Rolling a Death Knight as a New Main? Infos to help!

[tkinnun0]

The Tirion you meet in EPL (who asks you to kill plaguebats etc) is just living a hermit's life and not particularly interested in fighting the scourge. After you do that long questline for him (omitting various spoilery things here), he eventually storms off to recreate the Silver Hand, which eventually turns into the Argent Crusade... of course this questline was created waaaay before WOTLK, or even BC.

No, I think my version is correct, Tirion has a funny hat with "Equip: makes wearer appear as ?? Boss" and he huffs and puffs a lot. If it isn't like it happens in the game then it's not canon.

[apocrypha]

I concur. I respecced my 'lock into God mode and find I can take on multiples constantly with little to no downtime beside the odd having to go to single mobs so I can bandage.  I just need to sort out some targetting macros so that I don't keep tabbing to the mobs that are nearly dead.

I'm doing pretty much the same with my enhance (plus a bit of ele) Shaman in Howling Fjord at the moment. Several times I've gone for a cobalt node and realised I've pulled 5-6 mobs in the process but come out of it with no need to do anything more than straighten my tie  

[kildorn]

I need to read some pointers on Unholy DK pvp, anyone got some links?  I keep getting rolled by Rogues 2-3 levels below me and that just shouldn't happen.  Then again, said rogues also had ~16k hps because they were in full S3 crap as I mucked about with as many hps in just greens/ quest crap. Hooray.

Ghoul stun them if they're unholy long enough to get any instant and Icebound Fort off (you just want to throw off a stun rotation) and then lay into them.

[Draegan]

I need to read some pointers on Unholy DK pvp, anyone got some links?  I keep getting rolled by Rogues 2-3 levels below me and that just shouldn't happen.  Then again, said rogues also had ~16k hps because they were in full S3 crap as I mucked about with as many hps in just greens/ quest crap. Hooray.

Well it's all about timing your fight vs. his cloaking and removing the diseases.  Also his timing cloak with your icebound fortitude.

Frost Mages own DKs due to snaring and blinking out of Death Grip.

Paladins can cleanse themselves and just bubble kill you.

DK's are supposed to be the rock to a Druid's Scissor with Plague Strike though.

If you keep dieing it's because you have zero resilience and your opponent has a lot of pvp gear with a shit load of resilience and stam.

[Vash]

I need to read some pointers on Unholy DK pvp, anyone got some links?  I keep getting rolled by Rogues 2-3 levels below me and that just shouldn't happen.  Then again, said rogues also had ~16k hps because they were in full S3 crap as I mucked about with as many hps in just greens/ quest crap. Hooray.

I saw a Death Knight video a few days ago where a 80 DK was dueling people (beta footage) and absolutely humiliating rogues/warlocks and even beating a ret pally with only 1-2 close calls.  I can't find the video again for the life of me but I found this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk7jpPGXPEs.  Similar spec and playstyle to the one I saw the other day but doesn't use Anti-Magic Zone as much/aggresively as he  probably should.  Couldn't tell if he had/used mark of blood in the video either which I know the DK in the duel video had.

Edit: A thing to note in lvl 80 beta pvp videos is that I understand everyone was given lvl 80 pvp gear so they are all running around in 800+ resil gear.

[Koyasha]

to bring forth Tirion Fordring so he could be defeated.

The ridiculous thing is that, as I'm also following the guide from OP, I got to see Tirion soon afterwards in his true form. He is a pathetic L61 elite who can't even kill a few plaquebats without help. I would've killed him there and then if I could have attacked.

There's a bit of a timeline discrepancy there (and a bit of retconning), which WOW doesn't handle well.

The Tirion you meet in EPL (who asks you to kill plaguebats etc) is just living a hermit's life and not particularly interested in fighting the scourge. After you do that long questline for him (omitting various spoilery things here), he eventually storms off to recreate the Silver Hand, which eventually turns into the Argent Crusade... of course this questline was created waaaay before WOTLK, or even BC.


-- Z.

Mostly right, but left a bit out.  The Argent Dawn was created when Highlord Alexandros Mograine of the Scarlet Crusade, the Ashbringer, was first killed by his son, Renault Mograine (the one from Scarlet Monastery).  After that happened, High Inquisitor Fairbanks managed to make it back to the monastery, and despite being plagued, he got the word out of what had happened, to some degree.  The Argent Dawn was formed from the people who listened to Fairbanks' story.

Fast forward a year or two, and you come to WoW's opening timeline four years ago.  At this point Tirion Fordring is living as a hermit as he's lost most of his hope.  The actions of the player, while following his quest line, restore his confidence and hope, and he goes off to reform the Knights of the Silver Hand.

Go forward another year and a half or so to the release of the Naxxramas patch, and the Corrupted Ashbringer is recovered.  It gets brought to Scarlet Monastery and Alexandros Mograine kills Renault in the famous cutscene there.  

After this, probably after another year (sometime during Burning Crusade), Ashbringer finds its way somehow to the hands of Darion Mograine, the son that was presumed to be in Outland.  I'm guessing they originally had planned a quest for this, but they skipped it.  The story is told in some comic, I understand.  Darion Mograine somehow determines that killing himself with Ashbringer will redeem and release his father's spirit, and does so.  He becomes a Death Knight of the Lich King in the process (I'm unsure of the details).

Another year or so passes, bringing us to present time, where the events of the Death Knight intro sequence happen.  During the intervening years, Tirion Fordring has recreated the Knights of the Silver Hand, and allied them with the Argent Dawn.  Curiously we never actually see any Silver Hand NPC's in game (or are there some at the battle?  I didn't really notice the names of random NPC's), but basically there's supposed to be Knights of the Silver Hand somewhere, under Tirion Fordring's command.

It's at that point that the Argent Crusade is created, when Tirion Fordring unites the Knights of the Silver Hand with the Argent Dawn.