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Title: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 03, 2006, 10:40:28 PM
The domain name www.shadowrun.com is redirecting people to a FASA Studio splash page (http://www.fasastudio.com/portal.htm) that looks like this (shrunk down):

(http://www.pandadesigns.com/games/fasastudio_splash_450.jpg)



Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 03, 2006, 10:43:04 PM
Yeah, but it's a shooter though, right?  :|


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 03, 2006, 10:45:09 PM
Yes, that's what the various sites reporting this are saying.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: schild on May 03, 2006, 10:55:09 PM
And it looks like an xbox title, not a 360 one. Blurgle.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Yegolev on May 04, 2006, 08:52:29 AM
So close to a "giggity" there.  I only played first ed. Shadworun, but it was loads of fun.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 04, 2006, 08:56:41 AM
So close to a "giggity" there.  I only played first ed. Shadworun, but it was loads of fun.

But this one will probably just be another shallow shooter (look what happened to 40k titles or Fallout). One made by Microsoft at that.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 04, 2006, 10:03:17 AM
Damn. My Shadowrun inner fanboy nearly messed his pants.

Maybe this will be a giant success and lead to a RPG? I can hope...


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Lt.Dan on May 08, 2006, 07:08:09 AM
Hopefully they'll fix the PnP mechanics. 


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: MrHat on May 08, 2006, 08:52:39 AM
From Firing Squad: (http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=10165)

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E3 2006: Shadowrun Game Confirmed For PC

We have arrived in Los Angeles and just finished making a quickie tour of the downtown convention center as preparations are still underway for getting it ready for the exhibit halls to open for E3 this Wednesday. Just inside the lobby of the South Hall were signs attached to support beams for several games that will be on display at Microsoft's Games for Windows exhibit and one of them was none other than for Shadowrun, the long rumored adaptation of the cyberpunk pen-and-paper RPG. Since it's attached to the Games For Windows exhibit we have to assume it's coming for the PC (some rumors of a Shadowrun game had it as an Xbox 360 only title). We will be posting up some pictures we took outside and inside the LA Convention Center shortly.

Since some of you are interested.

I don't even know what a Shadowrun is.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 08, 2006, 08:54:33 AM
I don't even know what a Shadowrun is.

Cyberpunk with elves.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Yegolev on May 08, 2006, 08:57:20 AM
I don't even know what a Shadowrun is.

Cyberpunk with elves.

It's a lot cooler than it sounds.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 08, 2006, 09:10:59 AM
Cyberpunk with elves, orcs, dwarves, humans, AND magic then?  :wink:


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 08, 2006, 11:30:46 AM
Don't forget giant handfuls of 6 sided dice. Rolling damage on a big spell/shot was pure joy.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Lt.Dan on May 08, 2006, 01:12:33 PM
If I wanted to roll gobs of six-sided dice, I'd play Champions :D Punching enemies through walls and sucking up rocket launcher shots to the chest.  Now that's gameplay.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 08, 2006, 01:20:55 PM
Knockback ftw! That is one thing that CoH totally missed the boat on IMHO.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Yegolev on May 08, 2006, 02:03:41 PM
Don't forget trolls.  Big, brainless trolls that could carry gunnery normally only mounted to vehicles.  I loved playing big and stupid.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Velorath on May 09, 2006, 01:15:36 PM
Apparently we're looking at a Jan 2007 release (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706226p1.html).

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Just now at the Microsoft Press Conference at the Electronic Entertainment Expo it was revealed that Shadowrun will launch with Windows new operating system Vista in January 2007.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Murgos on May 09, 2006, 01:26:13 PM
It will come out for the Vista launch?  Hah, is that like saying "Don't hold your breath?"  or "Yes, the game is under development.  Really."


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Yegolev on May 09, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
"In my country, OS crashes game!"


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: MrHat on May 09, 2006, 07:36:25 PM
(http://www.e3insider.com/_media/?type=image&format=fullSize&source=gp_screenshot_9.jpg)

From E3Insider.com (http://www.e3insider.com/images/?type=screenpax&articleID=GN30SB785E)


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Velorath on May 09, 2006, 11:12:51 PM
Looking at those screenshots I'm a little disappointed that they didn't go with a more urban setting (or at the very least they just haven't shown off any screenshots of anything in an urban setting).  These screenshots just did not make me think of Shadowrun.  Not seeing much in the way of non-humans or any sort of visible cyberware either.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Lantyssa on May 10, 2006, 08:46:01 AM
Given one of the side's dress and the style of decor, I would say that is all in an Aztechnology building.  Hopefully we'll get some other scenery and metahumans soon.

(I do wish this was more than a shooter, but maybe they'll turn this into a franchise and we can get the RPG one day.)


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: koboshi on May 10, 2006, 04:27:43 PM
  After a brief perusal of the now online shadowrun.com I have to ask where are the FUCKING SHADOWRUNS!!!  I wanted to steal corporate data and prototypes, assassinate gang leaders, and get jumped in the middle of a crowded street, and get paid not to care what the backstory is.  between the glowing trees, the glowing fetish, and the glowing ambient light there aren't even any shadows WTF.  No shadows!  No runs!  God damn MS.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Velorath on May 10, 2006, 05:59:28 PM
IGN has a trailer (http://media.pc.ign.com/media/827/827006/vid_1497339.html).

Maybe the combat will be fun, but this just really doesn't seem like a Shadowrun game.  Certainly this isn't the kind of storyline I'd start off with if I wanted to build up a new Shadowrun video game franchise.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Megrim on May 10, 2006, 06:08:15 PM
Having looked at the screenies, i can honestly say that this looks nothing like what i would, um.... expect Shadowrun to look like. It reminds me more of Unreal Tournament more than anything else. And while i realise that there has to be a certain percentage of 'let's show off our not-really-any-more-detailed-than-any-other-game-but-oh-so-shiny-engine', but come on. Where's the urban decay at dammit.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Miasma on May 11, 2006, 06:08:49 AM
I can't fully express how disappointed I am with this, the required profanity has yet to be invented.  That's not shadowrun though.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 11, 2006, 06:13:44 AM
Having looked at the screenies, i can honestly say that this looks nothing like what i would, um.... expect Shadowrun to look like. It reminds me more of Unreal Tournament more than anything else. And while i realise that there has to be a certain percentage of 'let's show off our not-really-any-more-detailed-than-any-other-game-but-oh-so-shiny-engine', but come on. Where's the urban decay at dammit.
There's plenty of urban decay in the cinematic teaser but that thing has, uh, other issues.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Megrim on May 11, 2006, 06:56:56 AM
Ok, just saw the trailer. Why is the tribe of red-pantsed elves taking the blue flag?


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: sarius on May 11, 2006, 07:54:53 AM
I can't fully express how disappointed I am with this, the required profanity has yet to be invented.  That's not shadowrun though.

What exactly is it missing, for you, or anyone else for that matter?  The RPG side of it?


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Velorath on May 11, 2006, 08:09:27 AM
I can't fully express how disappointed I am with this, the required profanity has yet to be invented.  That's not shadowrun though.

What exactly is it missing, for you, or anyone else for that matter?  The RPG side of it?

It doesn't look at all like a Shadowrun game to people who have played the PnP game.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Engels on May 11, 2006, 09:05:07 AM
It looks like Unreal Tournament capture the flag with elves.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: WindupAtheist on May 11, 2006, 11:09:17 AM
Everyone I've talked to about this game has had the exact same reaction.

"Holy shit, new Shadowrun?  Yeah, fucking sweet!  Wait, what?  Oh, it's a shooter.  Oh.  Well, um, whatever.  Maybe they'll make an RPG eventually."

Way to go, Microsoft.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: StGabe on May 12, 2006, 06:14:05 PM
This was really the only shooter at E3 that I was interested in.  It looked pretty fun actually.  The scenario they were running (which is presumably a small subset of the world) had a surprising amount of story for an FPS.  I foreget the details, I'm not a Shadowrun fanboi, but basically it was about two corporations (teams) where one was trying to horde major artifacts of the world and another was trying to steal them / prevent the first corp from controlling them.  It wasn't the sort of thing where you can respawn either.  Once dead you stayed dead although teams seemed to be able to collect a certain allotment of "extra lives" (I think this was a form of handicapping but it wasn't clear).  So the scenario ended in a few minutes either with the artifact successfully captured and stolen or the stealing team eliminated.

The game is somewhat RPG'like.  Choosing your race seems to be pretty important and you start with and earn money to buy enhancements, magic, weapons, etc.  The person I was talking to stressed that the magic was very environmental.  He said that you won't be shooting fireballs or lightning bolts at anyone.  Magic that I saw included growing a tree in the middle of the battlefield, ressurecting a teammate and teleporting through walls.  Enhancements that I saw included a very cool effect for enhanced vision which allowed the player to see opponents through walls and a glider that allowed very efficient gliding through the walls.  There was a lot of jumping off of cliffs, to then teleport through a wall, and glide to a landing.  It was very hard to follow the play at first although I got used to it.

Anyway, I'm not really an FPS fan but I thought the game did look promising.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 15, 2006, 11:38:24 AM
Counter-Strike, with Elves (http://www.gamesfirst.com/?id=1310).


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 15, 2006, 02:07:33 PM
Counter-Strike, with Elves (http://www.gamesfirst.com/?id=1310).



Fuck.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Lantyssa on May 15, 2006, 02:52:02 PM
 :cry:


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Megrim on May 15, 2006, 07:56:40 PM
Counter-Strike, with Elves (http://www.gamesfirst.com/?id=1310).


Well, i'm pretty good at the countar-straek, so i have that going for me i guess. Elf CTF, not so much  :?


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Soln on May 17, 2006, 07:34:04 AM
So how is this different from Tabula Rasa? 

Disappointing trailer.

One of the best things about the PnP Shadowrun was all the backstory.  I still have those modules and handbooks and should dig them out.  Great storylines.  They were written back in the XFiles heyday and they are not only well written, but filled with involved backstories and conspiracies.  Hell, I even read the novels.  I literally read Bug City in one whole night non-stop since I knew very little of the setting and it freaked me out the more I read. 

Great to see another video game missing an opportunity.  Probably will have as much depth as MEO:LOTRO will have.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 17, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
So how is this different from Tabula Rasa? 
They are totally different except for the fact that both are sci-fi-ish. Tabula Rasa is a twitchy persistent world MMORPG with some FPS elements. Shadowrun is a multiplayer (up to 16 players total) FPS Counter-Strike/single flag CTF game. It has the exact same elements as CS -- short rounds (4 minutes), no respawning during a round, and purchasing of "stuff" at the beginning of the round. As for the CTF aspects I'm assuming its more like a single-flag Team Fortress than traditional 3Wave-style two flag CTF where the flag stays where it drops and doesn't "reset" back to its starting position if the opposing team touches it. However given the short rounds the game is very likely going to play like CS where it's mostly about killing the other side than actually capturing the flag. It's also a dual platform Xbox 360/Windows Vista game which means the Xbox 360 players will need some aiming "cheats" to have any chance of competing with the Vista mouse/keyboarders so I don't know how they are going to balance that properly.

Edit: fixed typos.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Soln on May 17, 2006, 12:46:52 PM
I wish it was an MMO.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Morat20 on May 18, 2006, 01:32:54 PM
I wish it was an MMO.

Me too. On the other hand, it has inspired me to purchase the 4th edition rules, pretend they were in place in 2050, and introduce a few friends of mine to the shadows. No theoretically trolls to make the GM scream. :)

This just...sucks. Of all the things you could do, why a FPS? What's the point?


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 18, 2006, 01:41:21 PM
Not just an FPS, but apparently, a CTF only FPS. I can actually understand a single player story and adventure based FPS (with the customary multiplayer elements), but this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Morat20 on May 18, 2006, 01:44:12 PM
Not just an FPS, but apparently, a CTF only FPS. I can actually understand a single player story and adventure based FPS (with the customary multiplayer elements), but this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

You're kidding. That's not just a PvP mode demo? Damn. What an utter waste of the license. When it crashes and burns, because it's got nothing anyone fucking wants (not the SR fans and I suspect not the FPS fans), I suspect the license will be blamed not the game.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 18, 2006, 01:46:11 PM
Well, that's what the article says at least. Maybe they're still working on the storymode or something.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 18, 2006, 03:34:25 PM
There is a single-player mode but that's for training missions and you can also play CTF with bots.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: HaemishM on May 19, 2006, 11:04:57 AM
So it's going to be Battlefield: Shadowrun and only on the 360? What is the fucking point?


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: stray on May 19, 2006, 11:16:03 AM
So it's going to be Battlefield: Shadowrun and only on the 360? What is the fucking point?

Apparently, these guys are saying that Shadowrun is set to be the flagsip shooter for the X-Box. Apparently, they've never heard of Halo.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Yegolev on May 19, 2006, 11:55:26 AM
Maybe they are going to render the sweat beads on players' foreheads.  Instant classic.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Kail on May 19, 2006, 12:11:08 PM
I'm not that troubled that they're not including gobs of backstory.  That's basically what they did with MechAssault ("Okay, you're like, in this army or something, Wolf's Dragoons, only it's not an army, it's like, mercenaries, so I guess someone, I forget who, hired you to like, invade this planet or something OKAY GO DO IT") and that turned out okay, because the gameplay at least kind of resembled the setting.  But teleportation? Hang Gliders?  THESE are the major features of Shadowrun?

How many games have tried to be the next Counterstrike?  And how many have succeeded?  That is not a pretty ratio, there.


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Lemming on May 19, 2006, 02:14:30 PM
Is this the first Shadowrun video game since the SNES and Genesis?


Title: Re: Shadowrun teaser?
Post by: Trippy on May 19, 2006, 03:06:15 PM
According to Moby Games (http://www.mobygames.com/game_group/sheet/gameGroupId,2523/) there was a Sega CD Shadowrun game in 1996 but then that's been it.