complex fittings

[dwindlehop]

I can't do L3 missions yet but I desperately want to shoot things with my Tempest other than belt rats. I figure I will give a lowsec 5/10 Angel plex a try. It's not a plex our alliance claims AFAIK, so I'm fitting PvP mods. I had to make some compromises due to a lack of grid and CPU, notably the dual 425 and the thermic plating. AWU and Elec V would help, but I'm not there yet.

What cap charge do you recommend? I've never cap boosted before. I was thinking 800s and just never using them unless I got into trouble, since I can't carry around very many. I can almost sustain one rep with both nos going. With the booster and nos going I'd be able to sustain everything as long as I had charges.

The damage is low, but I have just one level of large proj turrets right now, and some gunnery skills I can take to iV relatively quickly. I could scrap some or all of the webifier drones and load combat drones to pump up the dps. My thought was the webifier drones will allow me to dictate range or actually hit a frig (with the webifier mod) as the situation warrants. I'm not fast with the AB on and I don't want to spend forever trying to chase after someone running away from me, or let close range BSs get within optimal.

I'm kinda worried about running out of ammo. Perhaps 1400s would be better, with no PvP mods and a willingness to flee at the first sign of trouble? I don't have any 1400s named or otherwise, unfortunately.

Named items I need: scouts, webifier, reps, booster. 2 more 650 scouts is easy, but 3 more won't fit without Elec V or a better named hardener. Mechanic V will not help until I get some 425 scouts or AWU. With 425 scouts I could get both the T2 reps and a thermic hardener on there, so that's kinda attractive. I need to look around for named 425s.

Tempest

Heavy Nosferatu I
Heavy Nosferatu I
Dual 650mm Gallium I Repeating Cannon [106xFusion L]
Dual 650mm Carbine Repeating Howitzer I [106xFusion L]
Dual 650mm Carbine Repeating Howitzer I [106xFusion L]
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [106xFusion L]
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [106xFusion L]
Dual 425mm Carbine Repeating Cannon I [133xFusion L]

Stasis Webifier I
Warp Disruptor I
100MN Afterburner I
Heavy Capacitor Booster I
ECM - Multispectral Jammer I

Large Armor Repairer I
Large Armor Repairer I
Radioisotope Explosive Hardener I
Radioisotope Kinetic Hardener I
Thermic Plating I
Armor Explosive Hardener I

Berserker SW-900
Berserker SW-900
Berserker SW-900

6119 shield, 9.56/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/40/60
5962 armor, E/T/K/Ex=70/48/62/74
4887.5 cap, +16.2/s, -95.031/s
350.18360655737706 m/s
137.9 DPS

[Roac]

If your skills for PvP are that weak (not trying to be offensive, mine are not far off), you are better suited to not attempt to engage PvP whatsoever.  Gear for PvE, keep yourself aligned and at speed, and jump when anyone shows up on overview.  They will have their fittings down, they will have a few million sp over you in combat, and this will not have been their first go at it.

[dwindlehop]

So I was implicitly assuming that the only people I encounter would be people trying to run the complex who were themselves fitted out for running the complex. It is tough to speculate when neither one of us has been there.

I guess I could drop the warp disruptor and multispec, get a thermal hardener and add a cap recharger or targeting computer, but it wouldn't change my fitting overmuch. I don't think I want a shield tank unless I'm arty. Guess I need to see if I can pick up some 1400s or 425s.

[dwindlehop]

The good news is that the Gistum stuff won't drop from a 5/10 Angel Complex, so they're probably not farmed out the ying-yang!

From: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=355540

Gist = Bs Sized Angel Complex Loot
Gist-c Drops from the 7/10 Angels Plex
Gist-b Drops from the 8/10 Angels Plex
Gist-a Doesnt exist no 9/10
Gist-x Drops From the Angel 10/10

Gistum = Cruiser Sized Angel Complex Loot
Gistum-c Doesn't Exist no Angel 4/10
Gistum-b should drop from the Angel 5/10 but the loot tables are broken
Gistum-a Doesn't Exist no Angel 6/10

Gistii = Frig Sized Angel Complex Loot
Gistii-c Doesn't Exist no Angel 1/10
Gistii-b Should drop from the 2/10 but the loot tables are broken
Gistii-a Drops from the serpentis 3/10(go figure)


Cent = Sanshas Complex Loot
Centus = Sanshas BS Sized Complex Loot
Centus-c Doesnt exist no 7/10
Centus-b Doesnt exist no 8/10
Centus-a Doesnt exist no 9/10
Centus-x Drops from Sanshas 10/10

Centum = Sanshas Cruiser Sized Complex Loot
Centum-c Should drop from 4/10 but doesnt due to broken loot tables
Centum-b Doesnt exist no 5/10
Centum-a Drops from Sanshas 6/10

Centii = Sanshas Frig Sized Complex Loot
Centii-c Should drop from 1/10 but dosent due to broken loot table
Centii-b Doesnt exist no 2/10
Centii-a Should drop from 3/10 but doesnt due to broken loot table

Corp = Blood Raiders Complex Loot
Corpus = Blood Raider BS Sized Complex Loot
Corpus loot doesnt exist due to lack of 7/10-10/10 Blood complexes.

Corpum = Blood Raider Cruiser Sized Loot
Coupum-c Doesnt exist no 4/10
Corpum-b Doesnt exist no 5/10
Corpum-a Drops from 6/10 Blood Complex

Corpii = Blood Raider Cruiser Sized Loot
Corpii loot doesnt exist due to lack of 1/10-3/10 Blood complexes.


Core = Serpentis Complex Loot
Core = Serpentis BS Sized Complex Loot
Core-c Doesnt exist no 7/10
Core-b Doesnt exist no 8/10
Core-a Doesnt exist no 9/10
Core-x Drops from Serpentis 10/10

Corelum = Serpentis Cruiser Sized Complex Loot
Corelum-c Should drop from Serpentis 4/10 but doesnt due to broken loot table.
Corelum-b Doesnt exist no 5/10
Corelum-a Doesnt exist no 6/10

Corelli = Serpentis Frig Sized Complex Loot
Corelli-c Should drop from Serpentis 1/10 but doesnt due to broken loot table.
Corelli-b Doesnt exist no 2/10
Corelli-a Should drop from Serpentis 3/10 but that plex drops gistii-a instead.

Pith = Guristas Complex Loot
Pith = Guristas BS Sized Complex Loot
Pith-c Doesn exist no 7/10
Pith-b Drops from Guristas 8/10
Pith-a Doesnt Exist no 9/10
Pith-x Doesnt Exist no 10/10

Pithum = Guristas Cruiser Sized Complex Loot
Pithum-c Should drop from 4/10 but doesnt due to broken loot tables.
Pithum-b Doesnt exist no 5/10
Pithum-a Should drop from 6/10 but doesnt due to broken loot tables.

Pithii = Guristas Frig Sized Loot
Pithii-c Should drop from 1/10 but doesnt due to broken loot tables.
Pithii-b Should drop from 2/10 but doesnt due to broken loot tables.
Pithii-a Doesnt exist no 3/10

[Roac]

It is tough to speculate when neither one of us has been there.

I haven't done a 5/10 complex, but have been attacked twice in a 4/10 one.  That's not representative of course, and I have no idea what the area you're going to is like for that, but it can happen.

*shrugs*

[dwindlehop]

Hm, 4/10s don't drop expensive faction loot either. Did they come for you right after you went in? If you get past the first room you're safe from pvp until the key respawns, right?

[Roac]

First one I came across in the final room.  Looked like he was waiting for the overseer to respawn, and I've no idea how long he'd been there.  The second time I was caught at the key drop, he warped in after I did.  I'd just finished killing the spawn but hadn't seen the key, and saw him lock.  Figured I was just leaving anyway.