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Azazel
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They never live up to their promises. In an interview with Destructoid, Microsoft director for Xbox 360 and Live product management, Aaron Greenberg, has ripped into Sony. He claims the consumer electronics giant continually fails to deliver on its promises, citing Home, Killzone 2 and Sixaxis as examples, among others. "I know a lot of folks enjoy watching the console wars and we would never underestimate our competition. But... didn’t Sony promise all of this last year including Home as well? We have been fighting Sony’s promises from the day we entered the market and if you remember at that time it was all about PS2 being an online cybercity with partner announcements from the likes of RealNetworks and AOL," noted Greenberg. "Then three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get Killzone out the door." Greenberg went on, citing various other promises that Sony has failed to live up to. "Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays for a product that appears to have little to no buzz. Where are the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where is the long-promised video store? "Where are all the other products using and networking with their CELL chip? How come Blu-ray did not result in better games? What happened with Sixaxis and rumble? Where is the complete 1080p game library we were promised? If Blu-ray as they said would be such a catalyst to PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months not seen any lift since the format victory?" The Xbox 360, on the other hand, is just the bee's knees. "The reality is that Xbox 360 is leading this generation with a larger installed base, more than 2xs the games library, the most exclusives along with the leading online service and community. Today Xbox 360 has a 5-million-unit console sales lead on a global basis based on most recently public reported data from both companies," stated Greenberg - which is not what David Reeves said earlier this week. Greenberg wasn't finished, adding a final jab. "While we have not yet announced all of our plans for the full year, I am confident that we will extend our lead over the PS3 in 2008. The days of Sony snowing the consumers and the press are over, I think the pressure is now really on them more than ever to deliver on all of these promises." http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=11413&sid=d4b3df390b42b16220a579b2a975d1a8&title=Microsoft+director+Greenberg+rips+into+Sony----------------------------------------- He neatly skips over the fact that 360s are more fragile than a Faberge' Egg, but some of the other stuff seems interesting. |
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Margalis
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Too bad MS is the master of making vaporware announcements to try to scare off competitors.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Azazel
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They all are, really. I'm not sure I'd say MS is the master though. Remember the "supercomputer" tripe around the PS2?
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Velorath
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They never live up to their promises.
In an interview with Destructoid, Microsoft director for Xbox 360 and Live product management, Aaron Greenberg, has ripped into Sony. He claims the consumer electronics giant continually fails to deliver on its promises, citing Home, Killzone 2 and Sixaxis as examples, among others.
I agree. On the other hand, MS has the same problem with Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Banjo Kazooie 3, etc.. |
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Margalis
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They all are, really. I'm not sure I'd say MS is the master though. Remember the "supercomputer" tripe around the PS2?
With MS it goes well beyond games. Whenever anyone in the software business talks to VCs they first have to do homework and figure out of MS has spoken about doing anything similar. That's not quite as true today but up until a couple years ago it was the norm. And MS has a long history of projects like their set-top web-browser that were put out specifically to tank competitors rather than be decent products. |
vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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SuperPopTart
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Why does this kind of remind me of Satan chastising his child, Satan Jr.
I'm not sure that Microsoft, in any capacity has the right to be talking about the failed promises and deliveries of any of their competition based upon their own string of bad products and limited customer support.
Edited For Spelling.
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Lantyssa
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They all are, really. I'm not sure I'd say MS is the master though. Remember the "supercomputer" tripe around the PS2?
Some research groups chain PS3s together for computing power. So it is true. That doesn't say anything for whether it makes a good game console or not though. |
Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Azazel
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That's great, but Sony was claiming that several years ago regarding the PS2. It was just an example of hyperbolic bullshit as sprouted by one of (any of) the console manufacturers.
So I'm going with Not True.
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Big Gulp
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I agree with what he's saying, but it's just tacky that he did so. Whenever I see a company talking shit about it's competition it just makes me think, "Wow, they're really scared". And they should be; from Vista, to the cockamamie Yahoo deal, to 360's being apparently made out of tissue paper, Microsoft appears to be an incompetent, unfocused company.
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ahoythematey
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Microsoft talking shit about a competitor. What. A. Shock.
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Azazel
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ok credit there then. The article I was thinking about when I posted the original comment was actually the one where they were spouting that computers (ie home ones) would be made obsolete by the supercomputing power of the PS2. It wasn't about daisy-chaining them for computing specific data (which is what Lanty assumed I was on about from my non-specific comment). I remember reading a thread on it here. |
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"While we have not yet announced all of our plans for the full year, I am confident that we will extend our lead over the PS3 in 2008. The days of Sony snowing the consumers and the press are over, I think the pressure is now really on them more than ever to deliver on all of these promises. Deliver me a console that I know won't break after less than a year and we'll talk, dipshit. |
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Azazel
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Maybe consoles that don't spontaneously combust are part of their long-term plans for the year?  |
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Strazos
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My 360 works great. /shrug
I would think they would try to bypass all the BS sending out multiple systems to people and just hook them up with the newer architectures....you know, the ones that run properly.
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Murgos
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My 360 works great. /shrug
I said the same thing until GTA:IV came along. Now, unreadable disc errors are a once or twice a session thing. It's not that the disc is unreadable, it's fine, it's that the drive doesn't ever bother to spin up and provide data, so I imagine it's some weird driver issue. Restarting works, except for the part where I loose any progress I had made since last save. |
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AcidCat
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While I did have to replace my 360 due to the red ring, I had to replace my original Playstation *twice* within the first year, and my PS2 stopped playing dvd movies after about a year. So Microsoft definitely doesn't have a monopoly on unreliable consoles.
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While I did have to replace my 360 due to the red ring, I had to replace my original Playstation *twice* within the first year, and my PS2 stopped playing dvd movies after about a year. So Microsoft definitely doesn't have a monopoly on unreliable consoles.
Yes, but there are some people who never had to replace their PS1s and PS2s at all. Every single launch 360 will eventually break. Every Single One. |
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