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on: May 05, 2005, 11:57:47 AM

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Noodlers get trial season

Hand fishing will be legal in parts of three state rivers from June 1 to July 15.

By Brent Frazee
Knight Ridder

     

Kansas City — Howard Ramsey remembers the day he waded into the Salt River in northeastern Missouri, swam into a hole in the bank and caught a big catfish with his bare hands.

Then a game warden caught him.

"I knew noodling wasn't allowed there, but the temptation was just too strong," said Ramsey, 57, who lives in Paris, a town in the middle fork of the Salt River valley. "I got a $500 fine out of that deal. That hurt."

More than anything, that fishing trip sent Ramsey on a long mission — a campaign to get hand fishing, more commonly known as noodling, legalized in Missouri.

Noodling is when fishermen go underwater, find a big catfish and grab it by the lip or jaw. Or, the fish can grab them, clamping down on an arm, wrist or leg. The fish is then wrestled to the surface.

It's an accepted sport in 11 other states, including Arkansas, Oklahoma and Illinois. But since 1919, it has been illegal in Missouri.

That will change slightly this year. In December, the Missouri Conservation Commission (the overseers of the Missouri Department of Conservation) approved an experimental season that will allow noodling in stretches of three Missouri rivers — the Mississippi, the St. Francis and the Fabius — for a limited time this summer. These waters were chosen because they are connected to waterways where commercial fishing is legal.

But fishermen such as Ramsey and the 200 men and women who belong to his Noodlers Anonymous group aren't satisfied. They think it's time for Missouri to have a statewide season.

They have taken their fight to the General Assembly, lobbying state legislators for their help. In the process, noodling has become an unusual issue in this year's session, with several bills introduced that would allow hand fishing.

Meanwhile, noodlers and fisheries officials with the Missouri Department of Conservation continue to search for a common ground.

Biologists worry that hand fishing could have a damaging effect on catfish populations and that noodlers target the biggest fish in the population at a time when they are most vulnerable — when the fish retreat to holes to nest.

Noodlers argue that that it takes a special breed to have the courage to pull a big catfish out of a hole by hand; that they don't have enough fishermen in their ranks to do harm to the fish population. And they say there are more catfish in many of these streams than fisheries officials think.

And around and around it goes.

Biologists still choose a cautious approach. And fishermen such as Ramsey still dream of the day when they can go noodling in Missouri without having to look over their shoulder to see if the game warden is coming.

"Missouri has some of the best noodling water in the country," Ramsey said. "But we can't fish it. That's a shame. That just isn't right."

A dangerous hobby

When Ramsey gets a bite when he goes catfishing, it hurts. He isn't dangling a worm or a piece of chicken liver on a hook in front of the fish. The only bait he uses is his fingers or his toes. And when a big catfish clamps down, Ramsey knows it.

"I have a lot of scars from where big flatheads have bit me," Ramsey said. "When you swim into one of their holes, they aren't too happy to see you.

"I've had them clamp down so tight on my arm that I didn't know if they'd ever let go. They have rows of tiny teeth, and when you try to pull your arm out of their mouth, they'll just skin you. I even had one fish that tore my tennis shoe right off my foot. I couldn't walk for a couple days. But that's all part of it.

"It can be a dangerous sport, but it's worth it. When you pull a 50-, 60-pound flathead out of a hole by hand and your heart starts thumping, you know it's worth it."

Ramsey said a noodler's biggest fear is how a fish will react when confronted. Occasionally, a big catfish will grab a fisherman's arm and start rolling, which can result in an arm or wrist being broken.

How it works

When Ramsey goes noodling these days, he often travels to states such as Illinois or Oklahoma and wades shallow rivers. Once he locates a hole in the bank, he will hold his breath and go underwater.

Then, while a friend holds his ankles, he will swim into the hole headfirst. The catfish often meets him at the door, as he puts it.

That's when things can get interesting.

"When I grab that catfish by the jaw, I'll kick my legs to tell my buddy that it's time to pull me out," Ramsey said. "I've caught catfish as big as 62 pounds that way."

Ramsey takes pride in the fact that he comes from a long line of noodlers.

His dad was a noodler, and his grandfather was, too. Heck, Ramsey even has the pictures to prove that both of his aunts also caught big catfish by hand.

"I have a picture from 1944 showing my aunts posing with a big flathead they caught," Ramsey said. "It's just something that's always been in our blood."

But the Ramseys aren't alone. Gary Webb of Ludlow also has traveled near and far for the chance of catching a big catfish by hand.

He has taken his share — including a 97-pound blue cat that he wrestled out of a hole in a river bank. But it's the big one that got away that intrigues him the most.

"We had a huge cat that we nicknamed old Walter that whipped five of us for three years," Webb said. "... He even took a bite out of my friend's shin and thigh. We got a look at him, and we knew he had to be over 100 pounds. But we never were able to catch him."

A loyal following

For as long as catfish have roamed rivers, there has been hand fishing.

Historian James Adair wrote of how the southern Indians would dive down and reach under rocks to catch catfish by hand. And in southern states such as Mississippi, noodling has long been part of the rural culture.

In Missouri and Kansas, it hasn't been legal. But that doesn't mean it's not going on. Law-enforcement officers in both states acknowledge there is illegal hand fishing taking place. Tickets are issued each year. But for each person who is caught, there are many other fishermen who manage to give the warden the slip, many say.

It's just that many of those fishermen won't readily admit as much. That's where the name Noodlers Anonymous came from.

"A lot of these fishermen don't want their names getting out," Ramsey said.

A study by Mark Morgan, an instructor at the University of Missouri, estimated that there are 2,000 noodlers in Missouri. His study showed that most of them are men, average age 40, with a rural background.

"For a lot of us, this is an adventure," Ramsey said. "It's meeting the fish on his terms and having a fair fight."

Steve Eder, fisheries division administrator for the Missouri Department of Conservation, admits noodling has a loyal following in Missouri. But that doesn't mean it's right to open the state's waters to unrestricted hand fishing, he said.

It's his job to weigh what's good for the fishermen and what's good for the fish. And he, as well as many other fisheries biologists, are worried that hand fishing could have a damaging effect on Missouri's catfish population.

"We do have habitat problems in some of our streams, especially in northern Missouri," Eder said. "Many of them have been channelized over the years, taking away good spawning areas. There aren't that many flatheads per square mile to start with. If we legalize hand fishing, that could further reduce the densities of big fish.

"Hand fishermen do seem to be more efficient at taking big fish than other types of fishermen. And that could be a problem."

That problem isn't evident in Oklahoma, a state that has allowed hand fishing for years. There, Kim Erickson, chief of fisheries for the Department of Wildlife Conservation, said, "We don't see anything to indicate it's impacting the resource."

But Erickson was quick to add, "We're not telling Missouri what to do. Just because it works here doesn't mean it will there."

Limited season

Even with the trial season, noodlers say they didn't get much. They worry that the Mississippi and St. Francis are dangerous rivers for the sport because of the fast currents. That leaves the Fabius, which could be a good spot for noodling but may become overcrowded.

The Department of Conservation also is considering a proposal to study catfish populations on six other rivers (which will be determined later) to see whether their catfish populations are large enough to justify limited hand fishing. But even if that plan is approved, legalized noodling on those rivers probably wouldn't be seen for at least two years.

"We're trying to work with the hand fisherman," Eder said, "but we have an obligation to protect the resource, too.

"Right now, I can't see us having a statewide season because of habitat concerns on many streams."
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Reply #1 on: May 05, 2005, 12:00:11 PM

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"I knew noodling wasn't allowed there, but the temptation was just too strong," said Ramsey, 57, who lives in Paris, a town in the middle fork of the Salt River valley. "I got a $500 fine out of that deal. That hurt."

Probably because it is a month's pay for his redneck ass.

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Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 12:21:18 PM

Month hell. That's like 6 months worth of Pabst Blue Ribbon.

Why not legalize it? Yeah, it's stupid as shit, but a lot more challenging than the radar-guided, chemically-irrestible bait-laden bass boat missles of death most serious fishermen use. Motherfucker can wrestle a catfish that size to the surface with his bare hands, let the man keep his fish.

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Reply #3 on: May 05, 2005, 12:26:43 PM

Okie noodlin' is awesome. There's a great PBS documentary with that title that's all about it. I wish all hunting and fishing were that primal. Laser-guided AK-47s have no place in the woods. Unless you are Rambo. Which you are not.

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Reply #4 on: May 05, 2005, 12:52:46 PM

Unless you are Rambo. Which you are not.

But... but if I wear a red sock around my head and put some dirt on my face you'd never know the difference! First Blood!

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Reply #5 on: May 05, 2005, 01:16:33 PM

Why not legalize it? Yeah, it's stupid as shit, but a lot more challenging than the radar-guided, chemically-irrestible bait-laden bass boat missles of death most serious fishermen use. Motherfucker can wrestle a catfish that size to the surface with his bare hands, let the man keep his fish.
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Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 02:23:03 PM

Okie noodlin' is awesome. There's a great PBS documentary with that title that's all about it.

I saw part of it once on PBS and was able to find it on Netflix last time noodling came up here. God, those got to be some of the ugliest fish ever. Most seem to be tequila-and-bean-burrito-vomit colored.
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Reply #7 on: May 05, 2005, 03:26:32 PM

The toothless hicks catchin' those fuckers ain't too pretty theyselves.

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Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 06:58:16 PM

The number of idjuts willing to do this is pretty much on par with the number of cats that live that long.

So no, ban 'em and force 'em to reroll a new account.
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Reply #9 on: May 06, 2005, 09:03:46 AM

Frankly I don't think there are enough nuts who want to swim down and catch fish with their bare hands. That has got to take more effort than bait fishing does. The main thing would be to have some seasons so they are not doing it when it is breeding season for the fish and make them get a fishing license like everybody else.


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Reply #10 on: May 06, 2005, 09:09:45 AM

These fish are *old*.  Often well past the half-century mark.  And with the number of water areas left alone dwindling each year they'll just be that much more rare and the species will suffer.  Idjuts we'll probably always have plenty of... ;-)
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Reply #11 on: May 06, 2005, 10:17:56 AM

make them get a fishing license like everybody else.

I agree.  I'm deeply suspicious of the "well, there aren't that many of us, so let us do whatever the hell we want, we won't impact anything" argument. 

Is it really sheer coincidence that the best noodling waters are in the areas where noodling is restricted?  Wonder how long that'd last once they made it open season.
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Reply #12 on: September 08, 2005, 03:48:20 PM

Quote from: National Geographic
Using Hands As Bait, "Noodlers" Stalk Giant Catfish

Yancey Hall
for National Geographic News
September 8, 2005

See Photos of Handfishers and Giant Catfish

Some people call it the Mount Everest of fishing. But most everyone else describes "noodling," or handfishing, as just plain crazy.

The sport's disciples wade river and lake bottoms, probing and prodding for the holes where monster flathead catfish lurk during breeding season. Handfishers then dive down and reach into the underwater lairs, hoping that a monster "cat" will chomp on the proffered bait—the noodler's hand.

What ensues next is a judo match of sorts as the angler wrestles the fish to the surface. Never mind the occasional snapping turtle or snake that gets in the way. Or for that matter, the toothy jaws of the huge fish that can bloody hands and forearms.

First practiced by Native Americans, noodling takes place during the warm summer months when catfish spawn in the southern and midwestern United States.

Depending on the region, the sport goes by many names. In Nebraska, it's known as "stumping." In other places it's called "grabbling," "hogging," "dogging," "graveling," or "tickling."

In Oklahoma, the pastime is known as noodling, which according to the Oxford English Dictionary, describes "a stupid person." Coincidence? Perhaps.

The Super Bowl of Noodling

The sport's biggest event is arguably the annual Okie Noodling Tournament held each June in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma. Contestants of all ages convene at the event headquarters, Bob's Pig Shop, before setting off for nearby waters.

Entrants are divided into two categories: scuba and natural. The latter group handfishes without the aid of scuba gear, and during this year's tournament the biggest "naturally" caught fish weighed in at 51 pounds (23 kilograms).

Champion noodler Lee McFarlin took the prize fish with a little help from his daughter, Misty, the 2005 Okie Noodling Queen, who helped her father bring the monster catfish up from its hole.

"Everybody tells me I'm the guru of noodling," the elder McFarlin boasted following his win. "Until you can control that fish, he will whip your butt every time."

The secret to his success, he says, is a wrist-locking technique used for extra leverage on the big ones, which prevents the fish from spinning out of his hands. And whereas most anglers simply swipe their hands in a hole to check for a fish, McFarlin often uses a stick to probe the farthest-to-reach nooks.

McFarlin is quick to point out noodling should be practiced with two companions for safety. The extra hands can also block escape routes for wary fish.

More celebrity these days than hand-grabber, McFarlin routinely appears on television and radio talk shows around the world to describe the sport to the curious.

During his nearly 20 years as a noodler, he has caught catfish weighing up to 70 pounds (32 kilograms) and narrowly missed one that was well over a 100 pounds (45 kilograms).

The behemoth "was every bit of seven and a half feet [two meters] long. His head was wider than my whole chest," McFarlin recalls. "If I caught that fish, I would retire right then."

Noodling Battleground

Handfishing may be summertime fun for many, but some states have outlawed the practice.

Some conservationists argue that the practice can disturb populations of sexually mature fish at the worst possible time—breeding season.

Only this year has Missouri allowed a trial season in three waterways. The move was not without controversy, and it came with intense lobbying from a group called Noodlers Anonymous.

Enter Howard Ramsay, president and founder of the group, who goes by the mantra, "If you're not bleeding, you're not handfishing." The 59-year-old has been noodling since he was 12 and says he once received a U.S. $500 fine for illegally catching a fish in 1991.

Five years ago Ramsay began a personal odyssey to legalize handfishing in Missouri, which has outlawed the practice since the early 20th century. He says he founded Noodlers Anonymous to give a voice to the cause and legalize the sport in the state.

"We've got about 500 members statewide, but there's only maybe a 100 or 150 that have their names down," Ramsay said. "That's been the biggest problem with this organization. Nobody wants to come out of the closet and admit they're a hand-fisherman."

After years of lobbying both the state house of representatives and the Missouri Department of Conservation (DOC), Ramsey finally succeeded in convincing the DOC to allow a trial season for three Missouri waterways.

Reasons for the state's ban have traditionally been cultural. Some rod-and-tackle catfish anglers consider noodling unsportsmanlike. Another concern is taking fish off the nest when they're spawning—a reason Ramsay is quick to debunk.

"We've had one of the world's leading authorities on flathead catfish, Dr. Donald Jackson, speak about handfishing to the [Missouri DOC] regulations committee," Ramsay said. "His studies have shown that noodling does not have an adverse effect on the catfish population. There's just not that many people doing it."

Of the approximately 500,000 catfishers in Missouri, only about 2,000 are noodlers.

Wildlife officials say it's too early to draw conclusions from this summer's trial handfishing season. When the season ended in July, only about a hundred noodlers had registered for permits.

Steve Eder, the Fisheries Division administrator for the Missouri Department of Conservation, says more time for study will be needed before the season can be opened up statewide.

Family Tradition


Despite the controversy, Ramsay and his fellow noodlers continue to hit the water in search of the big one. Most handfishers regard their sport not as a thrill-seeking pastime but as a revered tradition passed on to each generation—male and female.

"I've got a son and a daughter, and both of them were raised catching fish with their hands—and of course my wife too," Ramsay said. "I've got two granddaughters that are just starting. One is seven and one is eight. It's wholesome family fun is what it is."

Still, heart-pounding brushes with monster catfish and other critters do happen. Ramsay says he had his shoe torn off by a flathead when he stuck his leg into an underwater hole.

McFarlin, the Okie Noodling Tournament champion, recalls a more bizarre incident: the time a fellow noodler unwittingly fished out a beaver. But that's another story altogether.


Champion "noodler," or handfisher, Lee McFarlin holds a giant flathead catfish.

I am firmly convinced that in a previous life I was a noodler.
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Reply #13 on: September 08, 2005, 05:00:27 PM



Hard to tell which one of them is the more advanced species.

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Reply #14 on: September 12, 2005, 11:35:43 AM

Probably the one without the NASCAR hat in his wardrobe.

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