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Title: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: angry.bob on December 13, 2006, 12:39:37 AM FTC says viral marketing and people being paid to provide "opinions" to peers on message boards, chat rooms, myspace, etc. must disclose. About fucking time.
link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/11/AR2006121101389.html?nav=rss_technology%3Cbr%20/%3E) Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: schild on December 13, 2006, 12:45:36 AM It's true. I'm a mole for Agetec.
Did I mention they just announced Disaster Report 2 for america? Raw Damage is the name I think. Too lazy to go to GAF. Fucking buy it, fuckers. ALSO, BUY A WII. BUY A WII. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: stray on December 13, 2006, 12:54:17 AM Raw Danger
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: squirrel on December 13, 2006, 01:21:10 AM I will admit - though I assumed this was common knowledge - that I am an active agent for the establishment of a worldwide administration reporting to rabid, socially dysfunctional urban rodents.
Guilty as charged... Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Tebonas on December 13, 2006, 02:40:01 AM Buy more money!
Now you made me plug my employer as well. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Ironwood on December 13, 2006, 02:40:50 AM Ah. Time to confess I'm a rep for the Scottish Tourist Board.
We're trying to keep you fuckers away. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Azazel on December 13, 2006, 03:07:25 AM It's well known that Schild is a mole for the PSP. Also, the XBox 360.
Basically, anything shiney and consolish. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: stray on December 13, 2006, 03:09:12 AM He pimped the NGE as well.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: schild on December 13, 2006, 03:10:15 AM Motherfuckers, I just bought a $100 keyboard and I recently spent $150 on gaming headphones. You all will pipe the hell down. I do not discriminate. I just speak truth. And PCs are a pain in the ass. Saying otherwise is a damn dirty lie.
Stray, collision detection. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: squirrel on December 13, 2006, 03:20:54 AM Ah. Time to confess I'm a rep for the Scottish Tourist Board. We're trying to keep you fuckers away. Aside from those of us who are fans of the damn fine single malts you folks produce I can't really see how that's a tough job, only whisky drinkers and golfers would be interested and how do you weed them out from the locals? Seems on par with the Welsh Society for the Prevention of Sunburns. Of which I'm admittedly a member. There's 7 of us. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Fabricated on December 13, 2006, 03:33:26 AM SMOOOOOKE.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: NiX on December 13, 2006, 04:58:50 AM I'm a mole for the Marijuana Growers of Canada. They pay me in weed. Needless to say, I don't do my job well.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Tebonas on December 13, 2006, 05:07:24 AM Its ok, they smoke it themself and don't care about your success rate either.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: NiX on December 13, 2006, 05:37:06 AM Fucking awesome! I have this craving for KFC Popcorn Chicken.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Signe on December 13, 2006, 06:34:10 AM I am brought to you by the colour pink.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Sky on December 13, 2006, 07:17:53 AM From the article: "...such as a post on a Web blog"
Or a web log. The word blog makes me itchy to smash. And that misuse is right up there with HDD drive. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Sky on December 13, 2006, 07:18:23 AM I am brought to you by the colour pink. Technically we are all brought by the color pink.Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: tazelbain on December 13, 2006, 07:23:32 AM I am a meber of a secret organisation dedicated to fill the internet with bad spelling are worse grammar.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: schild on December 13, 2006, 07:42:56 AM Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: HaemishM on December 13, 2006, 08:10:10 AM It's about fucking time the FTC showed some balls about the right sort of thing. I have no problem with people pimping products they use, or pimping products they are paid to pimp. But I want to know if you get paid to pimp, especially on message boards.
I am paid to pimp RAGE!(TM) brand cologne. It smells like horse piss and failed dreams. I'm soaking in it right now. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Megrim on December 13, 2006, 09:23:43 AM I think i was busted before, but i must admit it again: i am a mole for the Russians. Pay no attention to Australia. None. Koalas are cute. CUTE!
playeveplayeveplayeveplayeveplayeveplayeveplayeveplayeveplayeve Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Yegolev on December 13, 2006, 10:29:47 AM ALSO, BUY A WII. BUY A WII. No one would buy you being a Nintendo mole. Ironwood, your plan works great for people like me that love Scotland for the ability to walk outside and HEAR NOTHING and SEE NO PEOPLE. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: sinij on December 13, 2006, 10:48:17 AM Here how you tell a plant:
1) sub 50 posts 2) defends or promotes specific product but does not generalize 3) majority of 50 posts are 'me too'/'I like it' on WoW or equally generic topics Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Azazel on December 13, 2006, 11:50:20 AM I think i was busted before, but i must admit it again: i am a mole for the Russians. you mean russianwives.com? or russianbrides.com? Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Nonentity on December 13, 2006, 12:24:23 PM Here how you tell a plant: 1) sub 50 posts 2) defends or promotes specific product but does not generalize 3) majority of 50 posts are 'me too'/'I like it' on WoW or equally generic topics lol me too ... :hello_kitty_2: Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Ironwood on December 13, 2006, 12:38:02 PM Ok, that made me laugh.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: geldonyetich on December 13, 2006, 12:45:51 PM I confess, I was never a mole, just overopinionated and with a tendancy to make unlikely predictions about everything gaming.
Also, World of Warcraft wasn't really successful - most of the players were made out of cardboard. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Kitsune on December 13, 2006, 12:59:30 PM The bad moles are the easy to spot ones, with under a hundred (or worse, just one) posts that are obviously shilling for someone. Like one guy on one of the gadget blogs, I think it was Gizmodo, posted a comment on a log about the Zune that he was going to buy one for every member of his family, he loved them so much. And this was before the Zune was even released.
Kinda stupidly obvious. But I read another article, Confessions of an Online Guerilla Marketer (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/62/4), describing a rather more competent mole at work. Can't assume that they're all idiots. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Strazos on December 13, 2006, 01:00:53 PM Believe it or not, I'm a mole for BioWare. keke
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: McCow on December 13, 2006, 01:11:23 PM Here how you tell a plant: 1) sub 50 posts 2) defends or promotes specific product but does not generalize 3) majority of 50 posts are 'me too'/'I like it' on WoW or equally generic topics lol me too ... :hello_kitty_2: I like it! ... Was the ! a bit much? I don't want to sound over enthusiastic. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Sky on December 13, 2006, 01:49:07 PM Wait. We could get paid for this shit?
Damn. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: naum on December 13, 2006, 02:04:28 PM My favorite, to date...
Quote Last weekend our family had a get together for my aunt and uncle's 40th anniversary. Anyway, I brought my 360 with to play some games with my nephews. Turns out both of my nephews that showed up already had 360s, and one of them even brought theirs with, too. So we went downstairs to hook them up, when my uncle said "don't bother, I already got my 360 hooked up to the big screen". I was floored. My uncle is 62 years old! Just then my other uncle (the 62 year olds brother) said "What? I didn't know you had a 360! We could have been playing Gears of War coop!" Now I couldn't believe my ears. Just then our family priest showed up at the door, he normally stops by for big events like this. Well, under his arm he had a 360. He had just bought it and didn't want to leave it out in the cold. All of us who were just talking about 360 were shocked and we all just started laughing, including our priest. While we were laughing we heard a big sound, like boxes falling over. My aunt had opened a closet where no fewer than two dozen Xbox 360s tumbled out all over the floor. She looked embarrased, then explained she had bought them for all the memebers of her bridge club. They were tired of playing bridge and heard about how you could play Uno online with 360. She was worried my uncle would be mad for spending so much money. Luckily he wasn't mad at all, he said 'No way, I love Xbox 360!'. Then we all laughed for a good half hour. Yeah, I'd say 360 is really picking up some steam. forum.teambox.com/... (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showpost.php?s=9fe7875c2b23cf9fa3750d2241073f0e&p=8515384&postcount=42) Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: sinij on December 13, 2006, 02:42:18 PM But I read another article, Confessions of an Online Guerilla Marketer (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/62/4), describing a rather more competent mole at work. Can't assume that they're all idiots. I read this article and don't believe it. It would take too much effort to get that sort of in-depth involvement just for sake of selling few extra copies of 'the product'. Plants need to streamline process in order to succeed - so biased reviews will be cross-posted and easy to track with some google-foo and rest, 'the filler' will be brief nonsense someone could type up on any topic in under a minute. Fortunately for us it looks like FTC will soon do something (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/11/AR2006121101389.html?nav=rss_technology)about it. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Triforcer on December 13, 2006, 03:09:21 PM I'm a mole for the Wii, and also for the Democrats (by inducing rage to stimulate Dem turnout). My elaborately constructed persona is a lie, I'm actually a San Franciso Green Party member on Obama's staff.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Jain Zar on December 13, 2006, 04:08:24 PM I want to be a mole for Origin Systems, but EA bought them, and did naughty things to them and made their soul go cold.. so... cold... :cry:
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Krakrok on December 13, 2006, 05:15:09 PM Here how you tell a plant: 1) sub 50 posts 2) defends or promotes specific product but does not generalize 3) majority of 50 posts are 'me too'/'I like it' on WoW or equally generic topics Except that is the old way. The new old way is to go to the heavy existing users and pay them to slip stuff in. This is happening with Digg already. In the adult industry people take it a step farther and just sell their sigs out as banner space to the highest bidder. There is also a blog advertising company where you can pay $X dollars per blog post (usually between $1 and $10) about your product/service/whatever. Disclosure is optional. Everything that is old is new again! It's not like all the dead search engines like Altavista didn't use to put paid search results at the top above real results and not tell you about it. Edit: Where's the FTC whining about product placement in TV shows? Yeah I thought so, FTC, you fucks. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Megrim on December 13, 2006, 07:28:38 PM I think i was busted before, but i must admit it again: i am a mole for the Russians. you mean russianwives.com? or russianbrides.com? It's, inconsequential really. All money, all into same pocket. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Kail on December 13, 2006, 07:43:14 PM Moles fucking piss me off. That's like missing the whole point of the internet, where you can just hang out and be cool without having big corporations bother you, man. Am I right? It's so irritating, it almost makes me want to put down this delcious Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper® (http://www.drpepper.com/text/dietcv.aspx), the great new taste that's taking the nation by storm, to write some letters of complaint to a congressman or something.
Also, didn't see this mentioned anywhere here (snagged it off Penny-Arcade), but, uh, oops... (http://www.alliwantforxmasisapsp.com/blog/default.aspx) Yet another brilliant PSP campaign from Sony. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: geldonyetich on December 13, 2006, 07:45:27 PM Once one becomes educated on the ways of the net to the point they realize that game impressions are heavily subjective, the viability of moles becomes mute. If 5 people say a game is good while 500 people are saying a game sucks, I'm going to say that I might not like the game, but those 500 people may have different tastes in games than me.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: geldonyetich on December 13, 2006, 07:45:59 PM becomes mute. moot, too.Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Strazos on December 13, 2006, 07:59:40 PM That blog sucks. They used srsly instead of seriously. Fucktards.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: squirrel on December 13, 2006, 09:07:24 PM Edit: Where's the FTC whining about product placement in TV shows? Yeah I thought so, FTC, you fucks. Yeah, because blatant obviously paid for product placement in crappy commercial TV is so deceiving. Just like that shill thing. Er. Not. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Megrim on December 13, 2006, 09:34:20 PM Oh don't youu worry. I'll be buying me a mink coat this winter.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: KapcomS on December 14, 2006, 04:20:42 AM Here how you tell a plant: 1) sub 50 posts 2) defends or promotes specific product but does not generalize 3) majority of 50 posts are 'me too'/'I like it' on WoW or equally generic topics I'm not a plant, I just hate stupid people. Now buy a DS before I fashion a hat out of your kidneys. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Ironwood on December 14, 2006, 06:01:59 AM I admire honesty.
So are you seriously telling me that, as a member of the top ten posters here, I could get some cash just for annoying the fuck out of everyone with my 'likes' ? Schild, say it ain't so. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2006, 10:42:04 AM I think i was busted before, but i must admit it again: i am a mole for the Russians. you mean russianwives.com? or russianbrides.com? It's, inconsequential really. All money, all into same pocket. The Russian Mob? Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Daeven on December 14, 2006, 11:43:52 AM Tzar Putin's Cyborg Clone army.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Bunk on December 14, 2006, 12:16:01 PM I could be a mole, I do work for a software company. We don't make games though, and have a company policy against posting about our products at all.
I'll just keep pimpin Canadian beer. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: HaemishM on December 14, 2006, 12:28:50 PM I admire honesty. So are you seriously telling me that, as a member of the top ten posters here, I could get some cash just for annoying the fuck out of everyone with my 'likes' ? Schild, say it ain't so. If one could do that, I'd be sitting on a pile of fucking twentys caressing my lily-white ass right now. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Krakrok on December 14, 2006, 06:40:08 PM Yeah, because blatant obviously paid for product placement in crappy commercial TV is so deceiving. Just like that shill thing. Er. Not. How about you define how they're different and we'll go from there (and don't try to play the trust card.. people trust their TV). Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: sinij on December 14, 2006, 08:00:04 PM One is based on pretending to be independent, unbiased reviewer and another is clearly promoting your product.
Let's say I'm trying to sell you SirBruce posts. If I'm a mole I'd proceed something like "I enjoyed every single post by SirBruce, regardless of how controversial it is, leaving me at the edge of the seat waiting for new dose of excitement. I can't recommend enough reading his posts." If I was writing an add for SirBruce post I'd go something like "Get your new shocking dose of SirBruce posting, now with 50% more furry and 1.5 more inches of cock in every post!". I hope you can tell the difference. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Krakrok on December 14, 2006, 08:16:41 PM One is based on pretending to be independent, unbiased reviewer and another is clearly promoting your product. Your example is not product placement. That is straight advertising. This is product placement (http://www.entertainmentmediaworks.com/). Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: sinij on December 14, 2006, 08:26:32 PM You are technically right, to get 100% correct comparison to product placement I had to include SirBruce's post in the body of my original post instead of summarizing it.
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: UnSub on December 14, 2006, 11:17:15 PM I am not currently a mole, but would be willing to accept money in order to learn.
-->THIS SPACE FOR RENT<-- Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: CmdrSlack on December 15, 2006, 12:24:12 PM You are technically right, to get 100% correct comparison to product placement I had to include SirBruce's post in the body of my original post instead of summarizing it. Learning to spell "ad" would help too. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Sky on December 15, 2006, 12:38:46 PM Is there a *snigger* smiley?
Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: squirrel on December 15, 2006, 01:42:54 PM Yeah, because blatant obviously paid for product placement in crappy commercial TV is so deceiving. Just like that shill thing. Er. Not. How about you define how they're different and we'll go from there (and don't try to play the trust card.. people trust their TV). Shill - deceives the consumer by pretending to be an objective consumer providing positive feedback or a positive value judgment on a product which is often false. ("Hi guys! I just tried game x and it's awesome!! Me and my brother played all night long") Placement - no deception as television/film has never claimed to be impartial (except obviously news etc.) and no value judgement is being articulated. That's left for the consumer to do. ("Gee I think James Bond is really cool and since I saw him drink Smirnoff Vodka it must be a great product") Honestly they're about as different as two forms of marketing can get. Title: Re: Attention moles, fess up. Post by: Yegolev on December 15, 2006, 11:16:18 PM That right there is some good comedy. |