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 11 
 on: June 24, 2022, 04:52:18 PM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by Threash
This was just goofy MCU fun, nothing special but certainly not bad. I think they could have gone a much more interesting way, and maybe thought about it, when that guy at the start asked if there really was no other way to beat Thanos and then in a different universe they have a statue of Strange after he died stopping him. Of course that actually did not happen, so bleh.

 12 
 on: June 24, 2022, 01:27:36 PM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by Khaldun
Yeah. When you think about it, the major reason for the prequels to exist at all, besides making money, was:

a) the tragedy of the fall of the Republic and the Jedi and the audience's curiosity about how that came to pass
b) the parallel fall of Anakin Skywalker from being a "cunning warrior and a good friend" into being the most sinister and dangerous person in the galaxy--and yet still being redeemable.

I'm not even sure Lucas realized (or realizes even now) that the story he managed to tell about 1) was that the Jedi Order had become too complacent and static, too far from the Force, to realize the danger they were in--and were thus corrupted into becoming weapons in a murky, incoherent war plotted by a Sith and 2) that the Republic had become too bureaucratic, bloated and unresponsive to command the loyalty of its members. And nobody after him really wanted to sharpen or clarify that this was the story they'd actually told.

On b), we all know Lucas screwed the pooch, both with the midichlorians/young Anakin stuff in the first movie and then with the undermotivated, underimagined turn to the Dark Side in the second and third movies.

This probably contributed to the sequels being as bad overall as they were--if the story of the fall of the Jedi and the Republic had been told more sharply, then the story of the rise of something else could have been matched to that more coherently, with the middle movies basically serving as the climax point of the whole saga.

So yes, anything that gets shoehorned into the already fucked-up narrative and thematic structure of the whole thing is going to struggle for coherence and relevance. But even given that, I think this is was a lot weaker than it could have been.

 13 
 on: June 24, 2022, 01:17:36 PM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by Samwise
But that scene was pretty good. They managed to present a character that was 100% Anakin and 100% vader, which they haven't achieved before.

I will give them that, yeah.  It was kind of amazing how badly Ep 3 botched the task of bridging the Anakin and Vader characters, given that "show how Anakin becomes Vader" was literally the entire reason to make that movie at all.  If they'd just done their job maybe this show wouldn't have had to exist.

 14 
 on: June 24, 2022, 11:45:48 AM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by eldaec
Maybe someone else in this thread already pointed it out and I missed it, but I just now realized that Vader's "I killed him" line was there solely to satisfy people who are mad that Obi-Wan lied to Luke ("from a certain point of view") about Vader having killed Anakin.  I guess Vader feeding the line to him ten years previously makes it better.

I mean, sure, it isn't a co-incidence.

But that scene was pretty good. They managed to present a character that was 100% Anakin and 100% vader, which they haven't achieved before.

 15 
 on: June 24, 2022, 11:36:22 AM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by eldaec
In leia's defence, once you get past the decision to use her at all, the actor was good and they used her pretty well.

There were a bunch of times I felt they were writing her as a seven year old not a ten year old. But whether this is set seven or ten years after the prequels makes no real difference.

 16 
 on: June 24, 2022, 11:25:24 AM 
Started by Rasix - Last post by Rasix
I still have too much to play.

 17 
 on: June 24, 2022, 10:13:03 AM 
Started by Rasix - Last post by Mosesandstick
I picked up a couple of games (~2 years old) but the prices were pretty similar to previous sale prices.

 18 
 on: June 24, 2022, 10:03:12 AM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by schild
I wish I'd never seen Incredible hulk

But I'm ok with having seen captain marvel once

Strange 2 is several rungs lower than marvel for me

2Strange2Spurious

Edit: As time goes on i actually get angrier and angrier about strange 2 and I guess that's raising all boats. Marvel is, at this point, very middle of the road for me. I also will not watch it again (outside of 100% speedruns)

 19 
 on: June 24, 2022, 09:47:59 AM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by Samwise
Maybe someone else in this thread already pointed it out and I missed it, but I just now realized that Vader's "I killed him" line was there solely to satisfy people who are mad that Obi-Wan lied to Luke ("from a certain point of view") about Vader having killed Anakin.  I guess Vader feeding the line to him ten years previously makes it better.

 swamp poop

Really the best way to make this show would be to have not made it.  I tried to think of "what would I have had Obi-Wan doing on a show set during this time period" and the answer is "nothing".  Nothing you could have him do makes for a good show while also adding to the overall canon instead of making it stupider.  So I have a little more sympathy for the writers, because they were given an impossible task by people who wanted to sell more toys.

 20 
 on: June 24, 2022, 09:10:55 AM 
Started by Trippy - Last post by Khaldun
Pretty much. I'd rather that Kenobi had been called off-world for something else urgent. Maybe Bail Organa sends him a genuinely secure, secret message that he's worried that one of the Inquisitors is asking questions that imply a knowledge of Anakin's children. After all, it's not just Yoda and Obi-Wan who were in that room where the twins were born, and at least a few other people saw Padme come onto the medical ship still alive. So maybe it's a doctor or a medical droid or something that made the mistake of partially spilling the beans to someone and Third Sister has picked up on it; since she knows Vader is Anakin, she's thinking this is leverage that she can use to set him up for a kill. So then you get something that's a bit more tense--Obi-Wan is racing to find the doctor/droid before the Inquisitor while trying not to get killed himself. Maybe he does and the doctor/droid gets killed or destroyed in the process of the chase or some kind of fight, and now Obi-Wan himself is desperately on the run as per the series. Then you can do a lot of the same story beats without the cute-kid elements. The only scene where I thought Leia really worked was the one where Obi-Wan comes close to telling her about her real mom, in the Seth Molerogan's truck.

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