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I feel like there's always going to be input lag in any streaming device, but I haven't tried it on Deck specifically.

Same as the MCU then.

I'm still not sure why Ronan was so strong.

Same as the MCU then.

I finally got a PS Portal. It's a slick device but it's getting refunded. I dislike the layout; the center map button gets replaced by touching the screen. It's a messy function.

More importantly, there's this slightly perceptible input lag that I just can't get past. Along with the constant slight upscale and downscale as the device renders the PS5, the input just doesn't feel natural.

Anyone running PS5 remote play on their steam deck? I keep hearing it's amazing, but this Portal experience has me now very put off.

The Kree in the comics, by the way, are a total mess in story-telling terms--we know a lot about them and yet they seem different every time they pop up. About the only consistent theme is that "we're at the end of our evolution, and the Supreme Intelligence is find a way out of the cul-de-sac". Sometimes the Kree are surpassingly powerful, other times they basically exist to get jobbed by some conquering power--other empires, Ultron, Annihilus, etc.

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Hello dead forum. I miss you.

Anyways, it's taken me 20 years, but I have reached level 60. In Wrath of the Lich King Classic, and I actually started in 2007 I think, but here I am. Level 60. Haven't done a dungeon in 20 levels (I haven't seen another Alliance player in 10 levels). Still got 25 quests to do and a half dozen regions to finish before starting TBC.


I should finish WofLK around 2030.

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The family in the house analogy is because the what happened to Hala is entirely due to the Kree's own Civil War. You can say that Captain Marvel left a power vacuum when she destroyed the Supreme Intelligence, but: a) Carol's conflict with the Supreme Intelligence is caused directly as a result of brainwashing Carol to use as a weapon, thus still being entirely self-inflicted, b) the Kree were in the process of committing genocide on the Skrulls, and were also ready to attack Earth at the end of Captain Marvel when Carol upped her power level and beat them back, and c) were you expecting Carol to somehow organize free and fair democratic elections on Hala after taking out the SI? "Carol didn't stick around and completely reform Kree civilization" seems like a crazy argument to make.

Also you make it sound like Dar-Benn didn't have the plan to steal the resources of other planets until after Carol gets involved again (since you say she becomes a villain after the Skrull peace talks break down), even though she's looking for the quantum bands at the start of the movie. Her plan all along is to do exactly what she ends up doing: kill three other planets to restore the one her own people fucked up. There's never a single point in the movie where this wasn't her plan and she wasn't the villain. And yeah, she probably could have stolen resources from non-inhabited planets, although the fact that it's been so hard to find the Skrulls a new world suggests that maybe there aren't that many. She picked the worlds she went after specifically as revenge against Carol.

So yeah, I stand by my assessment that the fate the befell the Kree was entirely self-inflicted. They torched their own house, put the blame on the most convenient option available, and the used that to justify further atrocities.

The family analogy implies that the Kree civilization is as cohesive as a family is expected to be (you, not burning down their own house) and, given how similar/selfish the Kree seem to be to humans, that's pure fantasy (ref: Poland, Hungry, Turkey, USA, Russia and now, apparently, Germany (? maybe I have that wrong, maybe the far-right in Germany aren't a significant percentage of the population).  It's not a family, it's a civilization.  At least 99% of Kree society had no idea what the SI (i'm lazy) was up to, and were told exactly what the SI had figured they needed to be told to keep them docile and productive.  After that, it was the surviving 1% in the know/near the levers of power hoping to grab it all.  I don't think it was that unreasonable to hope that Carol would show up to stop the most destructive parts of the civil war that she put in motion to keep the 99% of innocent civilians from horrible death.  And it seems like Carol, at least, agrees with me.

Not my intention to imply that stealing air and water weren't the plan.  Dar-Benn's plan was to steal air from that Skrull world.  I feel I need to say again, it's a stupid plan.  Also, there wasn't an ongoing negotiation, or any negotiation.  She flat-out told the Skrull that it was happening, and if they didn't resist, they would be spared (I don't remember any details on how they'd be spared, so she could have been lying about that, but the Skrull seemed to believe her).  That implies to me that at this point of the story, she's just desperate, not evil*.



*went off on a tangent here.  I'm not arguing that she's universally good or good in some abstract way, I'm arguing that she is 'good' in the context of the hapless Kree on Hala.  But also, in a universe where gods actually exist, but they never show up to help mortals... what is good?  It's my biggest struggle with these comics, you've written in gods, but they are pretty uniformly horrible/uncaring, so really what do good and evil really mean?  The comics are written to appeal to our judeo/christian morality that don't make any sense even a thousand years ago.

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All the stuff I typed is just based upon the movie, btw, I never read any of these comics.  And it assumes that the movie doesn't have any false narrative stuff going on.  Also, I'm entirely dispassionate about this conversation.  Pretty sure you are as well, just amusing myself while work is so slow.  I'm as baffled as anyone that I'm putting any thought into this, given that I thought the movie was, sadly, not even 'meh'.  I just happen to pick Dar-Ben's side because I think the only thing that might have saved this movie is if it 1) leaned in on these tough questions, 2) stayed away from these existential-level shit and have fun with a modest-level threat.

Back to my defense of Dar-Ben.

So Cap Marvel destroys the supreme leader of the Kree race, leaving a massive power vacuum, and then fucks off to where ever leaving them to their own devices?  Unlike a family in a house (just horrible false equivalence, I feel like that was a gift from you to me), this is an actual civilization where the "civil" part is as fragile as any civilization and the power vacuum that follows the assassination of the leader of course leads to strife.  Carol is up to her elbows in culpability for the civil war.  To which she is tragically neutral/impassive, allowing the destruction and suffering to spin wildly out of control because... fuck those guys? That seems pretty evil.  At best, maybe she just doesn't give a fuck.  What about the SNAP!  That could be the... no.  I think realistically the snap would have defused the civil war, so by then the damage is done, so Carol dealing with the SNAP aftermath is a non-defense.

What makes Dar-Ben a villain is everything she does after Captain Marvel fucks up the (forced) deal with the Skrulls.  After that, Dar-Ben makes it personal and is just doing the same thing to other folks that was done to her, i.e., fucking up their planets.  Complete villain at that point.  Prior to that, it seems to me that she's fighting for the lives of all the people on that planet.  So yeah, I absolutely up to that point I have to hand it to her, especially if she's like a mid-level Kree just trying to piece things back together.  I'm not arguing that she's a hero, she is forcibly displacing the Skrull.  But I wouldn't paint her a villain, just desperate.

All that ignores that the whole "let's steal air from somewhere else" plan just being pants on head level stupid.  There are no planets with life, but no sentience?  You couldn't open a portal from Hala to one of those (solving the sun, water and air problems simultaneously)?  You couldn't open multiple portals to different Kree worlds?  It's just bad writing.

I think you missed a major opportunity to defend Carol given the whole wiping of memories and mental manipulation the Kree inflicted upon her.  She's definitely got the PTSD defense going for her as a reason for just being completely checked out for what happened on Hala.   I would argue that not continuing to beat the fuck out of Hala/Kree was an act of incredible restraint.  She's the victim here, and I'm outraged at my assertion that the time that she spent healing from the atrocities that the Kree inflicted upon my cilent are viewed as some derliction of duty... a duty, I'm might remind this court, that Ms Danvers takes upon herself voluntarily.  If she's not a hero, I don't know who is.

I'm starting to feel like a got some entertainment out of this movie. 

The family in the house analogy is because the what happened to Hala is entirely due to the Kree's own Civil War. You can say that Captain Marvel left a power vacuum when she destroyed the Supreme Intelligence, but: a) Carol's conflict with the Supreme Intelligence is caused directly as a result of brainwashing Carol to use as a weapon, thus still being entirely self-inflicted, b) the Kree were in the process of committing genocide on the Skrulls, and were also ready to attack Earth at the end of Captain Marvel when Carol upped her power level and beat them back, and c) were you expecting Carol to somehow organize free and fair democratic elections on Hala after taking out the SI? "Carol didn't stick around and completely reform Kree civilization" seems like a crazy argument to make.

Also you make it sound like Dar-Benn didn't have the plan to steal the resources of other planets until after Carol gets involved again (since you say she becomes a villain after the Skrull peace talks break down), even though she's looking for the quantum bands at the start of the movie. Her plan all along is to do exactly what she ends up doing: kill three other planets to restore the one her own people fucked up. There's never a single point in the movie where this wasn't her plan and she wasn't the villain. And yeah, she probably could have stolen resources from non-inhabited planets, although the fact that it's been so hard to find the Skrulls a new world suggests that maybe there aren't that many. She picked the worlds she went after specifically as revenge against Carol.

So yeah, I stand by my assessment that the fate the befell the Kree was entirely self-inflicted. They torched their own house, put the blame on the most convenient option available, and the used that to justify further atrocities.