WSG question

[heck]

I've been hitting wsg alot lately to get some rank.  What's up with the teams being 10 on 10, 5 on 20, etc?  If there's going to be a random number of people on each team, why is there a queue in the first place?

The chatter in the raid channel is that it's a bug, or it depends on whether or not people join the queue while grouped, or sometimes people are ported in...I haven't been able to piece together the clues.  Once the battle starts it's way too chaotic to sit there and type nub questions.

[Merusk]

The battles start when the minimum number of people are there for each side.  It varies according to which battleground, and WSG is something like 6 people each. (If you've got 15 or 20 to a side in WSG, that IS a bug.)

   However, it can't control how quick people click the 'accept' button.  It gives you a full 2 mins to accept or deny the call to the battleground.  If you accept it while it's counting down those last 10 seconds, and it takes you a long time to zone, you'll be joining as the battle's underway.  Or, if someone ignores it and lets it run-down rather than leaving queue, the next guy is now 2min+ however long until he accepts behind the start time.   Then you get people who jump in and out of the BG if things turn against them, or if another queue they'd rather join-up pops (like AV).   So - for the Alliance at least - the sides really kind of waffle  a lot, particularly if they're getting steamrolled.

[Strazos]

I would just like to throw in that it's pretty sad when I can stomp people in the 30-39 WSG at 30.

[heck]

The battles start when the minimum number of people are there for each side.  It varies according to which battleground, and WSG is something like 6 people each. (If you've got 15 or 20 to a side in WSG, that IS a bug.)

   However, it can't control how quick people click the 'accept' button.  It gives you a full 2 mins to accept or deny the call to the battleground.  If you accept it while it's counting down those last 10 seconds, and it takes you a long time to zone, you'll be joining as the battle's underway.  Or, if someone ignores it and lets it run-down rather than leaving queue, the next guy is now 2min+ however long until he accepts behind the start time.   Then you get people who jump in and out of the BG if things turn against them, or if another queue they'd rather join-up pops (like AV).   So - for the Alliance at least - the sides really kind of waffle  a lot, particularly if they're getting steamrolled.

Strange. 

WSG is a tossup clusterfuck half the time anyway, and an organized group could easily take out a larger group, but one would still think there would be fixes by now to keep the numbers even.  Does this happen in other bgs too?

[Rasix]

Does this happen in other bgs too?

The uneven numbers thing? Yes.

[cevik]

There is also a bug right now that I haven't quite figured out, but when it happens one side steals slots from the other.

We've had several AB games that were 13 horde to 17 alliance, instead of the 15 to 15 that it's supposed to be.

But wsg is meant to be 10 to 10.  It waits for 10 people to join on each side (that's the queue thing) but a lot of times, when the queues are long, people don't click on the "Enter Battle" button and screw you over.  Occasionally when they do that there is no one else in queue behind them, so you get stuck down a person.  If there are at least 6 on each side, the full game happens, otherwise the game gets aborted in 5 mins.  This happens a lot more at 10-59 than it does at 60.

[heck]

There is also a bug right now that I haven't quite figured out, but when it happens one side steals slots from the other.

We've had several AB games that were 13 horde to 17 alliance, instead of the 15 to 15 that it's supposed to be.

But wsg is meant to be 10 to 10.  It waits for 10 people to join on each side (that's the queue thing) but a lot of times, when the queues are long, people don't click on the "Enter Battle" button and screw you over.  Occasionally when they do that there is no one else in queue behind them, so you get stuck down a person.  If there are at least 6 on each side, the full game happens, otherwise the game gets aborted in 5 mins.  This happens a lot more at 10-59 than it does at 60.

Man. 

So yea, the final wsg I was in last night was 10 alliance on our 6.  I noticed someone dropped about 4 minutes into the battle, then someone else was brought in.  Which reminds me of another thing: you can get accepted into battles that are in progress.  Maybe there are glitches in that part of the process that are allowing other weird things to happen.

[fatboy]

I just recently started doing the "WSG thing."  Typically, I play once and then leave.

But last night, we won really fast, so I was going to do another one, so at the score screen, I did click Leave Battlefield, but I did not leave the raid group thinking this would keep me queued up for the next battle start.

This did not happen. 

How do I continue to the next battle after one is done in WSG?

[Endie]

But last night, we won really fast, so I was going to do another one, so at the score screen, I did click Leave Battlefield, but I did not leave the raid group thinking this would keep me queued up for the next battle start.

This did not happen. 

How do I continue to the next battle after one is done in WSG?

Sometimes, after you beat them up, the alliance get demoralised and don't come back.  This happens most often from 11.30 onwards.  Sometimes you have to throw them a bone and let them capture one flag.  Nyuck...

More helpfully, unless I am in a really good group, I tend to leave the group and just sign up individually for a battle.  Otherwise, I think you are depending on the raid leader doing it.

As horde on Moonglade, as on so many servers, if it is 10 v 10 (particularly on the lower levels)

[Warryyr]

I just recently started doing the "WSG thing."  Typically, I play once and then leave.

But last night, we won really fast, so I was going to do another one, so at the score screen, I did click Leave Battlefield, but I did not leave the raid group thinking this would keep me queued up for the next battle start.

This did not happen. 

How do I continue to the next battle after one is done in WSG?

You'll end up outside where you signed up for the battleground (or wherever the leader signed up).  There's a guy nearby you can talk to, to sign up again for WSG.  In Orgrimmar it's in the Valley of Honor, upper right corner of map in a big hut.  Not sure about Alliance. 

The only time you'll get requeued into WSG by staying in a group is if the party leader says they're going to sign up the group again - and if they do, you'll see a red button appear on your mini-map and you'll hear a clunking sound until you get in the battleground. 

Party leaders can queue their whole group in the battleground, you just have to push a different button when getting in the queue.  It's the one greyed out when you're not in a group, and you queue up.

[fatboy]

Thanks for the replies, Warryyr and Endie.

Yes, that is exactly what happened.....I ended up in Thunder Bluff right in front of the Battlemaster -- I was still in the raid group, but I was NOT in the queue for WSG anymore.

At that point....I was unsure of what to do so I ended up leaving the raid.

So basically...all I had to do was requeue WSG and stay in the raid and all would have been golden, I guess.