Gamer me in PSX retro land

[Sairon]

Last week I gave Suikoden 2 a whirl, damn was it good, I really liked Suikoden 1 but missed Suikoden 2 back in the days.

Anyways, on the menu for this week is Alundra. I owned this game back in the day and had fond memories of it. I know I never finished it and found it to be very hard back in the days, even if I recall finding it very enjoyable. This turned out to be a real gem as well, it's like The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past with an interesting story, harder puzzles, arguably better music, and a small dose of platforming. Overall I'd rank it as a straight up better game than The Legend of Zelda: A link to the Past, even if I find that one to be the best in the entire Zelda series.

Would be neat to have some retro discussion on the PSX days. I was afraid that the games wouldn't have aged very well, but I'm happy to say that both of these 2 haven't lost a thing and rank somewhere at the top of best games I've played for years. I'm going to be bold and say that PSX probably have better RPGs than the SNES.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Yeah I love my PSX. I still have all my games for that SOB. Alundra was in fact awesome as hell. You need to track down a copy of silent bomber...that was a really good game that got no play whatsoever...

[Oz]

two greatest PSX games (imho):

Einhander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einh%C3%A4nder

and

Bushido Blade (only the 1st one)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido_Blade_%28video_game%29

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Yea, Bushido Blade was fun if you had someone who wanted to get good at it, but it wasn't a particularly deep or balanced  fighter. I actually liked R-Type Delta more than Einhander, although Einhander was really good.

[Merusk]

Where'd you find Suikoden 2 at?  I kept hearing about that game over and over and I could never find the damn thing.

Busido Blade roxorz if you like fighters but aren't terribly fond of the Hitpoint/ energy bars and supercombos of more modern games. 

[Oz]

i just remember playing bushido blade with a couple friends were we would do best out of 100 matches.  got to the point where we would spend more time standing waiting for the other guy to make a wrong move then actually mashing buttons.  felt very much like an old kurasawa film.  but yeah the game isn't much fun without the friends to play "samurai" with.

[WindupAtheist]

Bushido Blade was pure win.  I'm sure it wasn't balanced in the way "Street Fighter 2 iteration #4398 with differences only semiprofessional gamers in Southeast Asian video arcades will even notice" would be, but it was just fucking cool.  The first time I stabbed a guy in the neck and he just fell over dead on the first blow was a revelation.

[SurfD]

Where'd you find Suikoden 2 at?  I kept hearing about that game over and over and I could never find the damn thing.

Busido Blade roxorz if you like fighters but aren't terribly fond of the Hitpoint/ energy bars and supercombos of more modern games. 

Either he was REALLY lucky and found some idiot at a used game store who was selling it for cheap, or he mortgaged his soul for it over ebay.  I have only seen a used copy of it once, and that was for something like $250

[Azazel]

Or he found an appropriate CDR.

[Sairon]

Where'd you find Suikoden 2 at?  I kept hearing about that game over and over and I could never find the damn thing.

Lets just say that I had problems tracking it down as well, and that there's a certain program which lets you play back ups in very much the same way the majority of you probably have tried playing back up SNES games on your computer back in the days :P .

Imagine this, all the games to the PSX which was above decent on PSN for $10 a piece with awesome up scaling on your PS3 + 1 achievement per game when you finish them, instant win? The only problem I see is working out all the licensing issues, but I don't see why any company wouldn't like the possibility to earn some $$$.

[ahoythematey]

Wouldn't be so problematic to play Suikoden 2 if Sony/Konami weren't being enormous fuckheads by not localising the Suikoden 1+2 pack they have from the PSP, or for that matter releasing either them on more than just the japanese PSN.  Fucking cocksuckers.

I'd say check out Jumping Flash 2 and Brave Fencer Musashiden.  I always thought Vandal Hearts was pretty fun, but I'm sure it hasn't aged well at all.  If you can, check out Grandia.  Probably one of the best used-game finds I ever made.

[Merusk]

OOoh, yeah Brave Fencer Musashi (the Americanized version.)  That was a good game, I wish I'd finished it but then FFX came out...

[Azazel]

Jumping Flash 2 was a great game. Finished that one.

[schild]

Azure Dreams
Brave Fencer Musashi
Bushido Blade
Bushido Blade
Carnage Heart
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Colony Wars
Deception III: Dark Delusion
Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
Discworld
Fade to Black
Fear Effect
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Front Mission 1st
Front Mission 2
Front Mission 3
Grandia
Gran Turismo
Gunpey
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
Heart of Darkness
Intelligent Qube
Kartia
Koudelka
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue COmplete
Magic Carpet
Mega Man Legends
Metal Gear Solid
NBA Jam Tournament Edition
The Neverhood
Ogre Battle
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve II
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Policenauts
Populous: The Beginning
Psychic Detective
R-Types
Rage Racer
Resident Evil: Director's Cut
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Ridge Racer
Shin Megami Tensei
Silent Hill
SimCity 2000
Soul Blade
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels
Suikoden II
Tactics Ogre
Thousand Arms
Threads of Fate
Torneko: The Last Hope
Twisted Metal
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Vandal Hearts
Vib Ribbon
Wipeout
X-COM: UFO Defense
Xenogears

[MisterNoisy]

Brave Fencer Musashi
Bushido Blade
Bushido Blade
Carnage Heart

Two copies of BB?  :P  The second was complete shit and quite possibly the most disappointing sequel ever.

[schild]

Meant to take one off. :(

[ahoythematey]

Forgot about Fade to Black.  That was one of the first psx games I bought and I still remember being frustrated with some of the deaths in it.

Poy Poy is a must if you can get your multiplayer on.

[raydeen]

Colony Wars. All of them.
Disrupter.
Brave Fencer Musashi.
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Chronicles.
Bloody Roar I and II.
Dead or Alive.
Tekken 2 and 3.
Toshinden 2.
Chocobo's Dungeon 2
Ghost in the Shell.
Soul Blade
Rival Schools.
Elemental Gearbolt.
Evil Zone.
Vampire Hunter D.
Vs.

The wife's favorite is still Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo. Or as she likes to refer to it, 'Puzzy'.

I have others but the above are the favs.

[schild]

I'd really recommend you track down Torneko and forget about Chocobo's Dungeon forever.

[ahoythematey]

For the Colony Wars games, make sure you like hard games before commiting to Colony Wars: Vengeance.  Very fun, but very hard.

[Sairon]

Wow, large list schild. Anything in particular in that list which stands out from the rest?

[schild]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Symphony of the Night
FF7
FFT
Bushido Blade
Intelligent Qube
Mega Man Legends
Parasite Eve
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
R-Types
Rhapsody
Ridge Racer
Silent Hill
Torneko
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Xenogears

As far as American things go at least.

[Sairon]

Ok, cool, I've already played a few of those, and those I found great back in the days.

[Velorath]

Not sure how well Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain has aged, but Parappa the Rapper is still entertaining.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

All-star Slammin D-ball
Alundra
Alundra 2
Ape Escape
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
Brave Fencer Musashi
Builder's Block
Bushido Blade
Bust a Groove
Bust-A-Move 2
Bust-A-Move 4
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Cyberbots: Full Metal Madness
Darius Gaiden
Deception    
Kagero: Deception 2      
Deception III: Dark Delusion
Destrega
Devil Dice
Dino Crisis
Dino Crisis 2
Dirt Jockey
Dragon Valor
Einhänder
Expendable
Harmful Park
Incredible Crisis
Intelligent Qube
Irritating Stick ( this is actually a really fun party/drinking game)
Jackie Chan Stuntmaster(pretty decent beat-em-up...really)
jumping flash
jumping flash 2
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
Koudelka
Loaded
re-loaded
The Misadventures of Tron Bonne
No one can Stop Mr. Domino
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus    
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Omega Boost
One
One Piece Mansion
PaRappa the Rapper
Pocket Fighter
Point Blank        
Point Blank 2       
Point Blank 3 (if you can only own 2 light gun games in your entire life. This and house of the dead 2. I own 3 copies of this fucking game. Best light gun game ever fucking made.)
Power Shovel (don't talk shit, this game is mad amounts of fun)
Project Overkill
Puzzle Star Sweep (decent budget puzzle game)
R-Types
R-Type Delta
Raiden Project
Ray Crisis
RayStorm
Resident Evil: Director's Cut
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman (love mutha-fucking bubbles for this game...)
Rival Schools ( you have to own this game. Ask Schild. Must to be with the owning...)
Robotron X (twitchy as hell, pretty damn fun)
RPG Maker (dated as hell, but at the time me and my buddies had TOO much fun with this. )
Shooter: Space Shot ( alright for a budget shooter, had some decent ideas... only if you are collecting shooters for the psx)
Shooter: Starfight Sanvein (weird as hell, pretty damn well done, more innovative and stylish than and budget game has any right to be)
Silent Bomber ( please fucking play this)
Silhouette Mirage
Sol Divide (budget shooter by psikyo!)
Street Fighter EX plus Alpha
Street Fighter EX 2Plus
Tecmo Stackers
Tekken 3
Tenchu 2: Birth of the Stealth Assassins (2 words...Level builder)
Tetris Plus
Thrasher: Skate and Destroy (i liked this a lot... A lot.)
Thunder Force V (Love bubbles...)
tomba
tomba 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (THPS2 NEVER DIE!)
Trap Gunner ( one day I will meet someone else who got good at this...Too damn fun. I remember when Atlus released released stuff other than RPG's)
UmJammer Lammy
Vagrant Story ( probably the best thing Square has ever done in my opinion. )
Valkyrie Profile
Wild Arms
WipEout XL
X-Men: Mutant Academy          
X-Men: Mutant Academy 2 (both fun for their time)
Xenogears
Zoop ( I love this game. Puzzle plus lounge music FTMFW)

[schild]

Rival Schools should be played on a Dreamcast, sorry. Same with THPS2.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Naw, rival schools ont he DC vs the psx was way different. Project Justice was a sequel and played differently. Rival Schools was just way too damn good. And THPS2 on the DC was good, but I would rather play the PSX version. controller was better and it was tourney standard.