Apple can suck my ass

[SnakeCharmer]

I must be one of the few people on earth that does not own an MP3 player, does not care to own an MP3 player, and will probably NEVER own an MP3 player.

[WayAbvPar]

I must be one of the few people on earth that does not own an MP3 player, does not care to own an MP3 player, and will probably NEVER own an MP3 player.

Why do you hate freedom?

[SnakeCharmer]

I must be one of the few people on earth that does not own an MP3 player, does not care to own an MP3 player, and will probably NEVER own an MP3 player.

Why do you hate freedom?

LOL! Hating freedom? Ooooookay.  Not sure I see how having to constantly be entertained as a measure of freedom, but whatever floats your boat.  I suppose it's that I am one of the few remaining people that doesnt suffer from some sort of attention deficit disorder.  I *can* walk (or ride, whatever) from point a to point b without having to have some sort of distraction.  In fact, I prefer walking / running without having to be 'entertained'. 

I wouldn't own a cel phone if it weren't necessary for my job.  Or a pager. 

[Sky]

Even if you don't need to be 'entertained' while walking, you don't see the need for a cell phone if your car breaks down? For an "mp3" player so you don't need to lug around a thousand cds?

Must be everyone else's ADD. You hate freedom.

[SnakeCharmer]

Even if you don't need to be 'entertained' while walking, you don't see the need for a cell phone if your car breaks down? For an "mp3" player so you don't need to lug around a thousand cds?

Must be everyone else's ADD, you smug, pompous ass. You hate freedom.

Weren't you fine before without a cel phone?

People have been conditioned to thinking they *need* cel phones.  That they *need* mp3 players.  Why do I or you *need* to lug around thousands of CDs? 

Guess what?  You don't.

What did you do before mp3 players?  How did you ever survive?  Could you walk from point a to point b without HAVING to listen to music or be entertained?  Could you not quietly sit still for 5 minutes? An hour? 

You're a demokrat, aren't you?

[Miasma]

That's a silly argument.  You also don't *need* music at all but once you've decided that you *want* it anyways why not choose the most convenient method?

[Sky]

I'm a musician. I like to have music with me. I listened to a crappy tape deck when I walked as a kid, it's not like mp3 players created something new. They drastically improved it, is all. I like to have all my cds in one place so I can throw on some headphones and click on a track to play with. When I go to play drums, I need music to play along with. When I travel I like to have thousands of cds along, just in case I get in the mood for Old Blue Eyes or something I didn't think of.

As for the bit about being fine before cell phones...yeah, I love walking a few miles in the rain or bitter cold to ask someone for a fucking jump. I don't see how being able to dial AAA while sitting in my car is any sort of improvement.

I'm a libertarian, thanks for asking. I do have ADHD, thanks for being a dick about it.

Ah don't like dem dere telerphones. Whah people alwahs talkin'? I don't need ta talk! And dem autermobeels, whah everone in such a hurrah? Git off mah lawn! 

[HaemishM]

What did you do before mp3 players?  How did you ever survive?  Could you walk from point a to point b without HAVING to listen to music or be entertained?  Could you not quietly sit still for 5 minutes? An hour? 

Let me just explain something to you. I was dead before the Internet and Tivo. I was an unliving soul, coasting through life. Those two inventions have single-handedly saved my very soul, opened my eyes to the beauty of the world, and made me a whole man. There was no history before the Internet and Tivo.

I could live without an MP3 player or a cell phone, but you'll pry my Tivo from my cold dead hands.

[Yegolev]

Having a cell phone would have helped me tremendously that time I ran out of gas in West Virginia in the middle of the night.  It was below freezing, too, and for a while we were looking for an abandoned building to sleep in so that we might not die.

I am not making this up.  I know it's hard to tell with me.

[dEOS]

You ran out of gas ?

There is this little arrow on the drivers' board (or whatever that is called in english) that indicates the amount of gas you have left in the tank. This helps tremendously with that problem.

Cell phones are necessary because people don't stop anymore when they see people waving on the side of the road.
:(

[Yegolev]

There is this little arrow on the drivers' board (or whatever that is called in english) that indicates the amount of gas you have left in the tank. This helps tremendously with that problem.

Helps only if it works.  Mine was perpetually stuck at 1/4 all the time.  Considering that, I think I was doing a great job to drive that car from Alabama to Pittsburgh to Manhattan to Pittsburgh again, and only run out of gas once.  I have lots of funny stories from that trip, mostly involving Killjoy or us almost dying.

Edit to say, perhaps you have never been to West Virginia.  Imagine a state which has no flat land and three gas stations.  A miscalculation on my part, yes.  By that time, I knew approximately how many miles I could drive before I needed gas, using the odometer as a fuel gauge.  Still, sometimes you roll snake-eyes.

[Strazos]

West Virginia? lol...are you still in too much pain to sit down?

[Merusk]

I'm with Snake on the Cell phone bit.  I have one for my wife, and it has prepaid minutes because it is ONLY for emergenices.  I'll own one when the company I work for buys it and tells me to use it.

On the MP3 player, tho, I have one because I hate the radio.  Despise it, and I like having music while I work.  It keeps me more focused to be in 'my own little world' and drown out the usual office white noise - chatter, clacking keyboards, phones, etc.  Nothing to do with ADD, everything to do with making the working environment a bit more pleasant.

What do you do, Snake? Sit around listening to the office around you all day? That'd drive me batty.

[Yegolev]

No more scars, that was eleven years ago.  I did go to WV last year, but I went directly to the ski resort.

Re: Merusk, my company does require me to have a phone-- nay, a Blackberry, and they do pay for it.  But even so, my wife needs some method of yelling at me remotely.  I could do without it.

One thing to improve the workplace is to unscrew the fluorescent lights above you; use an incandescent lamp instead.  Try it.

[shiznitz]

I did go to WV last year, but I went directly to the ski resort.

The fuck?

[Yegolev]

I did go to WV last year, but I went directly to the ski resort.

The fuck?

Cheaper and closer than Colorado.  Besides, I know someone who works there.

[raydeen]

I must be one of the few people on earth that does not own an MP3 player, does not care to own an MP3 player, and will probably NEVER own an MP3 player.

You and me both. I have no time to listen to music other than riding in the car. I have CDs and the radio for that. Can't listen to an MP3 player at work and I'm usually working on computers or watching TV at home. And if I'm on the comp, I have music there (though I'm usually on WoW or CoH so no time for music there either). I have an HP iPaq that I could load mp3'w on but I've never really done it. Just don't have the time or inclination.

[Tebonas]

I ride my bike for two hours every day. my MP3-Player is absolutely needed, lest I fall asleep during my tour. There are only so many roads you can bike through in an one hour radius around your home, and after years each and every one of them is boring to look at.

[Morfiend]

I could live without an MP3 player or a cell phone, but you'll pry my Tivo from my cold dead hands.

/agree 100%.

I also was dead before TiVo. Now I am alive.

As to cell phones, I think they are kind of like TiVo in that you dont know what your missing until you have one. I got lost one time looking for an off campus class, and drove around for 45 mminutes, and ended up being way late. During the time driving around I swore I would go out the next day and buy a cell. I did.

Now I dont even bother having a land line phone.

[squirrel]

Even if you don't need to be 'entertained' while walking, you don't see the need for a cell phone if your car breaks down? For an "mp3" player so you don't need to lug around a thousand cds?

Must be everyone else's ADD, you smug, pompous ass. You hate freedom.

Weren't you fine before without a cel phone?

People have been conditioned to thinking they *need* cel phones.  That they *need* mp3 players.  Why do I or you *need* to lug around thousands of CDs? 

Guess what?  You don't.

What did you do before mp3 players?  How did you ever survive?  Could you walk from point a to point b without HAVING to listen to music or be entertained?  Could you not quietly sit still for 5 minutes? An hour? 

You're a demokrat, aren't you?

No offense personally but based on this post i can only conclude that you're an idiot. And possibly a luddite. Do people need cars? After all for thousands of years we did without them. Refridgeration? Overated. Central heating? For the lazy.

Are you Amish?

EDIT: And for the record - i don't even have a land line anymore. Between my cell and Skype i don't see a need for traditional copper wire phones. Guess I'm just a victim of corporate conditioning  . BTW I posted this from my Treo while killing time while I wait to pick someone up at the airport.

[Merusk]

Re: Merusk, my company does require me to have a phone-- nay, a Blackberry, and they do pay for it.  But even so, my wife needs some method of yelling at me remotely.  I could do without it.

Precisely the reason I don't own one.  I talk to about 4 people on the phone in total.  They understand the "don't call me at work unless it's an emergency." nature of a business line.  However, from observing everyone else in the office, (and other offices) no cell phone user's friends/ family seem to understand, "Don't call me at work" means on the cell either.   There's someone about to be fired for this exact problem.

One thing to improve the workplace is to unscrew the fluorescent lights above you; use an incandescent lamp instead.  Try it.

Love to, but a cubicle environment means you suffer at the prejudices of upper management.  In a private business, "upper management" is the owner's wife.  She goes around making certain things are on and screwed-in.  At least we got them to put pericubes (the little silver grids) in the lights so there's no screen glare, and they're using warm bulbs vs cool.

[Yegolev]

Sucks about the lights.  Massive corporations do have their plusses.  Our facilities guys, if you tell them that you purposely unscrewed the lights the first thing that pops into their heads is that they can ignore that fixture.  Not that they usually come out of their holes unless you call.

I only need to talk to two non-corporate people: my wife and Killjoy.  Normally Killjoy is just calling because he can't boot up WoW, or he hurt himself in an amusing way again.  I'm not really a Luddite, I just don't want to hear the jibba-jabba.  I'd force all conversations into a text client if I could.