Making ISOs

[Yegolev]

I find that I need to rip several DVD ISOs today.  The guy that came up with the original method we use to do this is out, so I get to figure this out from the ground up.  These disc do not have any protection (as far as I know... they are SAP Netweaver DVDs, should not need any on-disc protection).  If anyone has a free/simple/basic/free suggestion, I'd love to hear it.

[bhodi]

Which OS?

[Rodent]

Nero seems to have a free trial availible, otherwise DVD Decrypter is freeware I think.

[Yegolev]

Which OS?

Right, sorry.  I'm going to want to use WinXP for convenience.

[Trippy]

I'm confused. Are you trying to rip existing ISOs into another format or burn ISOs onto DVD+-Rs? Or are you trying to make ISOs from some files? Or make an ISO from an existing DVD? In any case DVD Decrypter can do most of the above (I'm not sure it can compile an ISO from files on the hard drive, I use Nero for that). It's a little hard to find these days thanks to Macrovision but here's a link that should work:

http://www.soft32.com/download_75586.html

[raydeen]

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

Not sure if this helps with this project, but it's a good little program and free.

[Trippy]

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

Not sure if this helps with this project, but it's a good little program and free.

Will that make an ISO from a DVD? It looks like it'll do that for a CD but it's not clear from the feature list if it will do that for a DVD.

Edit: actually ignore that, he's working with a data DVD so it doesn't matter.

[Yegolev]

I am a tad confused as well.  I am probably going to end up using a physical jukebox but I would like to get this ISO thing working for performance and stability reasons.  Here's what I am up to, in a nutshell:

1. Upgrading SAP SCM, LiveCache and Oracle on an AIX LPAR.  This isn't really important.  The important bit is that I have nine DVDs and zero DVD drives in the frame.
2. I want to rip an ISO of each DVD (using the drive in my WinXP laptop) and ftp it to a linux box that we use as a virtual jukebox.  I don't know what sort of voodoo I will need to perform in Samba/linux once I get the ISOs out there, but I'll worry about that when I get there.
3. Mount the ISO as filesystems on the AIX server using cifs.
4. Profit.

AIX does not have tools for this sort of stuff, otherwise I would not be in here.  I am probably going to end up using the shitty SmartDAX unit due to time constraints, but I was hoping to move into the modern era today.

[raydeen]

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

Not sure if this helps with this project, but it's a good little program and free.

Will that make an ISO from a DVD? It looks like it'll do that for a CD but it's not clear from the feature list if it will do that for a DVD.

Edit: actually ignore that, he's working with a data DVD so it doesn't matter.

Yep, it'll do DVD ISO's. First option when you launch the program. Haven't done it myself, but it's there.

[Yegolev]

Thanks for the replies.  I now have an ISO but no idea what to do with it.  Sigh.  Since I found out I was going to also need a sftp client for WinXP, I decided to use the SmartDAX for now.  Stupid security.

[Lantyssa]

Thanks for the replies.  I now have an ISO but no idea what to do with it.  Sigh.  Since I found out I was going to also need a sftp client for WinXP, I decided to use the SmartDAX for now.  Stupid security.

Use WinSCP.

[Yoru]

Pff. PSCP fo' life.

[Hoax]

Thanks for the replies.  I now have an ISO but no idea what to do with it.  Sigh.  Since I found out I was going to also need a sftp client for WinXP, I decided to use the SmartDAX for now.  Stupid security.

Use WinSCP.

 *swoon*

[bhodi]

Edit: nevermind.  pscp 4 life, yo. And yeah, you can just mount the iso directly ;)

[Yegolev]

Use WinSCP.

Turns out I had already downloaded this at some point in history, but never installed it.  Still, good lookin' out, this thread is getting some legs.  Maybe you know something about Samba exporting ISOs?

[Lantyssa]

Turns out I had already downloaded this at some point in history, but never installed it.  Still, good lookin' out, this thread is getting some legs.  Maybe you know something about Samba exporting ISOs?

No, sorry.  My Samba experience has consisted of getting an NSF mount to a windows machine working.  About two years ago.

I'll try out pscp some time.    I'm generally not the one that uses the linux machines around here, so I don't bother to look for anything beyond what works for those that do need it.  If they want perfection they can learn how to google themselves, the bunch of lazy slackers.

[bhodi]

Why do you need samba to export ISOs? you're going from (presumably unix deriviative, since you're using samba) to irix. mount has a iso9660 option, you can mount it as it's own filesystem.

Unless that iso's on a windows machine like your laptop and you want to mount it... I've never done that, and I'm not sure it's possible, without copying it to the local machine first.. Although... you MIGHT be able to do it, I've never tried. I've never really had to mount a windows share as a unix filesystem before, it's always been the other way around.

[Yegolev]

Why do you need samba to export ISOs? you're going from (presumably unix deriviative, since you're using samba) to irix. mount has a iso9660 option, you can mount it as it's own filesystem.

The target server is AIX, not Irix.  The AIX mount command does not have a [documented] iso option, otherwise I'd once again be credited with single-handedly saving the company.  Or something.  I could call IBM and see what they say, but my assumption is that if it were possible we would already be using one of the many AIX servers we have rather than some bothersome samba/linux/nfs solution (yeah, we have a handful of ISO exported from this linux machine already, but no one in the office seems to remember how it was done).  The people on my team are some of the top AIX people outside IBM so my assumption is a pretty solid one; if it was possible, it would be out there already.  We don't care for linux.

Unless that iso's on a windows machine like your laptop and you want to mount it... I've never done that, and I'm not sure it's possible,

It is certainly possible, but generally undesirable when I can use AIX as the server.  We have documented instances of mounting a WinNT (yes) fs onto an AIX machine; Samba was involved, I think.

I'll figure out how to make it work eventually.  Not today, it seems, but this thread has been helpful.

[Trippy]

Does this help?

If this is just a data disc why do you need to mount the ISO? Why not just copy all the files somewhere?

Edit: also since you are using Linux and NFS you could probably just mount the image on Linux and make that path available to your AIX machines through NFS.

[Yegolev]

Does this help?

Well, it certainly gives me some ideas.  Thanks for digging that up.  That is a strange place to put that information.  Damn IBM.  I'll give this a whirl after my three ongoing database restores and those damn upgrades.  If it works, I'll buy you a cookie.

If this is just a data disc why do you need to mount the ISO? Why not just copy all the files somewhere?

One big, technical sticking point is that SAP and everything they make is case-insensitive.  Usually you know what the case is going to be, but since the SAP (and possibly Oracle, since they are SAP-pressed discs) install scripts themselves mix case in unfortunate ways, plus there being no guarantee that filenames will be correct on UNIX, it's really, really, really much easier to mount things in a case-insensitive way.  Maybe there's a workaround buried inside some other unrelated documentation on how to do that.  Maybe this isn't an issue now, either due to SAP getting with the program (snicker) or the DVD format.  Damn SAP.

Edit: also since you are using Linux and NFS you could probably just mount the image on Linux and make that path available to your AIX machines through NFS.

If your link works, that is exactly what I would do.  I am hoping that any case-sensitivity issue would be quickly apparent instead of sneaking up on us in the middle of the upgrade.  That would make people unhappy.  You'll get your winner-cookie even if there is a case issue, since I could still use it to mount things made by real software developers.

My DB restore just finished, so it's sleepy time.

[Yegolev]

I think you had it right, Trip.  The problem is that the dd takes HOURS with a 1.5GB ISO.  So I didn't actually mount the ISO, instead just dumping the disc into a temp fs... the good news is that case-sensitivity didn't bite us in the ass while running prepare, so I guess we're good to go with this hacked-up construct.  Cookie for you anyway since you had the "real" answer.

[Hoax]

I can barely keep track of what the fuck threads are about these days with all these animated avatars...   

[Cheddar]

I can barely keep track of what the fuck threads are about these days with all these animated avatars...   

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