janeway?  The tough captain role didn't work for her.  Or my perception of her.  The Doctor was good.  I liked Kim even though there was no "hook" to his character.  Everyone else I can remember grated on my nerves most of the time.

[stray]

No, I mean, I bet she holds a record or something for having the most reckless, suicidal battle plans -- with an additional plan of putting the ship on self-destruct mode in case that fails. Hell, even the premise of the show, and why they got to the Delta Quadrant was because of her recklessness.

[HaemishM]

See, I HATED Q stories. With a passion. I liked the actor they had playing him, but the whole concept just tweaked my testicles. Maybe it was the same reason I hated Holodeck stories, it just seemed like some writers pet period piece with ZOMG Star Trek.

The characters on Voyager I liked. I even liked Janeway to start with, though she quickly got on my nerves. The only characters I didn't like were the alien hitchhikers (the cook and wispy hot chick). I just thought the situations and especially the villains were ass, especially the Afroids.

[WayAbvPar]

Holodeck stories

I just want to know which poor bastard had to mop all the jizz out of the Holodeck after each use. Since you KNOW that is what it would be used for 99.99999999% of the time. I figure that is probably how they got the red shirts who die every other away mission: they had a choice of squeegee duty or exploring some incredibly hazardous alien planet, and chose the lesser of two evils.

[Evil Elvis]

I liked most of the Holodeck stories on TGN, like when Picard was playing a private eye, and the first Sherlock Holmes episode.  The Voyager holodeck stuff, otoh, was incredibly painful to watch.

[stray]

I thought the Flash Gordon/Tom Paris shit was pretty funny. At least one of the episodes was.

DS9 had Garak and Bashir trying to do some James Bond thing, which was funny too.

[Rishathra]

I don't hate Voyager, but it definitely makes me go meh for the most part.  There were some bits that I enjoyed.  Seven of Nine was an obvious attempt at snagging some virgin viewership, but she actually turned out to be a fairly interesting character.  Although they used the word "individual" too much when referring to her.  "I'm trying to learn what it means to be an individual," "Seven, I'm trying to show you what it means to be an individual," and so on.

Tuvok is actually one of my favorite characters of all the series.  It took four different Star Trek shows before we really got to learn more about Vulcan culture and psychology than "we're logical, we suppress our emotions, and we're strong."  Even Spock was more about the conflict between his Vulcan and Human heritage than about his actual Vulcan heritage.

[HaemishM]

Oh yes, Seven of Nine was Data with tits.

[stray]

I disagree with that completely. Data was just curious about humanity, and Seven's story was about rehabilitation and being all conflicted and shit. Plus, she was more concerned with being an individual, not necessarily a "human" one. Big difference there. And as for the actor's themselves -- Spiner is just a funny guy through and through. Even when he's just in the background, tapping away at the console, I kind of laugh a bit. Something very Buster Keaton-ish about him, I don't know. Jeri Ryan played it cold and robotic -- but in a very mean, callous way. Whenever it did happen to be funny, it was in the extent of just how cold she could be. She has more in common with Spock in that respect.

[Simond]

Holodeck stories

I just want to know which poor bastard had to mop all the jizz out of the Holodeck after each use.

My theory: Fed into the replicators and used to create food. Hey, it's all protein...right? 

Since you KNOW that is what it would be used for 99.99999999% of the time.

Another reason why DS9 was the best modern Trek - Quark was pretty upfront about what his holodecks were mostly used for.

Of course, the main reason why it was the best modern Trek was that is was ripping off Babylon 5 left, right and centre.

[Tebonas]

You make that sound like a bad thing. Twice the amount of Babylon 5 is good in my books.

[Simond]

Nah, I like DS9 - I just freely admit what it was, um, 'inspired by'. 

[Samwise]

Holodeck stories

I just want to know which poor bastard had to mop all the jizz out of the Holodeck after each use.

My theory: Fed into the replicators and used to create food. Hey, it's all protein...right? 

All the toilets on the ship (not that we ever saw any on the show) fed right back into the replicators.  So yes, there's no doubt in my mind that holodeck jizz was reclaimed that way.  Along with any replicated props that were used in the simulation -- any object you picked up in the holodeck was seamlessly replicated as a real object, which is why you could eat holodeck food.  This also means that any holodeck people you interact with in close quarters are replicated meat puppets being pushed around by tractor beams.