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Reply #140 on: March 03, 2008, 11:09:10 AM

And then goes and fucks it up by refusing the girl, which I totally don't get at all. Because as Billy Idol says, there's nothing pure in this world.. he should have totally gone for it :)

He didn't want her to end up all fucked up and jaded like he was.  I think you know this already. 

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Reply #141 on: March 03, 2008, 01:46:54 PM

Bhodi only sleeps with virgins?
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Reply #142 on: March 03, 2008, 02:20:19 PM

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Reply #143 on: March 03, 2008, 06:11:49 PM

Well, you have to admit that there is something very comical about a naked man walking around with an erection.  I never look because then I can't stop laughing. 

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Reply #144 on: March 04, 2008, 04:58:48 AM

Part of the reason I didin't like American Beauty much was because everything I heard about the movie conflicted with the movie I actually saw.  I kept reading people say it was such a beautiful movie when I thought it was one of the ugliest things I have ever saw.  Spacey's character is the only character somewhat sympathetic but as cool as his mid-life crisis was his whole motivation for change was because he wanted to screw his daughters (underage) friend.  The wife is one of the most repugnant characters in a movie, ever, and the kids are all self-absorbed shits.  I was sure the title was ironic and the movie was about how ugly the modern selfish lifestyle is but I kept seeing comments like 'beautiful and moving'.  It conflicted my brain so I just dismissed the movie and moved on.
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Reply #145 on: March 04, 2008, 05:56:40 AM

He didn't want her to end up all fucked up and jaded like he was.  I think you know this already. 
Consensual sex doesn't make you fucked up and jaded unless you are already completely twisted. it's a wonderful experience. If she was supposed to be 16, she sure as hell didn't look it. I'm sure the actress wasn't.

I feel that him turning her down wasn't touching, it was a total failure of his his rejection of the self-absorbed society and the basis of his entire mid life crisis. It was the final test and the achievement of his goal.

In the end, he couldn't completely escape, and it killed him.
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Reply #146 on: March 04, 2008, 07:19:45 AM

I feel that him turning her down wasn't touching, it was a total failure of his his rejection of the self-absorbed society and the basis of his entire mid life crisis. It was the final test and the achievement of his goal.
To sleep with the girl was to get out of one trap (minless conformation with society) just to fall into another trap (mindless presuit of self-gratifacation.) 

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Reply #147 on: March 04, 2008, 07:43:22 AM

Yeah, but which of those is more fun?

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Reply #148 on: March 04, 2008, 08:08:27 AM

To sleep with the girl was to get out of one trap (minless conformation with society) just to fall into another trap (mindless presuit of self-gratifacation.) 
If you look at it that way, you can't win no matter WHAT you do. Also, I suppose it does depend on what you mean by mindless. It's really not precise enough.

Many of the characters were unhappy because they did what society said was right, and not what was good for them or what would make them happy. They stayed in broken marriages, denied their sexuality, all because of the pressure of society on the individual. That pressure goes for sex, too.
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Reply #149 on: March 04, 2008, 08:36:21 AM

Why did this turn into an American Beauty thread instead of a movies you like thread? American Beauty was a polarizing film that I personally didn't care for much.

Can't we go back to things we actually enjoyed and/or movies that got screwed.

I liked JAWS, which I think got screwed.

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Reply #150 on: March 04, 2008, 09:09:37 AM

I watched Jaws at way too young an age. Swimming as a kid after watching that movie was terrifying- and I swam mostly in lakes. I'd go under water and imagine being swallowed by a great white. Terrifying, but fun.  smiley

As much as I love One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Jaws is the better picture.

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Reply #151 on: March 04, 2008, 09:27:27 AM

Consensual sex doesn't make you fucked up and jaded unless you are already completely twisted. it's a wonderful experience.

That statement could have come straight from the NAMBLA website.  Just saying.
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Reply #152 on: March 04, 2008, 09:44:10 AM

He did the right thing by not sleeping with her after spending the movie flaunting normal behavior. His reward was death which was just escape. I could almost call it a happy ending for him.

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Reply #153 on: March 05, 2008, 07:18:30 AM

Consensual sex doesn't make you fucked up and jaded unless you are already completely twisted. it's a wonderful experience.

That statement could have come straight from the NAMBLA website.  Just saying.
Reading it again, that came off kind of ...  this guy looks legit didn't it? I didn't mean it like that.
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