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Title: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Trippy on February 20, 2007, 12:40:29 AM
From Variety: Eckhart set as Two-Face (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117959570.html?categoryid=1350&cs=1)

Actor joins 'Dark Knight' cast
By DAVE MCNARY
Aaron Eckhart has joined the cast of Warner Bros.' "The Dark Knight" as Harvey Dent aka Two Face, a District Attorney-turned-scarred villain.

Previously announced cast for the sixth Batpic include Heath Ledger as the Joker with Christian Bale back as the Caped Crusader and Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman reprising their roles from "Batman Begins."

Christopher Nolan's returning to the director's chair to helm a script by his brother Jonah Nolan, based on a story by Christopher Nolan and David Goyer. "The Dark Knight" will be produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Christopher Nolan.

Eckhart received noms for Golden Globe and Spirit Awards for "Thank You For Smoking." He's starring opposite Catherine Zeta-Jones in the "No Reservations," the American remake of the 2001 German feature "Mostly Martha."Eckhart's repped by CAA and Hirsch, Wallerstein, Hayum, Matlof & Fishman.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 12:48:06 AM
Never seen Eckhart play a character like this. Guess it's wait and see, right?


Was hoping it would have been someone like Josh Lucas. He can be lawyer like, as well as play a demented fuck.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 20, 2007, 01:09:38 AM
With Two-Face, it doesn't matter what he actually looks like, IMO.  As long as he's played well.  I think the important thing about TF is to portray conflicted.  And to watch and watch and rewatch the Tommy-Lee Jones Version and, should you find yourself playing it that way, kill yourself.

I'm really starting to worry about Heath Ledger.  At first I was ok with it, but I'm starting to get real nervous.



EDIT

And, now I think about it, TWO villians ??  Are we sure that's the road we want to go down here ?  I'm really worried.  Hold me.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Mazakiel on February 20, 2007, 07:21:53 AM
Two villains in the first one (Ras and Scarecrow) didn't detract from the movie.  Now that we're not having to deal with setting up the backstory, it should work pretty well.  Now, if they keep Scarecrow on top of adding in Joker and Two-Face, things could become a bit crowded.  As awesome as Batman Begins was, though, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt storywise. 


I will agree on the Heath Ledger part though.  I hope he can pull it off.  He's never really impressed me in any movie I've seen, he's just always struck me as....adequate at best, I suppose.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 20, 2007, 07:26:32 AM
I think two Villians worked well in Begins due to the subservient role that one of them played.  It wasn't two BIG Batman villians, but more a subtle Duo thing that worked so well.  Also, he never really took them on together, which helped.

I dunno.  I just thought they'd learned the lesson of two of the big villians in the same piece.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
Maybe he'll just be Harvey Dent in this movie.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 20, 2007, 08:42:48 AM
Doubtful there'd be a press release, then, especially one specifically calling him Two-Face.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: HaemishM on February 20, 2007, 09:06:02 AM
Never seen Eckhart play a character like this. Guess it's wait and see, right?

Maybe not, but if you've seen Thank You For Smoking, you know the guy has serious acting chops. This is a great choice, IMO, better than Heath Ledger. I think they'll both pull it off well, and Nolan has my confidence. I think he can handle two big villains well enough to not repeat the Mr. Freeze/Poison Ivy travesty.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 09:06:32 AM
Doubtful there'd be a press release, then, especially one specifically calling him Two-Face.

I just mean they could extend his role across two movies. Pre Two Face Harvey is interesting enough for that. That would actually make it all the more tragic.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: tazelbain on February 20, 2007, 02:10:29 PM

Maybe not, but if you've seen Thank You For Smoking, you know the guy has serious acting chops. This is a great choice, IMO, better than Heath Ledger. I think they'll both pull it off well, and Nolan has my confidence. I think he can handle two big villains well enough to not repeat the Mr. Freeze/Poison Ivy travesty.
Don't forget Bane.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: HaemishM on February 20, 2007, 02:26:04 PM
I try really really hard to forget Bane in both comic and movie form.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 04:22:11 PM
On the positive side, Poison Ivy is the hottest Uma Thurman has ever been. I can still watch the movie for that.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 20, 2007, 05:53:11 PM
You're wrong on both counts.

1) Uma Thurman was not hot as Poison Ivy (pre-costume, maybe).  But dual beehives is not sexy.  She was like Peg Bundy times two.
2) You cannot still watch that movie for that or any other reason.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Big Gulp on February 20, 2007, 06:15:30 PM
On the positive side, Poison Ivy is the hottest Uma Thurman has ever been. I can still watch the movie for that.

Exhibit A) Dangerous Liaisons

Exhibit B) The Adventures of Baron Munchausen

The state rests it's case.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 07:19:32 PM
No, nothing can top a hot redhead.

[EDIT] Oh wait, she was a redhead in Munchausen too.  :-P

Oh well, Dangerous Liasons is not even close (don't mention the nude scene, that's cheating):

(http://www.movieactors.com/photos/danerous139.jpeg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/uma_poison_ivy.jpg)


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 20, 2007, 07:41:32 PM
(http://www.polarblairsden.com/filmfatalespoisonivy01.jpg) (http://home.nordnet.fr/~fmasschelein/jpg/peg.jpg)

Stray, I like you.  But you are dead wrong and offending my religion with these continued protests.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 09:11:58 PM
I'm confused. Dead wrong about what? Uma looks hot. Peg Bundy is a MILF.


* The truth is, I like Redheads because they hate me. For some reason, I piss them all off. Even the fake ones.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Velorath on February 20, 2007, 09:18:28 PM
No, nothing can top a hot redhead.

I might agree (depending on my mood) if we were talking naturally red hair.  I fail to see how a terrible red wig somehow qualifies though.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 09:24:36 PM
She was hot in that movie. Just leave it at that.

And YES, the movie was a piece of shit. Blah, blah, blah.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Velorath on February 20, 2007, 09:37:45 PM
Dude, she's got plant eyebrows.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
Great. Take Patty Duke, and I'll take Plant Eyebrow girl.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 20, 2007, 09:41:54 PM
I'm confused. Dead wrong about what? Uma looks hot. Peg Bundy is a MILF.

 :mob:


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 09:47:16 PM
Damn straight.  Bring on the mob then :evil:


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Velorath on February 20, 2007, 09:50:36 PM
Great. Take Patty Duke, and I'll take Plant Eyebrow girl.

Don't come crying to me when you cut your dick on the thorn bush.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 20, 2007, 09:51:35 PM
Well, whatever.  Less competition for the attractive women.  :-D


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 10:26:42 PM
Geez, where were you guys when I said I liked boy-ish, short haired girls last week?

If it makes you feel better though, I've also dated an Arizona Cardinals cheerleader (well, before she was one). Among other kinds of women.

Can't help if I prefer a little freakishness though. I just do.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Velorath on February 20, 2007, 10:35:39 PM
Geez, where were you guys when I said I liked boy-ish, short haired girls last week?

Probably mentally substituting the word tomboyish for "boy-ish" and silently agreeing with you.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 20, 2007, 11:12:39 PM
No, not tomboy-ish.

If by tomboy you mean, likes to drink crappy beer, knows more about motorcycles than me, has big soccer calves, and watches a lot of sports, then no. Those just might be the most boring women on earth.

I mean someone like, umm, basically Mick Jagger with tits. Haha. Like this girl:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/KatherineMoennig.jpg)

(that's actually one of the more "girly" pictures of her..but oh well)

They don't necessarily have to be so androgynous though. Short hair is hot anyway you put it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/jeanseberg.jpg)

[EDIT]

ETA on some unfunny asshole coming in and saying we should be talking about Two Face?


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 21, 2007, 12:18:22 AM
What the hell happened in here ?


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 21, 2007, 12:34:10 AM
I don't know...

But now that you mention it, we don't talk about women enough anyways.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Velorath on February 21, 2007, 12:38:01 AM
What the hell happened in here ?


You can only debate the pros and cons of a single movie casting choice for so long.  Derailment was inevitable.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Big Gulp on February 21, 2007, 04:52:18 AM
don't mention the nude scene, that's cheating

Hardly.  Given a choice between a naked Uma at her innocent, corrupted by an older man, 18 year old nubile best and her decked out in green latex with a fright wig and plant eyebrows, you go with the latter.

Seek help.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 21, 2007, 06:04:23 AM
I say Uma looks hot as Poison Ivy, in a Batman thread, and all of the sudden everyone thinks I need an intervention. Hello? You silly motherfuckers. Poison Ivy. Uma Thurman. That's like my boyhood and manhood dreams all rolled into one.

Or is this the Bizarro thread, where, somehow, those two things don't work?


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 21, 2007, 06:11:58 AM
Am I the only man left in creation that doesn't find Uma Attractive at all ?

 :|


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 21, 2007, 06:14:54 AM
No. I have friends who say the same thing.

Same goes for Kate Moss. I don't know anyone who likes her. I think she's hot.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Big Gulp on February 21, 2007, 06:15:25 AM
Am I the only man left in creation that doesn't find Uma Attractive at all ?

 :|

No, I completely understand it now.  She doesn't really trip my trigger any more, but I do remember lusting mightily over her when I was younger.  And if you watch Dangerous Liaisons (or the brief flash she shows in Baron Munchausen) you'd have to agree that she had some incredible tits.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 21, 2007, 07:07:49 AM
No, I completely understand it now.  She doesn't really trip my trigger any more, but I do remember lusting mightily over her when I was younger.

You're going to have to explain this one. What is it that you understand now?

Not that I care, but I'd like to know.

I can understand why some people wouldn't like her. I can't understand how someone could like her once, and then change their mind later. Did you just now discover that she's a little odd looking or what? :)


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Lantyssa on February 21, 2007, 11:40:41 AM
Am I the only man left in creation that doesn't find Uma Attractive at all ?

 :|
I cannot help answer your question, but I can agree with your assessment she is not at all attractive.

But then I never saw the appeal in Britney, Julia Roberts, Kate Moss or a ton of others I've seen being drooled over and touted as the sexiest woman alive.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 21, 2007, 12:52:48 PM
Am I the only man left in creation that doesn't find Uma Attractive at all ?

 :|

I never thought she was hot.

She has some nice boobs, but not nice enough to make up for everything else.

So the answer to your question is "No."

If we're going to talk about women, I could refer you to a number of Suicide Girls to illustrate my taste.

Britney was hot once upon a time.
Julia Roberts wasn't.
Kate Moss, nope.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 22, 2007, 03:14:25 AM
I agree with the Hot Lava, except to say that Britney wasn't 'hot' as such, but she fit that place in a mans mind that wants desperately to fuck a young girl that's totally begging for it.  Sorry to say, but men are hardwired at some level and if you could hear our thoughts in our day to day lives, you'd be totally, totally, totally fucking horrified.

Then she grew up and became just plain, then, as the pressure mounted, she became unbelievably ugly, ugly ugly.



Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 22, 2007, 08:24:15 AM
she fit that place in a mans mind that wants desperately to fuck a young girl that's totally begging for it.

Or the cheerleader.

Or what have you.

She's the same age as me, it wasn't that she was younger, just that she represented (intentionally) all the typical male fantasies pretty much as soon as she hit the scene, and whether or not you're actually interested in that in real life, Ironwood's right in saying there's some part of men that's hardwired to want that.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 22, 2007, 08:49:46 AM
No, I didn't mean she was younger, I meant she was a young girl.  It's all about child-bearing and health and whatnot.

Hardwired.  Lesbians get to choose and be more rational about it.  Men are just looking for Sperm-Urns.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 09:23:27 AM
Fucking hardwired talk. Speak for yourselves guys.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 22, 2007, 09:27:11 AM
Well, we kinda were.  However, any study of Male heterosexual phsychology, mating patterns and desire will tell you broadly the same thing.

Got something against Britney ?  Fair enough.  But don't try to sell me that shite that I can't put a representative sample of what I'm talking about in front of you and your hindbrain won't go 'Boooiiing'.  That's just new age shite.


Edited to add :  it's shite I find particularly disturbing given that one page back and you wanted desperately to fuck a plant.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: HaemishM on February 22, 2007, 09:44:44 AM
Am I the only man left in creation that doesn't find Uma Attractive at all ?

 :|

Young Uma I find attractive. Like really only Munchasen. Later Uma, not hot at all, and getting worse all the time. She looked fucking awful in Kill Bill, and that was before I saw her horrible, nubbly feet.

Peggy Bundy, however, is most definitely a MILF, or was during Married with Children. Hell, even lately on Lost. But Uma? Fuck no.

EDIT: Young Britney was hot in that "I wanted to fuck the cheerleader way." Bald, strung-out mommy Britney? Not even with Stray's dick.

Sperm-Urns. Lolerz.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 09:50:46 AM
Not new age talk. I just prefer women over girls. There can be a physical attraction with girls, sure, but there are whole bunch of factors besides that too, if anything is going to work right. I can barely even listen to young girls anymore, let alone make some effort with them.

Young girls are for when you're a young guy. And to be honest, my theory is that anyone who's overly infatuated with them later on in life didn't get enough when the time was right.

Edited to add :  it's shite I find particularly disturbing given that one page back and you wanted desperately to fuck a plant.

It's just makeup.


Oh wait, is that too serious? Am I not playing along right?  :|


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 10:01:03 AM
Bald, strung-out mommy Britney? Not even with Stray's dick.

Before I take that as an insult, what does that even mean?

That's about the weirdest thing I've read on this site ever (well, besides Harrison, and whatever came out of you know who's mouth...).


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: HaemishM on February 22, 2007, 10:12:39 AM
You've never heard that statement? It means I wouldn't put my own manmeat near her, I wouldn't even do her if I could somehow use someone else's manmeat as a surrogate instrument of whoopy.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 11:19:07 AM
Hmm....

OK. Whatever :-)

But no, I've never heard it before. I think.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 22, 2007, 12:19:31 PM
It's sort of like "I wouldn't touch her with a 12 foot pole."

And you agreed to our point:

Quote
There can be a physical attraction with girls, sure

That's all we're saying.  Not that you want to marry a girl, or even date one.  But there is a part of your brain that sees that and goes,  "Oooh! That looks good!" even if only for a second before your more concious brain decides that she's not for you.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 01:41:55 PM
That's not what I meant. I'm just saying there can be exceptions. I'm saying that pretty is pretty -- the girl in question would still have to be....Attractive. I'm saying "Sure, I'd turn my head at a beauty", young or not.

But being young is not an attractive thing to me in and of itself. I would appreciate the same good looking girl even more if she was 10 years older. I like the look of a woman a little more grown in and at her peak. Which would be somewhere around 25-30. Sometimes older.

[EDIT] And just in case anyone wants to find some way to argue with me about it, don't -- It's just my preference. There is nothing to argue about. So we're not clones. Big fucking deal.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 22, 2007, 01:53:53 PM
Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with someone who states that he prefers his women older and, er, 'boyish'.

I fear you may not be wired the same.  It happens.

Heh.

(Suicide Girls, for example.  I don't get that at all either...)


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Big Gulp on February 22, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
(Suicide Girls, for example.  I don't get that at all either...)

A good friend of mine has damned near fetishized the whole goth girl thing and I just don't get it.  Timid, innocent Christian girls I can corrupt?  Sure, I understand that completely.  Some chick who has been tattooed over every inch of her body (and keep in mind, I actually tattoo people), and looks like disposable biker trim that carries at least 4 varieties of STD?  Not so much.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 02:25:51 PM
I fear you may not be wired the same.  It happens.

Heh.

Maybe I am. So what? It shouldn't be any thing worth laughing about.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Lantyssa on February 22, 2007, 02:46:29 PM
Suicide Girl level is a little extreme for my tastes, for exactly those reasons, but I must admit a weakness for goths, wavers, punks and the alternative crowd in general.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 22, 2007, 02:48:23 PM
Pro Suicide Girls here. Haven't looked there in awhile though.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 22, 2007, 02:53:40 PM
There was a time when the sluttier Brittany was made to look the more I lusted after her. Then she became trailer trash slutty and I wanted to gouge my eyeballs out.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: HaemishM on February 22, 2007, 02:54:32 PM
I never got the whole Suicide Girls thing, but then I'm not a fan of huge tattoos and piercings anyway.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 23, 2007, 11:00:19 AM
Not a big fan of tattoos and piercings either.

But a few are alright.

And the Suicide Girls have a lot of variety.  Some on that site don't have any piercings or tattoos, but they carry a different sensibility than a lot of girls and that's what gets me.  But no, the ones with more than a couple piercings and more than a couple tattoos I'm not a big fan of either.  You pick your favorites.  After all, there are hundreds of them.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 23, 2007, 11:08:40 AM
Sleeve tatoos are fugly. Or pretty much anything big like them. Besides that, I don't mind.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: HaemishM on February 23, 2007, 11:19:05 AM
I hate the tramp stamp tribal above the crack of the ass tattoos.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Lantyssa on February 23, 2007, 12:50:35 PM
Some on that site don't have any piercings or tattoos, but they carry a different sensibility than a lot of girls and that's what gets me.
Like revealing their naughty bits? :evil:


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 23, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
I hate the tramp stamp tribal above the crack of the ass tattoos.

That is one of the few tatoos I actually like. I don't know why. Beyond that and cute little dainty ankle tatoos or something and the woman starts moving into biker chick territory IMO.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Furiously on February 23, 2007, 01:47:26 PM
Why not just put a bulls-eye on their back in that spot that says <Aim Here>?

And as for kate moss, Never thought she was great until I saw her as aid Marion. Woof!

Uma - no idea what the attractiion people have is.

Redheads... I was once advised of three things no to discuss if you wanted someone to remain your friend. Politics, religion and redheads.  That being said, a redhead with curly hair....


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 24, 2007, 09:18:37 AM
Some on that site don't have any piercings or tattoos, but they carry a different sensibility than a lot of girls and that's what gets me.
Like revealing their naughty bits? :evil:

That does help.

So here's a question, since we're clearly done discussing Batman:
How do the ladies feel about tattoos on guys?


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 24, 2007, 10:10:40 AM
I think there's just one lady reading this thread. And if I'm not mistaken, she likes ladies too  :-)

Anyways, the obvious answer is, it takes all types. I know women who like them, I know some who hate the hell out of them, and I know some who have a thing for old bald guys with mustaches.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Ironwood on February 24, 2007, 10:27:50 AM
I think there's just one lady reading this thread. And if I'm not mistaken, she likes ladies too  :-)

Lol.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Llava on February 24, 2007, 10:28:58 AM
True true.

It's pretty much a lock that I'm going to get two sometime this year.  I just haven't made my final decision on what I want them to include.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: stray on February 24, 2007, 10:32:43 AM
I had a tatoo, but got it removed a long time ago. Still have a small one on my upper arm though (that's not worth removing).

Always liked the idea, and considered getting more --- But I'm just too fickle. Even if it was my own artwork, I'd end up getting tired of it.


Title: Re: Aaron Eckhart to play Two-Face
Post by: Lantyssa on February 24, 2007, 02:36:38 PM
I like some tattoos.  It probably won't do much for me, and I'll avoid the Bruce-level of detail about what does it for me in others, but they can be cool.  There are some neat designs you're just not likely to see on a woman, too.

But then I grew up on the fringes of the waver/alternative scene, so tattoos are kind of a normal thing to me.  I consider myself weird because I never got one.