Rerolling Horde

[Merusk]

Ok, so I'm bored with Alliance  Got my 3rd Alliance 70 and while I enjoy the PvP with the Pally and I enjoy raiding on my hunter, I fucking hate Alliance.  I noticed I was making more snarky comments about "ramboing", "feeding the meat grinder" and not staying together over the last few nights than I was actually fighting/ healing.  As a result I've decided to reroll horde.  I've played with them here and there over the years, but never really gotten past 30.  Part of this is isolation, as it's the people that keep you attached and the friends I had who were horde have stopped playing in favor of LOTR.    (They're big Tolkien geeks.)

So, I need you hordies to give me a decent server to check-out.  Maybe I'll even join your guild and subject you to my ego, who knows.

[Chimpy]

I hear good things about Bael'Gun hordeside from a lot of my old friends on Garona horde (many of them took the free transfers to Bael'gun when they were available but have since transferred back some of their toons to Garona).

If I still was playing horde I would say try Garona out, but I know Garona has turned into a backwater. But there are a number of more mature, laid back folks who still play there so it might be a decent place to level. I will probably be heading back over there in the next couple of weeks to level my orc hunter up to 70 and give my old buddies grief on the weekends. I left garona and horde in general to raid with friends on alliance on Eldre'Thalas, and have only been playing again at all for about a month since quitting entirely in November.

[Oban]

Odd, I was thinking about subscribing again and rolling a hot blood elf rogue or mage.  

Any suggestions from the masses?  I have already spent about ten minutes going through the guild recruitment forum on the official site.  While there are some reroll horde guilds forming at the moment, they are either late night or have really obnoxious names.

Edit--  PVP please.

[Chenghiz]

I can't really suggest any servers for you but congratulations.

[Jobu]

Just don't make a Blood Elf, please. We don't need anymore manginas to remind us of how cool things used to be before we got stinking elves.

[Jayce]

Tichondrius is not for you.


Unless it is.


(Morphiend, me and SurfD are all on Tich.  It's not bad).

[Nebu]

Just paint your monitor screen brown.  Clean it off after about 2 weeks.  That was my experience with playing horde. 

Ok... I'll be nice.  I think it would be interesting with all of your experience to see what the game looks like from the other side.  Particularly if you were someone that liked to pvp a lot.  I know that in several games, the endgame was quite different in one faction over another.  With the homology in WoW, I'm not sure you'll notice this as much. 

[caladein]

I'm on Wildhammer and it's a PvE backwater (first Archimonde kill was last week). The world PvP stuff is pretty much Horde-dominated after a ton of drama leading to transfers on Alliance.

[Merusk]

Just don't make a Blood Elf, please. We don't need anymore manginas to remind us of how cool things used to be before we got stinking elves.

Well I've little choice as a pally, now do I?   :-D

Were I to roll a different class, it wouldn't be a BE, though, so set yourself at-ease there.

I've considered Tich, but you all are PST players, if I recall, and I've tried to do that before.  Several times, in fact.   It leaves me sitting on the sidelines thinking 'well I should have learned after the last 2 times I tried to play with PST/ MTN folks... "

[Ralence]

While there are some reroll horde guilds forming at the moment, they are either late night or have really obnoxious names.

  I'd actually suggest doing this if you can, finding people to level up with is a huge challenge on the three servers I've played on recently, or at least find a few folks that will start with you, so you have some sort of connection.  I finally talked my brother into playing again so that I could find a tank for instances (I'm not joking).  The current environment looks like this; Warlock, Warlock, Warlock, Warlock, Mage, Warlock, Mage, Warlock.  In fact, last week I did a "who warlock" in the Blood Elf starting zone, and there were something like 65 of them under level 10.
  The real joy is trying to do battlegrounds as a healer, my group from WSG at 49 last night had Priest(Me), Warlock, Warlock, Warlock, Mage.  Not once did I even get a rogue, nevermind a real tank class after 4 different runs though AB/WSG during primetime.  This is all on the Horde side, I can't speak for Alliance.

  Soloing is just ridiculously boring, for me at least, but if that's your thing it won't matter much.

  Or you could always roll up a prot pally and group your way from 19->70 with no problems at all.  There's a severe shortage of tank/healers, at least on the two servers I play on (Mug'Thol-PvP, Aerie Peak-PvE)

[Arrrgh]

12 of the top 20 5v5 teams in my BG are alliance.  From the "ramboing", "feeding the meat grinder" and not staying together" remarks it sounds like you're doing BG PuGs.  Have you tried an arena team?

[Merusk]

12 of the top 20 5v5 teams in my BG are alliance.  From the "ramboing", "feeding the meat grinder" and not staying together" remarks it sounds like you're doing BG PuGs.  Have you tried an arena team?

Yep and yep.  The dickholes in my guild stole all the healers from the guild arena team for their private team this week.   My pally alt is way undergeared to be the sole healer, plus we're down to 3 people now.  My guild is hardcore carebear, other than the 7 jackasses wanting the "welfare epics" who've excluded the other 3 of us because we won't run the lame "pvp for me" mods they use.

Yes, I'm bitter.

[caladein]

My guild is hardcore carebear, other than the 7 jackasses wanting the "welfare epics" who've excluded the other 3 of us because we won't run the lame "pvp for me" mods they use.

Like what? Proximo (or ArenaMaster or Gladiator) is pretty much a standard part of an Arena player's UI. I really couldn't see playing without it.

That's about all I could think of outside of say... some sort of enemy cooldown/buff tracker (like Natur EnemyCastBar or Antagonist), but that's another one of those standard-issue type of mods.

[Driakos]

Hellscream has a good horde population, and is CST.  Though the majority seem to be 70's like most servers, there's still a good chunk of all levels running about.  There's also a good mix of friends & family guilds, and diehard raiders.  I'm PST, so I can't raid with my guild as often as I'd like.  Onyxia [PVP] horde is pretty healthy. The alliance seem to have fled the server though, cept for <Smile> one of the higher rated US guilds.  Onyxia is PST though.  Strangely my friends that I play with on it, are EST.

[Jayce]

I've considered Tich, but you all are PST players, if I recall, and I've tried to do that before.  Several times, in fact.   It leaves me sitting on the sidelines thinking 'well I should have learned after the last 2 times I tried to play with PST/ MTN folks... "

Well, I'm EST, but that works in my favor since I can't really get started playing until 8-9pm my time, because of kids.  That lines up with my guild's starting raid times of 5-6 server.  Well, it would work out, if I raided. 

Either way, we're on the same schedule, in spite of the time shift.

[Calantus]

If you want an account with a 60 tauren female shaman and a 47 (i think? might be higher) tauren female druid let me know. It's not BC enabled and I don't care about it at all so if you'd actually use it you can have it free. It once had a 60 undead priest too but no longer. :P

EDIT: they're on a PVP server.

[Fordel]

The one thing that has always stopped me from leveling a Horde character is the AH. Horde AH's just suck. When the entirety of Plate Chest pieces from 40 to 70 doesn't take up even half a page... yea I'm going back to my alliance people. I'm to used to filling gear gaps with random AH stuff.


-edit- Typo

[Selby]

The one thing that has always stopped me from leveling a Horde character is the AH. Horde AH's just suck.

Maybe in the late game, but when you are a broke-ass n00b trying to level and make 110G for that first mount at 40, being able to corner the market on skinnables, herbs, and ore rules.  I rolled a priest on my old raiding server (Runetotem) and I'm now 28 and have 50G while not even really trying too hard.  The server I play alliance on I could barely make any cash selling herbs and leather (except for briarthorn for some reason).  I could always use my 61 as a pimp-daddy but that takes the fun out of it all.  I will concur that it seems like there is a healer\tank shortage among the Horde ranks for some reason.  Lots of mages and locks, no priests.

As far as my server goes, Horde has almost no newbs leveling anymore, so I go it solo almost 100% of the time.  Makes it easier to not have to stand around competing with the rest of the players for those handful of spawn points.  I get the other half to run me through the earlier instances because after having PUG'd RFC, WC, SFK, RFK, etc for years, it gets old doing it again.

[Fordel]

I will concur that it seems like there is a healer\tank shortage among the Horde ranks for some reason.  Lots of mages and locks, no priests.

As far as my server goes, Horde has almost no newbs leveling anymore, so I go it solo almost 100% of the time. 

Those two things are probably related. A self sustaining circle of suck.  :-(


As to selling things as a noob, I found my issue was the horde AH's could never keep up with my supply. People only seem to want to buy so many Red Linen Shirts :(

[Chimpy]

The server I play alliance on I could barely make any cash selling herbs and leather (except for briarthorn for some reason).

Briarthorn is used in Swiftness potions, among other random low level pots that people still use at top level. Thus the inflated prices for a weed that is simple to find.

[Arrrgh]

I will concur that it seems like there is a healer\tank shortage among the Horde ranks for some reason.  Lots of mages and locks, no priests.

As far as my server goes, Horde has almost no newbs leveling anymore, so I go it solo almost 100% of the time. 

Those two things are probably related. A self sustaining circle of suck.  :-(


As to selling things as a noob, I found my issue was the horde AH's could never keep up with my supply. People only seem to want to buy so many Red Linen Shirts :(

I see many Barbie healadins in AV.  Don't assume that healer=priest anymore.

The tank shortage is because all the warriors are running around mortal striking with their big two handers.

[Selby]

I see many Barbie healadins in AV.  Don't assume that healer=priest anymore.

Oh I don't ;-)  My first character I ever played was a paladin back after release (healing and mail\plate? awesome!).  That class was a pile of suck then.  No ranged pulling abilities, just sit there and beat on the monster and toss a heal as they die slowly.  It was painful when playing against healing monsters as it came down to who had the bigger mana pool.  I hear things have changed in 2 years though.

My priest still gets bugged to come run instances with people I've never met though, so that's nice.  Never happened once in the entire 1-60 run with my mage or lock.  Druids, Shamans, Paladins, all can do healing well in addition to a Priest.  It all depended on the instance being run and who was actually on.  With Horde, towards the end-game if you are on a server like mine you tend to know who was a good player and who was just a millstone on the party.  Unfortunately when you get douchebags who are healing classes people tend to forgive their fuckups more easily ("I'm going into bearmode because I want to so STFU!").  It's tragic really.  Especially when you only have a handful of people at the endgame who haven't been snatched up by the major raiding guilds and you're still stuck PUGing anything you want to do.

[Oban]

Hmm, trying Destromath for now.  So far, so good...

[ShenMolo]

I've played on Area 52 for the last 6 months on Horde side. It has a very healthy Horde population top to bottom. EST PVE

Lowbie areas are even busy.

[Simond]

Or you could always roll up a prot pally and group your way from 19->70 with no problems at all.  There's a severe shortage of tank/healers, at least on the two servers I play on (Mug'Thol-PvP, Aerie Peak-PvE)

Prot-spec pallies also have the benefit of being insanely good soloers from about L35 upwards - walk into mob camp, aggro all of them, Judgement of Light, Seal of Light, let mobs die on your damage shields while you 'lifetap' your way to victory.

[Koyasha]

That's an even better strategy after 45, when you can have 10 points in Holy and the rest in Protection, then use Seal/Judgement of Wisdom and your immune to pushback (with Concentration Aura) heals.

[Morat20]

Just for the record for broke-ass newbs -- get Auctioneer. I was grinding Darnassus rep with my level 62 (he wanted the white cat mount, he now HAS the white cat mount) which takes you through Darkshore (which is of the Devil) and Astranaar (also of the Devil), and I happened to go to a vendor to sell some junk (I was trying to make up for the fact that I wasn't in Outland earning real money).

Turns out that a lot of the low-level areas (15 to 30ish) the vendors sell the occasional food, enchanting, tailoring, etc recipe that can generally be sold for serious cash on the AH. I made something like 200 gold just by checking the vendors and buying out their "limited quantity" recipes and patterns. I also found a very out of the way fisherman with a nice recipe too. Mostly because rich 70s grinding alts don't mind paying 12 gold for a 10 silver recipe, if they can get it on the AH instead of finding whatever vendor on the other continent has it.

It helped offset two days of running level 14 missions for rep.

So in addition to gathering stuff on the ground, keep an eye on vendor recipes that sell for a LOT more than they cost. 

[ShenMolo]

Lowbie crafting mats sell great now as well. Get mining and you'll have all the cash you need for your mounts. People switching professions with 1000's of gold to spend drop good cash only mats.

[Morat20]

Lowbie crafting mats sell great now as well. Get mining and you'll have all the cash you need for your mounts. People switching professions with 1000's of gold to spend drop good cash only mats.

I mined a ton of copper, tin, silver, and iron while doing the rep grind -- sent it all to my Jewelcrafter, actually. But I've been shocked the few times I've moused over my materials stacks and realized I could sell it for a ton.

(My level 43 enchanter, who is sitting at 90 gold and trying to get a mount, has something like 500 gold in materials. I need to sell some of them.)

[Xanthippe]

Maybe it's just my server, but suddenly low level mats are flooding the market, and I can no longer make money by selling them.  I don't know if someone's levelling up a bunch of farmers or what, but all the lower level minerals, gems and cloth are flooded.