God help me. Third time's the charm?

[Thrawn]

If I'm coming across as "haha your all stupid for liking EVE" I apologize, because that's not what I'm trying to do. I just want to yap about mechanics, and why so many of us find EVE's so boring and detached.

It's more the fact of how frequently these threads/posts come up.  Most of them come across like they think they are the first person ever to see flaws in EvE and by pointing them out all of us playing will see the light and go play WoW or something inatead. 

[Slayerik]

Yes, my character is a bad ass.

You could still do ECM, tackling, DPS in a short time and have that trained without logging in except to switch skills.

I understand your point. I still think it's shit :)




And yes, all the Eve haters, the game sucks. Move along. Nothing to see or enjoy here.

[Big Gulp]

And yes, all the Eve haters, the game sucks. Move along. Nothing to see or enjoy here.

Done and done.  The best I can come up with for EVE players is to compare you to WWII Online players.  If you enjoy either game your opinions on what makes a game "fun" are definitely suspect.  In any case, I'm done with the EVE boards and will stick to trolling Endies' recruitment threads.  No reason I shouldn't warn off other players.  I consider it a public service.

[Sparky]

You should make some charts.

[Slayerik]

And yes, all the Eve haters, the game sucks. Move along. Nothing to see or enjoy here.

Done and done.  The best I can come up with for EVE players is to compare you to WWII Online players.  If you enjoy either game your opinions on what makes a game "fun" are definitely suspect.  In any case, I'm done with the EVE boards and will stick to trolling Endies' recruitment threads.  No reason I shouldn't warn off other players.  I consider it a public service.

And we will be there, every step of the way fighting your evil crusade. :) Peace out Gulp.

[Roentgen]

And yes, all the Eve haters, the game sucks. Move along. Nothing to see or enjoy here.

Done and done.  The best I can come up with for EVE players is to compare you to WWII Online players.  If you enjoy either game your opinions on what makes a game "fun" are definitely suspect.  In any case, I'm done with the EVE boards and will stick to trolling Endies' recruitment threads.  No reason I shouldn't warn off other players.  I consider it a public service.

Dude, I probably have a total of 4 or 5 years total of subscription time in WWIIOL!  That game is sweet.  I know I'm not helping.

[Amarr HM]

Eve sucks ass everybody come play Quake-wars.

[eldaec]

Slay, how long did it take you train all the skills for that kind of versatility? Probably a investment in time and effort not unlike the folks who have multiple alts in a WoW style game. Probably far more investment then the versatility provided in a Guild Wars type of game. <Insert Slay's quote here with Druid Class/specs in place of EVE Ship types>

Far less I'd say, but that is beside the point, the point is really that you are useful along the way. You are playing the same game as the vets.

The system isn't perfect, it does still have too many poorly designed newbie skills (learning, fitting etc), and the idiotic designers do keep adding top end linear progress (caps, t3 etc) instead of more variety for the main game. But you are flying in the main fleet doing something useful on the equivalent of a top end raid within weeks, not months, then every month or two you are adding a new role you can play in the fleet or in the industrial system.